Some more thoughts on the recall effort

...if the petitions are sufficient and the recall is held at the same time as the regular November election, there would be only minimal additional cost...the entire city will be voting on district council representatives, so all the BOE would need to do is add another box on the screen for the recall vote.

If it's done as a special election, that's another story entirely.

It is a joke.

Unfortunately, Zoocheetah, there to many people here who wish to piss and moan while not balancing that with some sort of contribution to the community. Good on you for trying to paint Toledo in a positive light to your friends.

Ever hear of EPIC, the program by the Toledo Chamber of Commerce? What your doing is exactly what the program is advocating. Seriously, Mr. Morrissey is making this into a joke. In the Blade, he compared Carty to Hugo Chavez???

...I think that this effort has little chance of success. But I've got to say that Tom's passion against Carty is no different from the 'passions' I've seen exhibited by others in different campaigns.

Yes, he's inexperienced in the political realm...but I'm sure all of us have been in the position of getting involved in something where, when starting out, we had little experience.

Tom is taking advantage of his rights under our city charter. He's read up on the requirements, is informing others of his effort and asking for those who support him to sign the petition.

Whether or not you agree with his POSITION, all of us should be grateful that he cares enough about an issue that he's willing to put himself forward and try to do something about it. It's more than most in this community do.

If you don't support him, that's fine. If you do support him, that's fine too. Your opinion about whether or not this will have a negative impact on the city in general is probably reflective of you opinion of the mayor - and that's okay as well.

How many people on this board have ever circulated a petition for an issue or candidate? How many have ever been involved in a campaign - working festivals/parades/lit drops? How many have ever worked the polls either as a volunteer outside or even as a poll worker?

Say what you will about the issue, but at least appreciate Tom's willingness to do something and to be involved in the process.

We're leaving out a very real issue here. The Mayor will have to champaign for retention. Whom pays for that??? Becasue he's a seated Mayor, consider who actually will bear the brunt of that cost. We're talking about the Finkster here...don't kid yourselves. He is a City employee himself and will have the full cart of city lawyers and media groups at his disposal. He will also have his's party's support and he will have his own sizable funding available. He didn't get elected 3 times being an idiot. He got elected becasue he's shrewed and he's well connected. The end result will be hours of lost time and distraction, not to mention the sizable cash that will be spent to preserve his position. And for what? To prove a point or allow the "process" to go forward?

I have no problem with people exercising their rights as a citizen, but in Tom's case, he's flying by the seat of his ripped pants and quickly becomming the but of his own joke. His failure to be transparent on his supporters, his impish scribe and his lack of forsight and understanding are going to kill the the movement and make ass's out of everyone involved. This whole thing smacks of thoughtless revenge and hatred. In no way do I see this as a positive move for change. I see it as more of what Tom complains about....stupid, liars making decisions that will have a negitive impact on our community.

Again..we're talking about the Mayor...and we know him well. He will do the "Carty" thing all the time..he's nothing if not consistant.

ps...I clearly cannot type too well..laf.