Marcy was on MSNBC's Dan Abrams Live show on talking about the Ohio super delegates and her position. This is the video.
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I read on the Politico that a bunch of Ohio representatives want to play hardball to get their super delegate vote. Do you think this is a good idea or not?
"Ohio Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur, one of the leading protectionists in Congress, said Ohioans have many suggestions on economic and trade issues they hoped the candidates would address."
"“We have a laundry list of measures we think would be effective, some involving tax policy, some involving investment policy, intellectual property incentives to hold investments in this country,” Kaptur said. “I’m hoping superdelegates [who] are uncommitted that have the economy as their major concern will gravitate to our group and use that power to gain additional attention.”"
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Isn't it obvious to most (particularly professionals like Brown & Kaptur) that Obama places more importance on the popular vote and Clinton the super delagates ? Clinton may pander to them, Obama won't. So guess what the outcome will be ? Thanks, Marcy ! As if we need another Clinton in the White House.
On second thought Hil and Obama both publicly ignored the call for a bus tour of Ohio so maybe the Kaptur crew are all irrelevant anyway...
*sigh*
All of us living in Northwest Ohio should be outraged by the conduct of Marcy Kaptur. Instead of playing politics, she should have come out well in advance of the Ohio primary election with her endorsement. She's cast herself as the main opponent of Bill Clinton's NAFTA, yet couldn't find the guts within her to openly oppose the former president's wife who would surely maintain the trade policy that Marcy says has killed thousands of Ohio manufacturing jobs. It's tough to figure out. Maybe Marcy has a thing against black men or maybe a thing for white women.
i think we should get rid of the super delegates and ONLY let the people decide. i get really irritated when i hear them not going with who the people voted for.
That would give too much power to real people. Politicians generally don't like that.
It's easy to be sympathetic to the role of SD's if you look back to the 1982 commission that created them.
The SD's were created after the 1980 debacle that resulted in the Reagan Administration.
First, despite having a lead in delegates, Kennedy challenged Carter all the way to the convention.
Second, after the convention rejected the amendments to the party platform that Kennedy was trying to push through, many of Kennedy's supporters (and he had an awful lot) left the convention, refused to sign on to the party platform, and left a bitter rift in the party second in modern times only to 1968.
Third, the composition of the convention delegates turned more and more liberal from the 1960s on, and the moderate democrats stayed at home. This produced a convention (and, thusly, a platform and nominee) that was not necessarily in sync with the true tenor of the Democratic Party.
So, Geralidine Ferraro was the chairperson of a comission that set out to fix this.
And on balance, it's not a horrible system. Every Democratic Senator and Congressman, President, Veep, and all former presidents and veeps, distingushed party elders, and the state chairpersons in all 50 states get to cast a vote.
These people, (save for the party chairpersons) elected to office, are perhaps the best indications of the current tenor of the Democratic Party. So it makes sense, I think, that they get a vote.
I think the real error was extending it to so many other party positions. It became, essentially, non-cash compensation.
"Sure, as the Special Assistant to the Second Director of Under-Secretary affairs you'll be required to work a lot more hours, and there isn't much of a raise, but you'll be a Super Delegate and you'll have all access to the convention"
Also, I read a quote from somebody that was on that commission (a name I didn't recognize) who said that part of the internal debate centered around the 1980 race.
The scenario is that at the end of the primary season, one candidate had a small but non negotiable lead over another candidate, but was unable to capture a majority . The idea is that SD's would magnify this small lead into a large one.
So, depsite being an Obama True Believer, I have to defend the role of the SD's.
And I think they will do the right thing: They will reinforce, not invalidate, the voice of the people.
And yes, I think that will be Obama.
I can't believe this party hasn't shot itself in the foot yet. That we might actually nominate this guy who could really do wonderful things for our party.
I didn't think it was possible, but now I do.
duh, what was i thinking!!!!!!!! thanks plus plus. :) in the new they hold these super delegates up like they are gold, grrrrrrrrrr.
It's tough to figure out. Maybe Marcy has a thing against black men or maybe a thing for white women.
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The super delegates are not pledged. So like it or not, they're playing by the rules.
...it's as if a million Ed Emerys cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
(Emerys? Emeries? Emerii?)
This is an interesting article on superdelegates