Hillary's Plan to Pay for Health Care - 10% - 15% of YOUR INCOME
Glenn Beck: 19 ought 7 (online transcript)
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March 31, 2008 - 12:32 ET
GLENN: Now what's happening? Last week I told you, was it last week or two weeks ago. I know I said it on television to a couple of guests and they laughed at me. I said, I think we're three years away from being a socialized country, I think it's right around the corner, and I think the first step is what happened with Bear Stearns. I think we are going to start nationalizing this debt. I was laughed at. That's okay.
Other big events from 1907 include Oklahoma being admitted as the 46th state, the first electric ball being dropped in Times Square and the 1907 Romanian Peasants Revolt - our favorite revolt of the year...
On Friday, Stu, did you get the e-mail I sent you? The 1907?
STU: I did get your 1907 e-mail. It was a wonderful addition to my weekend.
GLENN: It was, wasn't it? And you actually, you actually followed through. You actually read up on it.
STU: Yes. You asked me to read it on it and so I did.
GLENN: But I ask you to read a lot of things and so you --
STU: I read a lot of things that you ask. I don't read everything that you ask because I have a life but I read as many things as possible.
GLENN: I just never thought, on the scale of I've got a life, the crash of 1907 I didn't think that you would actually read.
STU: I don't know how that happened but it did.
GLENN: I know. It must have been -- is Lisa gone? So here's the thing. I wrote you in that e-mail, I said, there's a couple of really interesting things that happened in 1907. I said, the next thing would be to have the Fed grab power to be able to strengthen the Fed. So what is the news today? Today the news is the President is going to come out with a proposal that gives power of the Fed over our economy, they have -- and here's how it's -- their model is the Nordic banking system. Norway, Denmark. Stu, the Nordic banking system. What form of economic system does Norway have?
STU: I know they have the weather in common. It's pretty cold.
GLENN: It's cold. No, I mean their economic system.
STU: Oh.
GLENN: Socialism.
STU: Oh, yes, that's it.
GLENN: Socialism. That's weird. Oh, by the way, Hillary Clinton has come out today with the first real detail on how she's going to pay for her healthcare system and what it's going to cost you and me and just want to let you know, I'm trying to track this one down so we can get a little more, a little more detail on this one. But she has promised that it will only cost between 5 and 10% of your income to have her healthcare system. Now, 5% of Stu's income is different than 5% of Dan's income and Dan's is different than 5% of my income. Is that a Progressive scale? Is that a 5 to 10% additional tax on my income? That makes sense. It's the only way you can pay for it. But isn't that socialism? I'm sorry. I just have never heard of the premiums costing us between 5 and 10% of our income until now. That's a good thing that you are releasing that, Hillary Clinton.
So now the Fed will be given control over the banking system entirely. Now, here's why it is important for you to know this. Here's why you need to pay attention to this story and don't worry about, oh, is Hillary Clinton going to be dropping out. Who cares if Hillary Clinton is going to be dropping out. They are stealing our country under our noses and they are doing it all because -- well, they're protecting you. They want to make sure that you're okay. No, they're not. Follow the money.
The international banking system is taking control of our economy. They already have most of the control through the Fed. They are strengthening a system that most Americans think is part of the government. It is not. And here's how it unites all of us. You want to talk about uniting messages? Here's one. How about to the right. May I just say here is a nongovernmental agency that is taking control of the government, taking control of our economy, taking control of our entire economic system and they're being handed it by our politicians. Do you want any more control of our economy or do you believe in the free market system? That's to the right.
To the left. I thought you hated big business. I thought you hated special interests. I thought the whole idea was to get big business out of Washington. You're handing, the biggest business of all, international banking, you're handing economic sovereignty over to business, not the government but to business. Business will tell the President you can pick from these three options. You know what? That's how I ask my kids what they want to eat: Do you want a cheese sandwich or do you want macaroni and cheese. I'm sorry, but the American people aren't 3. We can choose for ourselves. We are smart enough to see other choices other than the two or three the Fed has given us. But it's all about to happen and it's all about to happen in the cover of night and there's nobody in Washington that's willing to stand against it. And it is surprisingly enough happening at just an interesting time, when no one can afford to be seen standing on the sidelines saying, "No, no, we shouldn't do anything. No, this is a solution that will work."
GLENN: So Stu, how was your weekend in '07?
STU: Oh, yeah, I mistakenly started studying 1607 just because it's one of my favorite '07s.
GLENN: It was 1907.
STU: Yeah, once I got there, then the weekend really turned around.
GLENN: When you started reading it, did you notice the similarities? You can look at this all the way down the line. But 1907, did you notice the similarities? Did they kind of jump out at you?
STU: Certainly do. And one of the worst parts about it is just how government reacts to it, which is creating more and more regulation. I mean, when I read a story that's, when Barney Frank is telling me that President Bush's plan is a great step in the right direction, I want to shoot myself.
GLENN: And you know what? All of these politicians will jump on the bandwagon, some of them because they actually believe in the Progressive ideals of nationalizing everything, especially our economy. But others, just because they've got to do something, the American people are demanding that you do something. I did something. Look. I nationalized our banking and monetary system.
(Cont'd. on Glennbeck.com)
If you add up the money we currently spend in insurance premiums (both our paycheck contributions and our employer's contribution), out of pocket medical costs, etc, then 10% of income actually wouldn't be that bad of a deal. BUT... (and there's a BIG but coming...)
There's just no way they could fund a plan like that on only 10% (or even 15%) of our income. It would ultimately end up costing the average American worker far more than that, because the average American worker would have to kick to cover the expenses of people with no income, etc.
Wow - Glenn Beck said it... it must be true. Of course this is the same guy who linked the West Nile virus to Saddam.
Idiot...
Starling,
Studies show that consistent listening to Glenn Beck is potentially dangerous to mental health. Be careful to limit your aural exposure. For optimal health results, support Obama, a progressive, and not Mr. Clinton's other woman, a socialist.
...Glenn Beck and his screamfreaks on the radio are going to admit that the Dems want Socialism as badly as Repubs want Fascism. Both so-called philosophies use government to apply force to control economic systems.
I also wonder when Glenn Beck and fellow, bloated bellowers will admit what the statistics clearly indicate: That the US is #1 in per capita healthcare spending, and about #36 in health care delivery. That means that ALL OTHER SOCIALIZED MEDICINE SYSTEMS are cheaper systems than OURS, and some number of them offer better delivery of care for that money.
Something's got to change in the USA, and if it's not through Socialism, then it sure as FUCK won't be through the continued application of Crony Capitalism. Maybe if Glenn Beck didn't want to see Socialist programs implemented in America, then he shouldn't have acted like one of Bush's Information Ministers during his time in the sun. Beck and fellow, so-called Conservative broadcasters have a LOT to answer for, as they watched Bush commit crimes and expand government all beyond the wildest dreams of Bill Clinton.
(Well, to his credit, at least Beck's not a junkie, like Limbaugh.)
between a junkie and a closet drinker like Beck ?
I am not a fan of Glenn Beck, I rarely listen to him & agree with him even less. This came to me via email & I thought I'd toss it out for thoughts on it. I haven't heard Hillary say this, but then, I don't listen to anything Hillary says anyway, & wasn't sure she didn't say it. I don't doubt it's something she's thinking about though. 10 percent of your income (If it is true) - is a LOT. That would mean if somebody makes $100,000 (in my dreams), they'd be paying $10,000 a year for insurance. That sounds freaking HIGH to me. Our deductable at Daimler is $4,200 & I"m bitching about that.
Whatever you or I think about Beck - just because he's a reformed alcoholic does not mean he's a closet drinker. It's a cheap shot, and an insult to anybody who's recovered, or trying to. It says to them, "It won't matter if you stop drinking (doing dope, etc.) because we will never, ever let you move past it & will lord your mistakes over your head the rest of your life, you loser you."
Read it again, Clarice.
I did not say he was a closet drinker because he is a reformed alcoholic.
I said he was a closet drinker. Period. That is my opinion.
I know the symtoms and manifestations of closet drinking. I worked with reforming alcoholics and drug addicts for years. They are great at fooling people. But after a while, a trained person knows what to look for.
From my observations, he is currently a functional closet drinker.
Give him time.
The bottle always wins if it is not put down completely.
Once a certain point is passed in the onset of alcoholism, controlled drinking is no longer a possibility.
The real costs of health care premiums in the NWO area are about $500/month on average. That means that if you're only paying $200/mo, it's likely your employer is picking up the other $300/mo.
That's $6000/yr. And that doesn't account for the taxes that are used to cover various public programs.
So that alleged 10% of your income sounds about right, as a fraction of a particular source of revenue.
And it all comes from SOMEWHERE, doesn't it?
Of course, HillaryCare would simply turn Americans over to the tender mercies of the insurance companies. Their business model is to extract as high a premium as possible, while denying as many claims as possible. There must be dozens of legal ways they can deny claims.
You might think that under HillaryCare, you must still be given service. That's true, hence this "deny claims" seems like a bunch of BS. But claims will be still be "denied" in various fashions that allows America's health care system to remain structured into at least two tiers: health care for the poor and working classes, and health care for those who can afford to pay for all the high costs of such a service.
I don't know the exact details of what will occur, but under HillaryCare, care providers will quickly arrange themselves into at least two tiers. The first tier is the common provider. We'll see long waits and poor service there, since that's where the poor and working men are supposed to die for their pittance of 10%. The next tier will be more privileged, and will use legal distinctions to keep the poor and workers out of their care facilities, while still collecting public funds for their operation. We have corporations even today that pay no taxes and then collect government grants ... so it'll be something like that.
At any rate, turning America over to the insurance companies is the wrong move. The error in American health care is the PROFIT MOTIVE. Fixing it can't be done by continuing to involve the profit motive. Socialized medicine doesn't involve a concern for profit margin, which is why government is supposed to operate the system from top to bottom.
P.S. The median household in Toledo will see health costs of about $3255 (ref. median income $32546 in the Toledo OH wiki page) under such a system, or about $270/mo. Remember, a person making $100K is VERY well off, and only their huge and VOLUNTARY expenses makes $100K seem like an average salary. For half of Toledo's households, Beck's proposed HillaryCare will be quite a deal -- full coverage for the entire household for at most $270/mo.