Kentucky Arm Of 'Teen Challenge' Gives Up $50,000 Federal Grant

A fundamentalist Christian group that claims to help young people overcome drug and alcohol addiction through Bible study and prayer has given up a federal grant after Americans United for Separation of Church and State protested the funding.

Attorneys with Americans United wrote a letter to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in June, noting that a $50,000 grant to Teen Challenge of Kentucky raised serious constitutional issues. The money was allocated through the Compassion Capital Fund, a special program created as part of President George W. Bush’s “faith-based” initiative.

Teen Challenge, Americans United pointed out, requires participants to take part in prayer, worship, Bible study and other religious activities. Program participants must sign a “Civil Rights Waiver” in which each surrenders the right to “exercis[e] the religion of my choice.”

http://www.au.org/site/News2?abbr=pr&page=NewsArticle&id=10009&JServSess...

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Pink Slip

Teen Challenge . You know up front that it is faith based. But Once you go , you submit to God and His word . Thousands have been transformed thru their ministry . I can introduce you to some here in Toledo.

But I am required to pay for the program. I would feel the same way about the Feds giving money to Narconon.

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"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, and
five times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -Charles
Bukowski

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

As the article states--

"Public funding of such sectarian activities, Americans United asserted, would clearly violate the First Amendment."

Pink Slip

Tax dollars given to a religious group that requires renouncing all other faiths and adopting one over another.

This is an okay use of tax dollars?

:"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion....."

No "law" has been passed, but the President, because he has executive powers and can issue executive orders, has created this funding of faith based groups and by funding groups that clearly promote one faith over another, the U.S. government can be seen to be promoting one religion, all with no laws being created.

All, at a time, of call for smaller government, less government, less spending and so on.

People wouldn't have any qualms about tax dollars being spent with a group of another faith that requires, renouncing all religions and adhere completely to its ideals, say Buddhism?

Their dollars go much further. No one is required to renounce any faith. Inmates can join any program of their choosing- secular , Christian, Islam , etc. This from the Florida dept of Corrections http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/faith/ President Bush wholeheartedly signed the Second Chance Act of 2007 (S. 1060/H.R. 1593) yesterday! Amid congressional leaders and supporters that spanned the political spectrum, the President affirmed that "this bill is going to support the caring men and women who help America's prisoners find renewal and hope." That's because the Second Chance Act authorizes Reentry Mentoring Grants, which will allow community and faith-based groups to recruit, train and match returning inmates with mentors. ...

In the one program cited in the article, there was a requirement to renounce.

As to whether or others also, do or do not, that remains to be documented.

in the article about 'renounce' , I would like to see the whole paragraph in context. I know when I join a church, I agree to follow Jesus and not any others . This is the same when you join Islam or Judaism . Barry Lynn of Americans United tries to get any and all expressions of Christian faith totally eradicated from the public square.

Quite right, when one joins a private organization, one agrees follow and adhere to the rules.

The real test of tolerance comes when funding and support of non-Christian faiths are allowed.

Tax dollars spent and used by a faith based group that requires renouncing one's faith is what the issue is.

A person can attend a rehab program run by a faith based group and not have to renounce ones faith, just like the prison programs listed, if one wants to convert, so be it, or they can say thanks for the help and carry on with their life.

I think it is pretty safe to write, that people would be up in arms if funding was given, to a Muslim group that used the Koran as the center piece of the program.

Using one faith to help others, is the same tact that was used for decades when it came to Indian Boarding Schools here and in Canada and both governments have regretted the support and the churches involved have paid costly law suit settlements and the same types of actions are taking place, once more, government funding to promote religious groups.

"What is TC of Kentucky’s Mission Statement?
It is to evangelize people who have life-controlling problems and initiate the discipleship process to the point where the student can function as a Christian in society applying spiritually motivated biblical principles to relationships in the family, local church, chosen vocation, and the community. Teen Challenge endeavors to help people become mentally sound, emotionally balanced, socially adjusted, physically well, and spiritually alive."

http://www.teenchallengeky.com/htm/faq.htm

"evangelize"

"Evangelism is the Christian practice of proselytization. The intention of most evangelism is to effect eternal salvation to those who do not follow the Christian God; others believe it is to inform others about the Kingdom of God. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelism

http://swampbubbles.com/bubble/us-state-dept-promotes-mosques-america-ca...

Double standards always seem to apply in our government.

No double-standard here. Government shouldn't get involved in religion. Period.

Pink Slip

Is not even remotely close to a Christ centered group, getting our tax dollars to promote and evangelize the members of the group of people they take in.

The stated aim and goal of the group cited, is to convert people, thereby using our tax dollars to promote one religion over another, all with no laws being created.

In teens military boarding schools, the adolescents can get all sorts of facilities such as therapeutic treatment, personality development classes. The counselors of the school help the students and give them best suggestion.

http://www.teenageproblems.net/

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