Be informed! Since it is an election year, people like Pink Slip will twist the truth and present it as fact, in order to score political points. Because it seems worse than ever before, be sure you are informed and check http://factcheck.org to see who is twisting the truth. You can also search the Internet and find other sources too. It is important to be informed in your choices and that includes having good information.
Remember, factcheck does not vet voting histories, they look at advertisements and allegations and see if they have any merits. You can still love or hate the real votes or positions and like Fred suggested below http://opensecrets.org .
I'd like to see a site that lists the candidates positions on the different issues, but without naming names or giving partisan hints one way or another?
Then someone coudl just go down the list and check off the values they agree with. I think there would be some surprises on both sides of the fence once the final tally was added up after you made your decisions
I love FactCheck.org!
http://factcheck.org/
Here is the main page today...
Belittling Palin?
A McCain-Palin TV ad accuses Obama of being "disrespectful" of Palin, but it distorts quotes to make the case.
McCain-Palin Distorts Our Finding
Those attacks on Palin that we debunked didn't come from Obama.
Off Base on Sex Ed
A McCain campaign ad claims Obama's "one accomplishment" was a bill to teach sex ed to kindergarten kids. Don't believe it.
FactChecking McCain
He made some flubs in accepting the nomination.
GOP Convention Spin, Part II
Palin trips up on her facts, and Giuliani and Huckabee have their own stumbles on Night 3 of the Republican confab.
GOP Convention Spin
Lieberman and Thompson make misleading claims about Obama on Day Two of the party in St. Paul.
Too funny...
This is a typical reply/ post on this site. It's one-sided partisan politics. I don't mean to single out you, SensorG, but this is just another clear expample. This one-sided thinking is very common on these boards.
You fail to mention any headlines that dispute Obama's approach and stance. They are there, but your post fails to acknowledge any of them.
Too funny....
This was purposeful since Chris told everyone to double check with FactCheck because “people like Pink Slip will twist the truth”… This wasn’t some public service announcement, this was some dig at “people like Pink Slip”…
We all know “people like ChrisMyers or LiberalsCanBlowMe” are more then honest and truthful in everything they and write and need absolutely no fact checking what’s so ever…
"people like Pink Slip"....it's starting to grow on me
People like Pink Slip, and Pink Slip likes people.
It is easy to tell who is being paid by the Obama camp to "dispute" anything posted negative about Barak.
I think it is the same group of hired homeless people that used to stand outside WalMart and "protest".
If I could get paid to prove you wrong every day I'd quit my job tomorrow...
I couldn't imagine why you would defend a socialist if you weren't getting paid.
You must be another one of those people who think Obama is the 2nd comming.
I dont' think he's the second coming at all.
Considering how bad the "social and fiscal conservatives" have fucked over this nation, I can't believe there is any one left to defend them.
There is a consensus among people who like to discuss political issues and campaigns on an intellectual level:
A person on the right who uses the term "socialist" automatically loses the argument.
A person on the left that uses the term "Nazi" or "fascist" automatically loses.
With all due respect to the consensus, all Nazi's are socialists, but not all socialists are Nazi's, some socialists are Marxists, Maoists, Stalinists, Castroites, Clintonians et. al. The validity of arguments are not based on terms alone, neither are they won or lost based on labels.
Arguments are won or lost depending on whether or not they can be supported by evidence regardless of who makes the claim and which terms they use.
Suppose this so-called consensus that exists today, used this same criteria (from 1933-1945) of who uses these terms, then it would have been impossible for anyone to say who was a Nazi and who was some other kind of socialist, which was clearly not the case, it was possible to distinguish one kind of socialist from another kind of socialist.
If the consensus says:
A person on the right who uses the term "socialist" automatically loses the argument.
A person on the left that uses the term "Nazi" or "fascist" automatically loses.
Then the consensus is guilty of committing the genetic fallacy.
I stand behind my use of the word SOCIALIST in describing Barak. Had I used the word Communist (a member of the communist party) or MARXIST (a believer in the teachings of Karl Marx) that would fall into the framework you mentioned above.
so·cial·ist –noun 1. an advocate or supporter of socialism.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/socialist
"Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. [1] Modern socialism originated in the late nineteenth-century working class political movement. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution, it being the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.[2][3]
Socialism is not a discrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other. Another dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split on how a socialist economy should be established between the reformists and the revolutionaries. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; while others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies combined with tax-funded welfare programs; libertarian socialists advocate co-operative worker ownership of the means of production; most Marxists (some inspired by the Soviet economic model), advocate centrally-planned economies. By contrast, Social-Anarchists, Luxemburgists, the U.S. New Left and various forms of libertarian socialism favor decentralized ownership via co-operative workers' councils and participatory planning."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
And finally, DIRECT FROM THE CHICAGO DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA WEBSITE:
"Over three hundred people attended the first of two Town Meetings on Economic Insecurity on February 25 in Ida Noyes Hall at the University of Chicago. Entitled "Employment and Survival in Urban America", the meeting was sponsored by the UofC DSA Youth Section, Chicago DSA and University Democrats. The panelists were Toni Preckwinkle, Alderman of Chicago's 4th Ward; Barack Obama, candidate for the 13th Illinois Senate District; Professor William Julius Wilson, Center for the Study of Urban Inequality at the University of Chicago; Professor Michael Dawson, University of Chicago; and Professor Joseph Schwartz, Temple University and a member of DSA's National Political Committee."
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html
An Obama ad plays fast and loose with McCain's voting record on education and proposals as a presidential candidate.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/school_funding_misleads.html
FactChecking Obama
August 29, 2008
He stuck to the facts, except when he stretched them.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html
More of the same, say what ever is needed to get elected and when in office, do the opposite of what was "promised."
And yet, we still think campaign promises, really mean anything.
Yes, please DO check out factcheck.org. The women that runs the Annenberg Center had a great interview on Bill Moyers' journal a couple of months ago---I hope some people caught it. As for this:
people like Pink Slip will twist the truth and present it as fact
That's bullshit. I offer my opinion like anyone else. What are you afraid of?
Honestly, I'm beginning to wonder about this myself.
Something has changed on this site in recent weeks, starting around the time Palin got the GOP VP slot.
The site administrator--Chris--has gone from being a mostly behind-the-scenes moderator, trouble-shooter and overall watchdog of the site to being an obvious cheerleader and blatant PR-provider of the political party he affiliates himself with.
Everyone on here--conservatives, liberals, whomever--is grateful to have a place to vent and express opinions. Thanks, Chris for providing that outlet. Maybe you don't hear that often enough and you should.
But this is a general public discussion board and not a personal blog, right? When I see you, Chris, mention a fairness doctrine, even if it was said in jest or just out of frustration (and I really don't think it was), I seriously wonder where you're headed with the site and what you're all about personally.
Your personal little pissing war with Pink has become grade-school like in tone and tenor. Mentioning him specifically in a topic-starting post about factcheck.org is way out of bounds.
There are plenty of other conservatives on here who can tell Pink he's full of crap if they feel like it. For the guy who runs the site to involve himself in this kind of juvenile food-fight is not what the nature of SB was when it first started out, that I'm certain of.
doing something that no one else is allowed to do?
Can't he comment and create posts that reflect his opinions and views?
in regards to this site, he seems to be using it more to reflect his own views instead of running a community board, and last and more importantly, I'd like to find out exactly whay he means by a 'fairness doctrine' and just who it's supposed to apply to...everyone who posts or just those whose political opinions differ from his. If this is really a change in the direction of the site I think people would like to know.
Too bad McCain is still in the picture, but look at the trends.
1) Sara Palin had a meteoric rise to political stardom. In about 12 years, she went from Wasilla City Council to Vice Presidential Candidate
2) Sara Palin is a "social conservative, and has called herself "as pro-life as any candidate can be"."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
She is for the Death Penalty.
She is PRO 2nd Amendment
She is against gay marriage
She is a a fiscal conservative
etc. etc. etc.
In short, Sara Palin is a REAL Conservative. A REAL Republican.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Sarah_Palin
3) As evidenced by the almost 13 point bounce that MeCain received since picking Palin as his running mate (see http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/the-sarah-pal-1.html)
CONCLUSION:
Once again, it is proven that Conservatism is what the majority of Americans want.
NOW IF ONLY THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS WOULD GET THAT MESSAGE.
Wouldn't that run contrary to less government, adding more advisors?
"As mayor, she passed a 40% property tax cut,[58] while supporting a city sales tax increase to 2.5% to pay for a new sports complex."
Cut taxes and yet raised the city sales tax? Cut and increase? (May give the Mayor here some ideas)
"While Mayor of Wasilla, the town paid a lobbying firm $24,000 to $36,000 per year to help secure federal earmarks for the town. She also personally went to Washington to ask for more earmarks from the state's congressional delegation. According to a review by Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonpartisan group, Wasilla (a town of 6,700 residents) benefited from $26.9 million in earmarks in Palin's final four years in office."
And now, she is against them.
Opensecrets.org is a great site to see how your candidate voted, where the money is coming from, etc. etc.
Who checks factcheck.org?
My problem is with this:
Off Base on Sex Ed
A McCain campaign ad claims Obama's "one accomplishment" was a bill to teach sex ed to kindergarten kids. Don't believe it.
Factcheck refers to age appropriate content for kindergarten kids, exactly what is appropriate at that age? My daughter is 14 now but I don't want the schools talking to my fictional 5 yr old about sex.
I've heard the audio of Obama talking about this and his 2004 senate race. He said, "it's the right thing to do."
He voted for that bill. What was wrong with the McCain ad again?
A planned parenthood ad doesn't count. That's bs
There is no such thing as age appropriate for 5 yr olds.
So what Obama didn't sponsor the legislation. He voted for it and in the race with Keyes said it was the right thing to do.
I'll get my facts from FactCheck, you can keep getting yours from nut job Alan Keyes...
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html
It's true that the phrase "comprehensive sex education" appeared in the bill, but little else in McCain's claim is accurate. The ad refers to a bill Obama supported in the Illinois state Senate to update the sex education curriculum and make it "medically accurate."
Wow - medically accurate? That bastard!
The bill also called for all sex education course materials to include information that would help students recognize, among other activities, inappropriate touching, sexual assault and rape:
Why wouldn't conservatives want kids to know how to identify sexual predators? hmmm...
I'll take care of educating my kid at the age of 5 thank you. I don't need the state to do my job. The appropriate material for a 5 yr old is"0."
just because they are taking issue with the advertisement does not remove the fact that government has no business on being in sex education period. That is the family's domain and to draft an support a law like that is just idiotic. Someone who supports it supports government taking on the role of the family which is just wrong.
"government has no business on being in sex education period. "
What about reproductive rights?
Marraige?
And on and on.
These are social issues, and yet the candidates, all, want in some way, shape or form want to interject government into them and constituents want the government to do so, because some do not like the way things are now.
What to do, what to do, never worry agents of change are on the way.
And in mid 2010 we can review the change that has taken place.
Why wouldn't conservatives want kids to know how to identify sexual predators? hmmm...
Maybe this is why
People like Pink Slip
highlighting the tricks of pulling one part out and ignoring the other parts. You are proving my point of the behavior people are sick of. I am sure this was the the exact dirty little trick put into the bill so if people were against it, then they can do exactly like pinkslip just did. If they had the guts they would put that part of the bill up separately.
Thanks for highlighting one of the other games that people are sick of.
Other sources reveal;
"The origins of this claim go back to Obama's days as a state senator in the Illinois General Assembly.
In 2003, the Assembly considered a bill to expand sex education directives from grades 6 through 12 to grades K through 12. The legislation required the curriculum to be medically accurate and include information on the prevention of HIV and contraceptives. It also said abstinence must be taught and that students "shall be encouraged to base their actions on reasoning, self-discipline, sense of responsibility, self-control, and ethical considerations, such as respect for oneself and others."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/712/
But on the other hand, why is McCain proposing more spending on public education?
Smaller government = less spending?
"If elected president, Senator McCain would support private school vouchers, give full funding to the federal No Child Left Behind law, and push for an expansion of "virtual schools," the Republican candidate said yesterday in unveiling his education plan during a speech to the NAACP.
Senator McCain speaks to attendees at the 99th annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) yesterday.
The promise to "fully fund" No Child Left Behind was a departure; previously Mr. McCain has said he would freeze nondefense discretionary spending, including spending on education."
http://www.nysun.com/national/mccains-education-plan-includes-a-policy-d...
Off Base on Sex Ed
September 10, 2008
A McCain campaign ad claims Obama's "one accomplishment" was a bill to teach sex ed to kindergarten kids. Don't believe it.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html
(ADMIN edit - auto play movie is not recommended)
And not the poster?
Everyone has an opinion.
right after the selection of Palin, Pink Slip and other posters, decided to have almost 55/60% of the all of the stories on the site are about her. That is not being fair to the other posters and not being entirely true to the mission of the site. You can combine some of your posts into one and if the site continues to be slanted, I will begin to combine stories to make the topics much more distributed. A majority of the topics on this site should be about Northwest Ohio, and when the majority are slanted against one person not only is it violating the mission of the site, but it is misleading. And maybe that is exactly the purpose of the posters in trying to do this.
Lot's of people are tired of politics as usual, and in watching some of the behavior, I am too. Some of my comments have been to highlight how poster's like PinkSlip are biased or to make others see that their points don't hold any water, because others are not.
If it does not stop, I will enforce it by manually by combining stories.
Unlike others on this site, I don't hide who I am and here and I am not afraid to link to a factcheck.org (which also destroys the argument of those who say that I am blindly partisian). While factcheck is checking McCain's allegations right now, Obama is the one in defensive mode and only saying one thing, so of course they are going to have more McCain stuff right now. There was a ton of anti-Obama stuff on the factcheck during the D's convention. I am first and foremost someone who believes in the process regardless of the outcome.
So when I speak up, you should take notice, because that means something is not right. Whine all you want, but I can see through these political games.
"A majority of the topics on this site should be about Northwest Ohio, and when the majority are slanted against one person not only is it violating the mission of the site, but it is misleading. And maybe that is exactly the purpose of the posters in trying to do this."
I'm hoping your 'fairness doctrine' goes into effect on this whenever you have 500 Carty bashers on here all at once. Remember now, we must be fair....
Christ, what a joke.
Hey, what about Jon Stainbrook? John Block? I think we should all expect posts on here regarding them to be fair and not so gosh awful negative!!
Right, Chris???
Much as I don't appreciate being inundated with what appears to be duplication, combining stories is beginning to sound like censorship to me.
And I don't hide behind a non de plume and wish others did not as well. I take personal responsibility for what I say because I use my own name. If others did as well, I think it would have a civilizing effect on the comments, language, etc.
Slanted - everyone can post and even it out. Seems to me that people get called rather regularly and for the most part it evens out.
Chris - your biases come out pretty clear to me. We all have opinions and that means we tend to fall on one side or the other. This is not a criticism - but being fair you have to realize that you really are not different from the rest of us even if you are the webmeister,
combining stories is not censorship. If posters posted more stories of substance then there would be no reason to even consider it. I will do it if posters will not.
What is a story of substance?
Seems that the comments about the elections are becoming verboten.
Kinda vague, other posters.
"Some of my comments have been to highlight how poster's like PinkSlip are biased or to make others see that their points don't hold any water, because others are not."
Dear god, who is not biased in some sense of the word and what candidate has a bucket that could hold water through the campaign cycle, both of them are resorting to the same crapola that the parties use.
"While factcheck is checking McCain's allegations right now, Obama is the one in defensive mode and only saying one thing,"
Personally I think people are taking the whole election and campaign, way to personally.
Northwest Ohio and Ohio are stated to be key to this years election, people are fired up about it.
"So when I speak up, you should take notice, because that means something is not right. Whine all you want, but I can see through these political games."
Political games in an election year! Gadzooks!
but not to the detriment of the site. I can imagine more posts about presidential politics right now, but the ratio is not right for this site.
I wonder how many McCain-Palin-related topics (all positive, naturally) you posted yourself since Palin was announced to be on the ticket a couple weeks ago?
I'm guessing about half a dozen, give or take.
and some of those were posted to provide balance on some of the other posts. I have even posted some items about Obama and Clinton, not ringing endorsements but they were not negative either. I dare you or PinkSlip to do the same.
since that seems to be the topic of the day, you either remove the direct reference to Pink Slip on the beginning post of this thread or include 'LibsCanBlowMe' in the reference to those whose postings 'twist the truth'?
Then we can all really see just how balanced you wish to be.
LCBM gets to the point that pink slip was. No thanks.
I prefer to use Wikipedia.org instead of Factcheck. And, if you notice, I often will conveniently post the references to my research.
I find that Wikipedia tends to be unbiased. Normally they just post information NOT editorials posing as "facts", much like the Blade printing articles on the front page with a very small disclaimer or small label saying that the front page article is "News Analysis".
Analysis of the news on the front page? Analysis by whom? What are their qualifications to analyze the news? Why is their spin on the news worthy of the front page?
Chris, I really don't give a shit what you think
People like Pink Slip
you posted a response. It is an odd response too.
Because in the words of the great Fred Thompson:
This business will get out of control!
It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it!
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"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, and
five times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -Charles
Bukowski
Palin says Alaska supplies 20 percent of U.S. energy.
Not true. Not even close.
Summary
Palin claims Alaska "produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." That's not true.
Alaska did produce 14 percent of all the oil from U.S. wells last year, but that's a far cry from all the "energy" produced in the U.S.
Alaska's share of domestic energy production was 3.5 percent, according to the official figures kept by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
And if by "supply" Palin meant all the energy consumed in the U.S., and not just produced here, then Alaska's production accounted for only 2.4 percent.
Analysis
Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin sat down with ABC News' Charlie Gibson for an interview, part of which aired Sept. 11. In the exchange, the Alaska governor misstated a basic fact about her state's energy production: (continued @ FactCheck.org)
People like Pink Slip
"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, and five times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -Charles Bukowski
example of all that is wrong today. Thanks for posting it.
Kierkegaard is no better Nietzsche. Watch this:
We can't let this pervert get into office. Kierkegaard wants us to defile our own bodies on a regular basis. I don't want that sleazeball telling my kids to rub one out. And don't get me started on how he thinks the Christian faith is based on irrationality. If Kierkegaard wins, I will move to Canada. That is, unless the amount of people with ideas similar to mine emigrating to the Great White North overwelms the Canadian health care system. Under those circumstances, it doesn't make sense to move to Canada.
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"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, and
five times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -Charles
Bukowski
Economists Warn Anti-Bush Merchandise Market Close To Collapse
a little off task as far as the election goes. I don't understand why, other than the fact that in this election we could elect the first black president.
Not only the first black president but a president that will "fundamentally" change the way business is done in Washington and will address the real issues that I face. If Barack Hussein Obama was a white (male,female or other) Catholic from Georgia and had the platform of "change" and the slogan "Yes WE can," that would be my candidate.
I have not written on SB, just reading, for a couple of days because I said, that I will be the change that I want to see. I went out and registered 18 voters (in one day).
My little bit to keep McCain and Palin out of the White House.
Obama/Obiden/08
Great Job!!
Election talk is always big online leading up to an election.
Most of the web communities I frequented back in 2004 were temporarily taken over with Bush vs. Kerry and other political talk before the election too. You can't just say that its because Obama is black.
How many signed with an 'X' ?
My point is that if people were qualified and cared enough about the platforms and issues of a candidate, they would have been registered to vote already.
Without any help.
All you did was register a bunch of unqualified people to vote for yo candidate, girlfriend.
People that want someone else to change their life for them, instead of getting off their ass, puttin' down the pipe, quit drinking, go to work, and bringing about change themselves.
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"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, and
five times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -Charles
Bukowski
What "qualifications" does one need to cast a vote, other than being eligible to register?
Neither my vote nor your vote counts any more than a person who might happen to sit on their porch all day w/a 40 oz in hand.*
(*Not that I'm insinuating that those are the only sort of people purnhrt registered, of course...just rebutting el mahico's post)
is a proof of residence and proof of age.
You could be a wacked out drunken fired city employee , have 20 DUI's, possession charges, be on probation and still vote.
What's with the "stereotyping"?
once I came to town and he realized I don't lie when I make statements.
the antagonizing little bastard has nothing to say
but I see his name on the right side there...
but of course he'll "have other things more important" than posting, but that's to be expected, right?
well, it will be nice to enjoy the tranquility for the next 8 days :)
Uh oh. The uneducated castoff from Toledo must be back to try to involve himself in Toledo's affairs. Like I am supposed to track this loser's whereabouts. Glad to see he is in Lucas County. What's the address ? - Time for Warrant Service. I told you this time would come.
"but I see his name on the right side there"
I assume you mean the 'Who's online' feature. Our refugee must not have much of a life to be sitting there all day monitoring who is online, and barraging the blogs with his negative commentary. Yes, asshole - some people DO have a live beyond sitting in front of a computer, being supported by a cougar, and lazily drifting thru time spewing repressed anger from yesteryear as you try to become involved in the affairs of a town that you were banished from.
As I told you before - that feature stays on with the names of people that have their computers open to this website. Even if they get up to walk out to the kitchen, answer the door, or as in this case, when I get up to take a healthy shit and think of YOU.
Are you sure you turned the stove off ?
Better to get back to wherever your troll-ass came from and check.
you truly are an entertaining sot, Gary
still stuck on the same lame material? lol
shame there isn't a Cap't Hirams up here to hang with you ....but you don't get out much, do you, with probation and all? lol
Sorry - I don't 'hang' with losers.
I deal with the past and get on with improving the quality of my life. How about you ?
You miss the bar with their rum and cokes so much you even write about it.
You tell us why you are here, have told us all about your miserable encounters with Lucas County's judicial system - yet you keep coming back - in person and via internet.
Tell us what YOU have done to improve your life.
Merely relocating to another town and being supported by an older, educated woman does NOT constitute true change.
That is a locational change.
You can tell us about the ground shaking when rockets blast off, beauty of the ocean and intercoastals, etc., etc., but that is the location. YOU had nothing to do with that.
What changes have you done to yourself ?
You are a bitter and angry young man that soon will be a bitter and angry OLD man unless you learn to truly deal with your situation in life in a positive manner.
Unless you do, remember this -
Wherever you go - you always take you with you.
as well as your genuine mental state, it's crystal clear that you have no idea what you type.
odd tho, how you enjoyed looking forward to spending time with me in a bar in my state, yet change your mind when the offer is situated on your own turf.
what, the weak spine too much to confront your fear? I'll buy you iced tea instead, ok?
loser? watch what I do when Carty gives me a free job
How did you get from your making the statement "shame there isn't a Cap't Hirams to hang with you" to somehow twisting that to be an offer and refusal ?
If I can fit you into my schedule I would be delighted to confer with you and help you to get over your repressed anger.
Fool, I was never in Florida when I remarked in re Captain Hiram's. Just wanted to tease you about going to a bar. Alcohol must be a source of great comfort for your twisted mind.
What is your current location ?
dude, you're on probation, there's not much you can do, and that includes owning a gun lol
I can find someplace close to you that you can walk home from, unless imbibing alcohol is againt one your probationary rules.
I'm staying on Galena and Ontario Street, right across from Homer's Cycles.
we all knew you weren't in Florida, dumbass, yet you still believe you fooled everyone? roflmfao
you'd die if you saw my name fingered on your driver's window, wouldn't you?
Since the car is on my property...YOU would die.
A lot has changed since you were in Ohio last.
Check ALL your facts. That's what this thread is about.
Is there an address there ?
google me
find me before I find you
fun game, huh?
probation boys don't play with guns
bet the wife is happy now with the drama you played now, ain't she, seeing she's the only one in your rental allowed to have one.
I used ARIES to research that
;)
Great entertainment, but facts are facts.
A car w/ Florida plates is not observed at or near that location, so i must assume you flew in. What is the address ?
In your spare time, google 'U.S. Communication Decency Act of 1996'. Read it all, you will find yourself and your threats. Don't know the device you used to send the threats to me in email, but I DO know that I received it here in Lucas County, Ohio, by my computer that is connected by virtue of DSL, a telephonic communication device. You qualify.
BTW, you were looking for complaints filed in Toledo Municipal Court and Lucas County Common Pleas Court. The court that has jurisdiction in your case is the Federal Court. They are located on Spielbusch.
Normally, I might feel sorry for your lack of knowledge and throw your bail.
Not anymore !
You have not demonstrated a single behavior that leads me to believe that you are sincerely working on changing your repressed anger with corrective action.
Call the cougar for some more cash.
awwwwwwwwwww come on Gary
talked a tough talk while I was down there, but now I'm here, all you're going to do is try to scare me off?
yep, seven more days of this lovely community
and don't worry, our paths will cross before I head home, I promise you.
You had a shitload of malicious intent and most of it is still on here, so get over yourself
turn about is fair play ;)
What is the "shitload of malicious intent" that you have conjured up in your rum-laden mind ?
BTW - what is the address where you are at now ?
make me tell you , Gary
beg me for the information
come here and lick my boot, freak
then maybe I'll share
but until then, just walk the streets, I'll be sitting on the stoop waiting for you...I know what you look like
love the thing about sending a search party out to find my car
that was fucking hilarious
you call two TPD uniforms a "search party" ?
You are hilarious.
This is called 'warrant service', asshole.
Quite literally, it means to serve an outstanding warrant on a suspect. That be you.
Bring your toothbrush.
as my posting time is monitored by a lush lol
that makes YOU the lush, right Goober ?
02:59 ?
Rippin' and runnin' the Toledo streets, just like always.
Get a life.
.
but instead they're doing YOUR bidding? ROFLMFO
dude, you're a nobody drunk on probation
sorry liar, there hasn't been but one cop all night, and he chatted with my buddy with me standing right there in the parking lot of Erie Foods
the hood has quiet nights like this one these days
man, even your LYING sucks Gary
must be out serving warrants to other figures you've conjured up in your head
to rid the streets of vermin such as yourself and to get them into the criminal justice system to answer for their actions.
Goober, how was the alcohol lastnight ?
Did it ease your pain ?
Did it change anything ?
You are the same asshole in Toledo that you are in Florida.
Get a life beyond pulling weeds, planting flowers, and living off the cougar.
I had the best time of my life, Gary
nooooo never drank a drop
i have no pain, my life is complete
I woke up this morning with such a clear conscience, it's a shame you'll never experience that lol
I'm just an asshole to you, Gary, get over it
I'm just dying to know what warrant you claim i'm being served with silly boy i was chillin with the police for a bit and to check and make sure my payment went through for my license renewal, seeing it expired on my birthday this year and almost missed it for the flight, i had the young man run it
and here I sit, typing to you
do the math
you keep making this stuff up, I may have to do something about it while I'm up here, Gaaaaaaaaaaary.
you want me, dontcha mmmmmmmmm
(and feel free to delete and hide your comments about that alleged "warrant", I've got it printed ;))
and "didn't touch a drop".
Goober, you are soooooooooo full of shit that you even believe yourself.
You usually begin to spew your venom at around 5 a.m. Had to sleep in till noon, today. And I really believe that you"didn't touch a drop". Yeah riiiiiiiiight.
Smokin' whaaaaaaaaaat ?
but ya usually don't drink or smoke pot in the company of law enforcement, usually.
I was with the reason I am up here and was up all night and haven't been to bed yet.
now, what about that alleged warrant?
make it quick too, I hate having to re-print this thread
or ya lying about that too, chubby?
at the Control window at Lucas County Jail with I.D.
Have a seat for a minute while Officer Friendly runs you.
Darn ! Booked again !
Call the cougar.
why would I go to more police?
monitoring my times when I log on lol
come on, tell everyone what the alleged warrant is, Gary
stop pussyfooting around and share with everyone
Technically, when they fit you for bracelets, you are not with THEM. They are with YOU. As in a custodial arrangement.
Did you have breakfast at Telb's Townhouse ?
http://noises.ytmnd.com/
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"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, and
five times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -Charles
Bukowski
"and was up all night and haven't been to bed yet".
See what I'm saying ? You talk sooooo much shit that even you don't know when you are telling the truth and when you are lying.
BTW - Being with a child that has taken two semesters
of 'Intro to Criminal Justice' at Owens Community College does NOT mean you "were with the police all night long".
stop wasting time and tell me what this warrant is
I know you like playing games and wasting time, but I implore you, tell meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol
and check this out:
And BriannaInVeroFla is an expert at nothing but spewing venom and shooting his mouth off about everything political that he knows, which is, in short,
NOTHING.
There is no warrant, Gary.
and you've made a mess of thing, I must say
but the investment will be worth this. ;D
now, my entourage and I will be indulging upon the finest of what downtown has to offer in culinary delights
enjoy your fog!
after being called a racist, dumb, stupid, ridiculous and told that I need to cut my hair and other names on Sb and GCJ, I can not for the life of me see where you, Chris and LisaRenee have gotten your attitudes from, over these discussions about Gov. Palin.
I know I am not the brightest lightbulb in the pack but this boggles my brain!
Chris,
I believe that you have every right to comment on anything about which you want to comment. I don't get the criticism. Is one more free to express himself or herself on somebody else's site?? LisaRenee comments frequently on her Jungle site.
I may still be naive on this point, but I truly believe that when all views are aired, most of the people will select the best ideas expressed most of the time. It is a basic tenet of our country, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." And in your case, Chris, there's a lot of issues about which you and I disagree. A whole lot!!
with an X.
They are all uneducated, welfare usin' , unqualified to vote, lazy, baby mama's and daddies and they all had a crack pipe in their hands when I approached them. None of them had any idea as to who was running much less knowing what the issues are.
But I registered them anyway so that they can vote for MY candidate, Barack Obama!
Obama/Obiden/08
had felony records.
then I'll start posting McPalin promos. You don't want Chris to limit these charades, but it makes sense. We'll see.
There isn't any 'charade.'
The anti-Palin posts got under Chris' skin. Period, end of story.
It's a presidential year, it's what people are talking about. If Chris had any integrity, on his 'factcheck' post he could have easily tossed in the name of a conservative poster who 'twisted facts.' There has to one somewhere, doesn't there? But no, it's only Pink who does that? Only liberals or non-conservatives? LOL, please.
Chris is simply flying his own political colors and, in doing so, using this site as his own bully pulpit, just as the mayor uses his position as such, as the publisher of the daily newspaper uses his position as such as the chairman of the Lucas County Republican Party uses his position as such, and Ben Konop uses his position as such...all favorite whipping boys on this site.
But hey, Chris has gone on record regarding this new-found 'fairness' policy, so I'm sure it will apply to all the favorite local SB villains, liberal and conservative alike.
Right, Chris?
Here, each of you take this *passing out foaming cups of green tea with turbinado sugar to thread participants*...
CALM DOWN
Hug your spouse
Hug your children
Look at a tiger lily
Pet your dog, cat, bird, lizard, etc.
Do something...and CALM DOWN
It ain't that serious
:-)
Until the lion writes his own story, the tale of the hunt will always glorify the hunter (African proverb)
that in 55 days, this rhetoric isn't even going to matter.
You'd have all alienated yourselves, exposed yourselves and your true agendas, forced your perspectives and manipulated the facts to make your points, gone down each others throats, and what did it accomplish?
really?
many have decided for whom they're going to vote for and their reasons. Me? I'm voting Obama because he's not a republican.
That's it.
Nothing that was typed on these blogs influenced my decision. It was my educating myself and reading their websites, researching that information and cross referencing.
You're not going to find sites like "factchecker.com" in my history folder.
So while you guys duke this out, I'm just going to sit back and watch.
Have fun