Kudos for John McCain for...finally...putting the leash on his mad-dog supporters at his rallies. Now if only his running mate can follow suit:
Better late than never
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Good for McCain. He'd win a lot of respect if he were to continue this. There is a minority of the Republican Party at these rallies that is starting to exhibit cult-like qualities.
People like Pink Slip
While he may tell a woman that Obama is not an Arab, he then says that Obama is a decent, family man. Does that mean that Arab's are not decent, family men?
Dem's that are eating their own, maybe Obama should learn a lesson and keep his own from attacking other Dems.
Lisa Renee? Because I have no idea what else you'd be talking about here.
http://www.toledofreepress.com/2008/10/10/group-organizes-homeless-vote/
Would be a much nicer topic.
:-)
If you aren't aware of who else Chris could possibly be referring to and are interested just one place to start would be watching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGZFgMNM-UU
Is part 1 of we will not be silenced...Some of them, if you watch the whole 4 part series went through more than I have.
You're alledging voter fraud during the primaries. Obviously you're a Hillary supporter. Let's assume all this is factual. Does it bother you to any extent that she is now on the campaign stump for her primary opponent, doing what she can to get that opponent, now the Democratic nominee, elected as president?
Should we simply consider her appearances on behalf of Obama now...what?....being the good soldier, playing the game and being in her party's good graces for the next time around election-wise no matter her followers' beliefs concerning fraud during the primaries?
What does it say about Hillary if she believes these charges of fraud true, but carries on now as the defeated primary opponent doing all she can to help her party's respresentaive win the general election?
Is this someone worthy of the admiration heaped upon her by her followers?
I ask because it seems to me politics as usual, and I don't see any significant seperation from what she's currently doing and the typical politician of either party, Obama included.
She's positioning herself for the next go-round, if Obama loses the general election or wins the election and faces probably the biggest challenge any president has faced in their first term since FDR and falls flat on his face, there's Hillary waiting to pick up the pieces and assume the mantel.
Just another politician? Kinda looks that way to me, and possibly not worthy of all this angst over whether the primary process was tarnished.
You know, I love the Clintons. I'd pay cash money to have Bill back in the Oval Office. We prospered economically, we were largely at peace. But there were many who claimed they didn't exactly play the game according to accepted rules, either.
I can't say I personally witnessed any, but I think the evidence suggests it happened. It does seem politics as usual and if you wonder why many of her former supporters have not done as she asked and supported Obama, I'd suggest the fact that many believe she caved under the political pressure to "get over it" (using the popular line) has been an additional factor that has soured some on the Democratic Party.
Some appear to still be loyal to her and feel that she's doing what she has to do.
If it where me who had personally experienced some of what is claimed happened, and I had personal proof of fraud? I'd have a hard time excusing her acceptance of Obama. The reasoning for sharing the videos was it is an example of those who have experienced the "Democrats eat their own" syndrome. It also addresses the common misconception that these people are closet republicans and/or don't really exist. There are quite a few more stories out there, including one who has had dead animals left on her doorstep. So I can't claim anywhere close to experiencing that level of hatred, as frustrating as it has been, it could be worse.
For me it's a bit easier since Hillary was not my first choice nor my second choice. Though all that matters to those who have felt it necessary to act out is that I ended up supporting her and will not state I support Obama.
Which I have to add made it very funny when a letter to the editor of the Blade accused me of being so liberal that I would skew people to vote for Obama. The irony of the total assumptions people make was pretty evident.
The Democrats "eating their own" comes with the territory of being the "big tent" party. Lots of different factions.
However, I've never seen a candidate being booed at his own rally like McCain was.
People like Pink Slip
that practically every single closely-contested primary, in recent or not-so-recent history, has been subjected to voter fraud claims or use of other unsavory tactics, and people of the same party playing dirty pool to get their guy elected or advancing to the next stage at the expense of others in the same party.
Bush-McCain S.C. 2000 primary exhibit A--perhaps not fraud per se, but talk about a party eating their own.
It happens, it's always happened, and some need to move on. Don't mean that as a lecture. Just my opinion.
If you truly believe the system needs to be fixed then moving on just means it continues. After this election is over no matter who wins I expect many to push for the elimination of the caucuses towards a real democratic process where one person equals one vote.
Part of the reason the primary system has been able to even have concerns of fraud has been the unwillingness to do anything about it. Some may be content to accept "politics as usual" but thankfully not everyone is.
in the months and probably years after this election is over, the problems we and our elected officials are going to be facing are likely so be so manifest and all-consuming a re-working of the primary system will be so far down the to-do list as to be invisible.
Seriously, if Hillary had benefited from the same 'flawed' caucus system instead of her opponent, would you still be so aggresive in pursuit of a change?
I've been an advocate for changing that before Clinton.
I realize most people seem to flip flop around on what they believe in, I'm not one of those. A skewed primary process that does not include the ability for every American citizen to have the ability to have a voice should be an important concern to everyone. I also don't believe that the same states should have the "first" say since time and time again candidates drop out early in the process. I support a rolling primary schedule with each portion of the nation having an opportunity to be in the first group, with it done geographically so that it is easier for not only the candidates but the residents to have their attention and access.
and I applaud your commitment to help fix what you think is broken.
does that mean that Arabs are not decent, family men?