Board member on disciplined DB?

I searched the Columbus Dispatch disciplined teacher data base....is this board member Steve Steel?

I found it at the link below.

http://www.dispatch.com/dispatch/contentbe/dispatch/directory/badteacher...

Name: STEVEN C STEEL
Date of Birth: Aug 18 1962
School District: Toledo
Zip code: 43620
Offense description: DISORDERLY CONDUCT/INTOXICATION
Disciplinary action: Consent Agreement
Discipline date: November 2002

Your rating: None Average: 3.3 (3 votes)

...the case was originally a dui in Toledo Municipal Court and was amended to reckless operation with a $100 fine and $46 in court costs by Judge Arlene Singer.

TRC-02-17986-0103

The second charge -0203 was for weaving and the third charge -0303 was for display of plates...

Steve Steel to me. We had tried to do a search of his records last year but could get nowhere. His records at TPS did not have any disciplinary action and when we asked Clint Faulkner if there were other records, we were told no.

There may be more than a DUI. We were looking for other information concerning his behavior.

Nice double standard there Purehate.

You're just pleased as punch to say it "Sounds like Steve Steel" when you dont know for sure. Youre happy to say "there may be more than a DUI" when you have no evidence.

But when it became apparant that Increasethehate was spreading viscious lies about a teacher at Rodgers High, you wouldnt commit to say that it was wrong.

Why is that?

that Steve Steel is really Johnny Hildo of the City Paper. Is Johnny Hildo, Steve Steel's alter ego?

With your strong arm tactics maybe you can get TPSteacher24 to answer my question.

As always, Twila, you go in attack mode. Maybe that is why the Urban Coalition has ZERO credability. The group hides behind the guise of helping students, but all that is ever brought about by the group is negative rhetoric about TPS, teachers, or administrators.

IMO has great credibility. The issues that this group has been warning about are all being acknowledged by the current group of candidates, including former Mayor Jack Ford.

The members of this group have helped many parents and students navigate the administration to resolve issues of education issues, safety and problems with TPS staff. Again, all things the district is now admitting and the current school board candidates have each acknowledged.

For the last few years as I got involved I went from thinking (from reading the Blade) that this was a group of trouble makers to watching as they brought about change for many families and a public discourse about the very real problems that we have.

Several years later, the district is admitting these very things. Yet in the interim when the problems were denied and the messenger was discredited because the message could not be - this group delivered services and information that the district refused.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

It took you a long time to come up with that one. What is your answer?

Would you allow me as a parent or grandparent to come into your room to do my mandatory volunteering?

As some of your friends on this blog would say, "just answer the question."

collecting welfare, waiting for my foodstamps and living in a section 8 house.

I am surprised that you as a tpsteacher would address a parent of TPS students the way that you just did. That is why we need
change in the TPS system. You all don't respect parents so we know how you feel about our kids.

...still quietly waiting for an answer to my question.

You are a race-baiting bigot

Oftentimes I will write a lengthy post and end up deleting a third of it. I still think it's somewhat therapeutic to write, though.

I generally do not agree with the opinions you post, TPSteacher, but I'm beginning to see your point. Were I employed by the Toledo Public School system, I wouldn't be thrilled to have someone like Purnhrt monitor my class, or volunteer for my class. Purnhrt is unsuitable because of her attitude and potential for disruptive behavior. The volunteers that you probably do want are unavailable. They're either hard at work somewhere or retired and keeping themselves busy with other things. It's unlikely that the most desirable volunteers are utilizing social assistance programs.

Consider the kinds of volunteers that might be desirable. Assistants who were experienced teachers and understood how to run the errands and take care of the myriad number of small things that tend to unravel and make the instructor's day difficult, or who are willing to learn that role are very desirable. They are also in short supply. Guest speakers who are willing to stand at the front of a classroom and deliver a series of lectures on the topic of their own expertise would also be a boon. I'd think that any individuals who started from modest economic means or from a socially disadvantaged background and have made an unqualified success of their lives would be most welcome.

I might be wrong, but that's what I think.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

But when it became apparant that Increasethehate was spreading viscious lies about a teacher at Rodgers High, you wouldnt commit to say that it was wrong.

Why is that?

Answer his question, Twyla.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

"""But when it became apparant that Increasethehate was spreading viscious lies about a teacher at Rodgers High, you wouldnt commit to say that it was wrong."""

When was it established that viscious (sp)
lies were being spread? You show me the "viscious" lie and I will say it was wrong.

An aside, do you all not have spell check?

Most of us came here in chains and most of you came here to escape your chains. Your freedom was our slavery, and therein lies the bitter difference in the way we look at life.
John Oliver Killens

I volunteered for two years (shortly after the Sanders era began) to tutor students on the proficiency tests and never got an assignment - not a call. The third year a friend of mine was running a tutoring program in south Toledo for TPS so she set me up to tutor two 4th graders - that was 4 year ago. I had a great time and the kids kept asking the teacher when Mr. Flagg was coming (they really seemed to enjoy the attention).

I never have had the opportunity again. My friend was told not to invite me back to tutor any longer. They did not want Steven Flagg in their schools - it might just show that I cared about how well the children did and this would hurt their campaign to show me as an uncaring, anti-tax, anti-teacher, complaining and whining critic. Besides, if I were in the schools who knows what I might see!

Just because someone sees room for improvement on almost everything TPS does not mean they don't care about our young citizens. I have been quite active in the lives of children through financial and volunteer means - a substantial portion of this has went to TPS schools!

I've known Twila a long time. There have been times we have struggled to understand each others point, however, I have not known her to be unfair to me because of my skin color. She like the rest of us has a set of experiences through which she views life and the actions going on in institutions like TPS. From what I know she is skeptical of anything any TPS administrator or official has to say. I am as well - I have found TPS officials to be generally untrustworthy - there have been exceptions.

From Wikipedia - "A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own." This is not my experience with Twila!

IMO

Comments on a post are never, IMO, a very good indication of what is in someone's heart. At best they give you a snapshot and without a greater context frequently can mislead.

My initial opinion of a number of posters here (and at Toledo Talk) changed once I met them and had the chance to interact - in almost all cases my reaction as a result of a personal meeting was positive, while their posts raised many concerns. The "live" conversations made it easier to ask questions, get clarification, ask background questions...and the meetings were less likely to be as adversarial as they are when it is a blind post!

Twila is not, IMO, intolerant of any opinion, lifestyle or identity - so I respectfully disagree with you Tpsteacher24. Does she have opinions one may differ with? Well, that is just a fact of life. And my opinion, such as it is, is based upon knowing her for about 10 years. BTW - I am very intolerant of those that display the traits of a bigot.

I assumed that he would check the box other than white. I guess I could be wrong.

As far as Steve Steel goes, which is what this thread was originally about until I became the center of attention, when he was running for school board the first time, he came to one of our meetings to ask for our help in getting elected. Our group, African American Parents' Association was more than glad to help him in his election campaign until some character flaws became apparent to our organization, flaws that we did not want to be associated with.

Billybob, it has never been proven one way or the other what happened at Rogers. On the contrary, Steve Steel's infraction with the law is a well know fact, at least in the community that I live in. What in your opinion would count as proof from increasethelove?

You and others with your lynch mob attitudes chased increasethelove away from this blog and it is my understanding that increasethelove is pursuing the charges in another venue. It is not my responsibility to prove or disprove the charges.

The fact that you say increasethelove is black and you say Steve Steel is white has absolutely no bearing on anything.

tpsteacher24: The slick thing about screen names is the fact that you can remain anonymous and be whoever you want to be. For the sake of children in Toledo let's just hope that tpsteacher24 is just a pseudonym for a tree trimmer and not actually a teacher in TPS. I would hate to think that a teacher, spewing the venom that you have sent my way, as a parent, community person and human being, that you would have any contact with any children especially in a classroom, other than your own. I pray that you are not a teacher for real.

But if you are a teacher, heaven help the children, if all teachers have your attitude, or even 1/10th of all TPS teachers have your attitude and spirit.

And billybob, you spelled more than one word wrong! Turn spell check on.

What proff would I need to show that Steve Steel was reprimanded for Disorderly Conduct/Intoxication? Maggiethurber pretty much spelled it out.

Steve Steel's infraction with the law is a well know fact, at least in the community that I live in.

The phrase is WELL KNOWN, now well know.

See, I can be petty about grammar just like you!!

I doubt very much that you are old enough to have been subject to the savagery of being brought to this country in chains. Your ancestors may have been, but surely not you.

Touche

"What proff would I need to show that Steve Steel was reprimanded for Disorderly Conduct/Intoxication? Maggiethurber pretty much spelled it out."

It's spelled PROOF... turn your spellcheck on yourself, PureHate, before you criticize others.

P.S. If a group of white parents started a White Parents Association, what would happen?

** Proud member of the SwampBubbles Lynchmob **

it's culled the TFT.

Until Toledoans accept the fact that the book never closes on massive un-redressed social wrongs, Toledo has no chance of retaining jobs (Jeeps third shift) building good schools or keeping good neighborhoods. (paraphrasing Randall Robinson)

--Most of us came here in chains and most of you came here to escape your chains. Your freedom was our slavery, and therein lies the bitter difference in the way we look at life.--
John Oliver Killens

--Most of us came here in chains and most of you came here to escape your chains. Your freedom was our slavery, and therein lies the bitter difference in the way we look at life.--
John Oliver Killens

To the best of my knowledge none of my ancestors arrived at the Americas as slaves. They came to a very largely unsettled foreign land for completely selfish purposes; A better life, more opportunity and the freedom to pursue both to the best of their abilities. I have several ancestors who fought and killed the American Indians and who drove cattle through hostile Indian territory. One distant relation made a nice (if right lively) life for himself driving cattle, as he was one of the few who knew the way East.

My ancestors wore blue and fought in the Civil War. That was the war fought over slavery, Twyla, and it was a damned bloody business. Descriptions of the battles and the medical treatment of the wounded are staggering. My ancestors suffered and shed blood to bring your ancestors freedom, something that you and people like you conveniently forget to mention whenever the topic of slavery and reparations is raised.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

--These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will; in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. -Thomas Paine

Steve Steel's teaching license was suspended in 2002 along with 25 other teachers since 1996. This is listed on the ODE website. Steve Steel would not return WTOL's telephone calls.

So for all of you good people who doubted this thread, it has now been confirmed, the person is Steve Steel TPS board president.

Any mea culpa's?

have been noticeably quiet.

From Billy
--You're just pleased as punch to say it "Sounds like Steve Steel" when you dont know for sure. Youre happy to say "there may be more than a DUI" when you have no evidence.--

From KeepItReal
--The group hides behind the guise of --helping students, but all that is ever brought about by the group is negative rhetoric about TPS, teachers, or administrators.--

From BrianInVeroFl
--Do what I do, Twila, if the thread is about something you know nothing about, avoid involving yourself.--

From Pablo
--if we ever learned the truth, we'd have to spend all the time we otherwise spend typing and complaining by actually doing necessary work and trying to make things better.--

Billy also said
--So I'll answer the question for you. Increasethehate is black. She gets a pass. Steel is white - you feel free to denigrage him with no proof.--

..answer the question that was posed to you, not give a smokescreen.

The question posed to you was: "But when it became apparant that Increasethehate was spreading viscious lies about a teacher at Rodgers High, you wouldnt commit to say that it was wrong.

Why is that?"

Where do you see a "Steve Steel/Johnny Hildo" answer for that question?

You are mistaking "negative rhetoric" as being baseless. So, please point out even recent UC statements that have no basis.

I eagerly await your response.

Someone asks you a direct question and you avoid it with some drivel that does not pertain to the question asked.

I was looking forward to your reply, and found myself not surprised by your post. You avoided the issue outright, again.

Strong armed tactics? Are you stupid, really?

That would be your only excuse to not answer such a simple question, seeing you're the person the question was directed to, for a reason.

And stop bringing people into your drama. You're a big girl with your perspective, utilize it.

but no matter which way I answer, I lose.

--These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will; in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. -Thomas Paine

but I do have a job and a life. First off, I have no friends on this message board. I only know one person that posts on here, and he doesn't even know I know him, if you get what I mean. Secondly, I did answer the question with the best response you are gonna get. If I say yes, I lose, if I say no, I lose. So, that is the end of the conversation. I am surprised you are so quick at responding, don't you have some kids to go scare, it's Halloween eve you know.

--These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will; in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. -Thomas Paine

Forgive me, but what reference to parents? I am not catching one that TPSteacher made.

Since when did I become the official spokesperson for all TPS teachers? I am just one individual posting my opinions, as are you. I would never say that all elderly African-American women are race-baiting bigots, because that is a generalization. You see how that works. I see you as an individual race-baiting bigot, and don't lump everyone like you into a mold. That is the difference between you and most of the people that post on this site. As for respect, you are partly right. I have no respect for you. You are a race-baiting bigot, and your opinion means nothing as far as I am concerned. Oh, and by the way, you couldn't pay me enough money to let you near my students. Is that answer clear enough for you?

--These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will; in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. -Thomas Paine

these and theirs will never answer. if we ever learned the truth, we'd have to spend all the time we otherwise spend typing and complaining by actually doing necessary work and trying to make things better. Typing and complaining is so much easier. Can't we just keep doing that instead? Please?!

Perhaps we should give more credence to choosing volunteers without consideration of their politics. Are only TPS cheerleaders allowed in the schools now?

If Ms Page were actually allowed to participate in direct classroom functions, she might be an asset. I'm just saying that we're really not going to know until she's allowed, right?

Reservations or not, citizens have to be allowed access to their tax-paid institutions or a fundamental disconnection will result. What happens after that is civil disobedience of all kinds, and we'll well merit such disruptions from our initial discrimination.

I feel comfortable making such statements in response to your posting, Maddie. You seem gentlemanly enough to take them in good grace. Furthermore, you're in Wisconsin, so you can't get me anyway, nyah nyah! :^)

I spelled a word wrong!!

But as usual you still didnt answer my question.

My question is why can you say what you did about Steel with no proof, but you wont comment on what Increase the hate said with no proof?

So - I'll answer the question for you. Increasethehate is black. She gets a pass. Steel is white - you feel free to denigrage him with no proof.

From Wikipedia - "A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own."

...It's almost like they invented a word just for Purnhrt.

--These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will; in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. -Thomas Paine

In Springfield Schools I was a valued parent volunteer, I spent hours working on various projects for over a decade from fundraising to helping teachers creating and publishing the school newsletter single handedly each month to even being invited to come in to teach a class on Ohio History for 4th graders because I published a book on Ohio History which was so popular I was asked to teach the same class for the other 4th grade teachers with the way I brought history to life for the fourth grade class.

At Arlington, after the principal became upset about my blogging about a security incident and a personal encounter with a very unprofessional TPS employee who had a personal grudge against me (where I did not mention the school by name since it was my other blog the majority of readers were not even from Toledo) my library volunteering days were numbered. I was told that to be able to volunteer in the library where I had no alone contact with children, I was just putting books away and my only contact with the students (with other parents present) was to suggest books, that I had to go through a full background check. Given the way my personal information was supposed to be turned in and I felt very strongly that the school had no need to have my personal information. My statement to the principal was if he was willing to give me his personal information, including his social security number and date of birth, I'd be happy to give him mine.

So, at Springfield I was welcomed and made to feel important, at Arlington I was made to feel as if I was a criminal...

We don't remember days only moments...

She made that one up on her own.

Very well stated Madjack. I could not have said it better myself.

and babble incohearantly about anything other than the question.

She finds a ham and thinks it's gold.

Now, if we can get you past your "Cultural Entitlement" agenda, you'll be just fine.

Now that we all can see you've taken my comments WAY OUT OF CONTEXT FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL USEAGE, let me repost my QUESTION as it PERTAINS to the QUOTE:

No no no, Purnhrt
Submitted by BrianInVeroFL on Mon, 2007-10-29 16:24.
..answer the question that was posed to you, not give a smokescreen.

The question posed to you was: "But when it became apparant that Increasethehate was spreading viscious lies about a teacher at Rodgers High, you wouldnt commit to say that it was wrong.

Why is that?"

Where do you see a "Steve Steel/Johnny Hildo" answer for that question?

based on facts and having the ability to reinforce your stance.

Man, you think people are out to get you when in reality your juvenile antics in response to what you post are the source of legitimate ire.

Do what I do, Twila, if the thread is about something you know nothing about, avoid involving yourself.

I feel both of your pain. I get frustrated, yet have the desire in attempting to have her try to understand another perspective. It does not work.

... was the request for the background check a result of the new law about people who work with children having background checks? Did the other volunteers also have to do this or was it just you and only after your blog post?

I wonder if the background check rules are enforced uniformly thoughout the TPS system?

Brian - The TFT leadership has established a program that many believe does adversely impact minority, male, non-traditional older individuals called the Toledo Intern Plan. This plan mentors and evaluates all new teachers - generally a good thing as far as mentoring goes. However, the TFT leadership has a 5-4 majority on the Board of Review that reviews all decisions to terminate. To my knowledge only one individual has ever had the decision to terminate overturned. The evaluating teachers are also selected by a process dominated by the TFT. Essentially the TFT leadership controls the hiring of teachers at TPS - they not management are the "gatekeepers".

I personally have concerns that this program is used to exclude those thought to be less than good union members - not how well they teach or the potential they have.

Twila is echoing the concerns that many in the minority community share - I too have grave doubts about the fairness and implementation of the plan. I believe her criticism is aimed at the leadership. Twila called it as she sees it - albeit without explanation.

So, I stick with my opinion even though many here seem to have made their decisions based upon limited information. Certainly everyone is entitled to their opinion - I have mine based upon 10 years and not just several posts that appear extremely adversarial. So we can agree to disagree. I'd rather not be in this discussion but I don't believe many of the accusations being leveled as they don't have merit based upon my experience. Cheers

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