MAY DAY in AMERICA

Money, Power, and Wall Street
Frontline May 1, 2012
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/money-power-wall-street/

http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

UK lawmakers: Rupert Murdoch unfit to run company
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/01/us-britain-murdoch-idUSBRE8400...

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Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

From what is public knowledge of your personal information it seems to me your emotional rants on the radio are just bitter envy. If you would have worked in a union environment it's very possible today you would have been retired . To encourage class envy among union and nonunion workers misses the point. Some of the public union workers still enjoy what a majority of all workers had before Ronald Reagan. So to pit people against each other while the vast wealth (see above chart ) of America is concentrated among about 400 families is just plain propaganda. The concentration of wealth is now being spent (Citizens United ) to control radio, cable, and television. Thank God many newspapers and print media have resisted this onslaught. It is my opinion you are the benefactor of this indirectly, going along with what I believe are the employers and sponsors directives.

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Where on your little graphic does it say that the top 1% pay 37% of the federal income tax?

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

Corporate Tax Rates, Then and Now
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/04/corporate-tax-rates-then-and-now/

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of Federal Revenue
1955 . . . 27.3%
2010 . . . 8.9%

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of GDP
1955 . . . 4.3%
2010 . . . 1.3%

Individual Income/Payrolls as a Percentage of Federal Revenue
1955 . . . 58.0%
2010 . . . 81.5%

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What difference does that make? They collect at least 37% of the nation's income. Did you believe instead that the top 1% should only pay 1% of the nation's income taxes?

Staggering amounts of wealth mean exposure to taxes. I disapprove of the 'progressive' tax system, but even a flat tax system would mean the top 1% of the wealth base would be paying the biggest single chunk of all taxes.

You do realize you're celebrating when Union workers who in the middle of a strike threw a stick of dynamite into a crowd of Police who then retaliated? In the end 7 Police Officers and 4 civilians were killed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_Massacre

So wolfman, do you support all cop-killing or just in the name of a Communist-style revolt of the proliteriate?

MikeyA

AGAIN with a reference to communists, more specifically 'Communist-style'???
http://swampbubbles.com/20120424/communists-and-socialists

Please point to where my allusion to Communism was incorrect?

It's not, I referenced it correctly!

MikeyA

Well since they're corporations AND you liberals don't believe corporations should have free speech, we should immediately end these media organizations free speech rights and anyone who makes anything resembling commentary or opinion should be reported to the newest government entity/non-congressional confirmed czar the Knowledge Government regulatory Bureau or KGB for short!

MikeyA

Hey wolfman, how is May Day in Wisconsin, ground zero for the right-to-work fight, going today?

OUCH

Oh BTW, I don't know if you realize JM ask you a few questions in the Ted Nugent thread.

MikeyA

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And yet with all those job losses they have their fiscal house in order AND Walker will win the recall.

MikeyA

At any rate, you'd have more money and would increase the wealth share of the 90% if you (yes, YOU) would stop giving your money to Wall Street to play with.

It would also help if you would stop bidding up the prices of housing, since all that did was make it ultimately unaffordable, become dependent on financing (which means a loss of wealth to the bankers), and just crash and make equity values in the hands of individuals vanish. In every housing crash, to expand the theme, housing equity shrinks in the hands of modest individuals to appear in the hands of the rich, the corporations and the banks (all pretty much the same thing).

Around the year 2000, the rich/poor share scheme was about 20/80. That means 20% of the nation's people held about 80% of the nation's private wealth. By the end of the decade, with the Bush admininstration's "Ownership Society" and the housing bubble and the unrelenting bipartisan use of government borrowing, that had changed to 20/85. Roughly that means that one-quarter of all the wealth held by the lower 80% had been transferred to the upper 20%.

And you know what? In this next decade, what with housing still being transferred from individuals into organizations like investors and banks, and combined with staggering unemployment, then it's wholly likely that will transform itself further into 20/90. Note by the same math that that means that as compared to the year 2000, the average middle class schlub watching TV for the 2020 election results will have about half of the wealth that he enjoyed just 20 years before... all transferred to the rich, and the bankers, and the corporations.

Each and every person can put a stop to this by taking their money out of Wall Street and by stopping their personal speculation activities with housing. But try to tell people to do that, and they accuse you of hating America and hating the middle class and loving the poor. The irony is that their continued involvement in the predatory economic system only means they are destroying their middle class all the faster. Each dollar given to Wall Street is another dollar they use fairly directly to destroy your class. The middle class (yes, YOU) is enabling and encouraging the upper (corporate banker) class to make money by transferring wealth, not by investing it back into the productive middle class to GROW that wealth base.

This is the conundrum GZ. I believe in the America I grew up in. I believe in capitalism for all not just a few in the lucky sperm club. With proper government regulation free of the influence of the oligarchy we could return to an America that works for all. We need control of this out-of-control money in politics. I don't know of any other system that has gave us our Middleclass. We need sensible reforms not anarchy before its too late..

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The conundrum of wolfman is if those "senseible reforms" came from Fred, Ted Nugent, or the Koch bros then he'd be wholeheartedly against them.

MikeyA

Too funny MikeyA! Now quick look busy before the GAO does an audit of your Marine division.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

I wouldn't expect you to understand how the military works since you never served now did you?

The military has/is/does get it's time out of me and then some. Audit away, because I accomplish my mission.

You wouldn't understand that though. You've always had jobs where there was no accountability because you needed a union to hide behind.

MikeyA

Not having served does not preclude one from having valid opinions or observations of the military. If it did, then just a few of us would participate in such discussions. But the military requires oversight from the civilians; that's the design, right.
Btw, have you worked in a large urban public school system? Get the point?

Tell that to your buddy progress. My comment was directed as such because he not only listed Ted Nugent as a draft dodger and indicated that it disqualified his opinion.

Likewise he also listed a list of Republicans and Conservatives who never served in the military. Again with the same implication as above.

SO, I am judging him by the same metrics he judges everyone else on.

For the record I have no problem with civilian oversight NOR do I think military service is a prerequisite for public service. But if wolfman does I will in turn judge him accordingly. It's no different than someone who quotes Leviticus to homosexuals but they themselves don't obey the rules of Leviticus it's hypocrisy for both examples.

Secondly progress, in the past wolfman has suggest that if you own a Toyota, Kia, Honda, etc then you're not patriotic or less patriotic than someone who owns a Chevy, Ford, or Italian owned Jeep. By that metric I am less patriotic than many in here who have not been willing to give their life for there country when I am. Will you at least denounce him on that or will the rest of you liberals continue to ignore what he posts as if he hasn't posted it?

MikeyA

MikeyA is spinning stories out of thin air. I never said that as usual! But a recent poll of active military employees have said they found that the military could easily cut 15% of its spending without harm to our defense! As we all have witnessed MikeyA is an actively "employed" Marine who spends his time trolling the internet. Where is the oversight?

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Such a little post and so much to deal with.

What specifically did you not say wolfman? Please tell me.

"But a recent poll of active military employees have said they found that the military could easily cut 15% of its spending without harm to our defense!" If you're going to quote a poll link it. I have never seen this poll. Why is that important? Because you say 15% of spending. Well right now we're cutting 20% of our force, that's not spending, that's personnel. And the money cut from the military can be as much as 50% of the budget because his strategy calls for 480 million to 1 trillion over the next decade. The percentage depends upon the final number (not yet settled) and the time it's cut. The military budget in 2010 was 680 million.

"As we all have witnessed MikeyA is an actively "employed" Marine who spends his time trolling the internet. Where is the oversight?" How do you know I don't work? That's your implication. I have received a Navy & Marine Corps Achievement Medal and a Navy Commendation Medal doing exactly what I do now. So, that speaks to my performance and proficiency. So what are my hours wolfie? How much do I need to work? When can I take personal time? Can I take personal time at my desk? Can I take personal time on my computer? For the record last week alone I was at work over 16 hours on 4 different days. Now did I take personal time during those days? Yes. Did the government get it's time/work out of me? I can guarantee my CO would say yes. SO, being that I'm not an "hourly" employee, I can take as much time as my CO will allow. I serve at the pleasure of the Commander. As long as I perform the missions and tasks he directs and don't violate any of his orders, policies, and initiatives, then I am totally in the right.

"Where is the oversight? It's called a Fitness Report and mine are consistently in the top 90th percentile which is why I've been both promoted and career designated during a time when forces are being cut.

Show me a union employee that works the way I do without screaming for time an a half and I'll show you my prized jackalope I keep in my backyard next to the unicorn cage.

I've last longer, been promoted faster than a lot of Marines who were smarter, stronger, faster, and even better than me. Why have I been successful when they weren't? I outworked them. And that is why my CO doesn't care one bit about my taking personal time at my desk.

MikeyA

Instead of worrying about how well I do my job why don't you answer JeepMaker's questions in the Ted Nugent thread?

Or at least answer why you won't give answers?

MikeyA

This isn't your podium, you retard. I'm putting you back on topic.

I said to stop giving Wall Street your fucking money. That's not anarchy. That's merely not funding your oppressors.

The America you grew up in, is gone for good, and all the Boomer shits like you need to stop living in the past. The world is now a very different place. A lot of other places in the world (not bombed out from WWII) can now fully compete with American production. They have the education, they have the manpower, they have the electricity and natural gas and transportation lines.

That means our middle class is too expensive. That means that that middle class must downsize itself, willingly and carefully, before it's done to it anyway and brutally. You can't compete with the "low" world price for labor. So you must drop your price or bankrupt. There is no third option, and there's no way to legislate or protest such that there would be a third option.

Drop your cost or suffer. Really that's all this comes down to. Nothing you say here will change the hard realities of economics.

Really, the only real conundrum I see here is how supposedly educated people like you can hold the dismally ignorant socio-economic beliefs that you hold.

The author has a brain eating bacterium causing his entire life to become a quondam existence.

He favors giving the laziest amongst us what others have worked very hard for ?!
A modern day Robin Hood or, an unbridled job killing Fascist ?

The latter is most apropos ...

Thanks for the concern Paul Wohlfarth, it's much appreciated. I was in fact the member of a union for 10 years, the RCIA Retail Clerks International Association. I still have my union card in case I ever go back to the grocery industry. While a member of the union I watched time and time again as people who were stealing from the company were shifted to other locations rather than be fired. I watched lazy workers taking longer than contracted breaks, workers hiding in the stock room, workers showing up late and leaving early. Each time the union bosses who at the time made many times what we were being paid stepped in to save the jobs of those who desrved to be fired. I've seen the union up close Paul.
I don't know what the lucky sperm club is that you refer to in your reply to MikeyA. I can only assume it is based on the jealousy you still harbor over that incident with the inheritance that you blogged about in public. Is it your contention that CEO's are born to their positions, and don't deserve what the market will pay? Imagine what you could have done with a college education after seeing how well I'm doing with only a high school diploma. The world was your oyster Paul, you choked on it.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Fred did I touch on a sore spot? Truly sorry about your personal problems. http://swampbubbles.com/blogs/wolfman/20120312/who-should-be-paid-more-t... Well anyway your constant daily rhetoric is old and tired, just plain bitter to many of your rational listeners.
The delusional talk show host stuck in the past with his patented well worn response of the 1% of union members. Lets talk of the real unregulated criminals that you foolishly protect, the Banksters who stole billions from countries, cities, pensions, and your 401K! No the under educated talk show host dwells on his unhinged boss's psychosis of minimal union evils. Here is the Freducation of the crazy ones... watch and learn.

Money, Power, and Wall Street
Frontline May 1, 2012
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/money-power-wall-street/

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Paul Wohlfarth I realize the post was long, but you missed the question I asked. Please take a few minutes of cut and paste to try to answer it. Is it your contention that CEO's are born to their positions, and don't deserve what the market will pay?
Looking forward to your answer

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

fred I wouldn't wait by the computer for him to answer a question. JeepMaker asked him some direct questions in the Ted Nugent thread. We're still waiting for answers.

MikeyA

CEO pay isn't set from the market. It's set from the corrupted Boards.

That's why the common man needs to take his money out of the stock market. It's run by elites, for elites. Your money is being used to fund that system.

The corporations are majority owned by rich people, banks and other financial institutions. About 80% of the common shares of corporations are held by those tiny minorities. By pure voting alone, they can reserve economic power for themselves. There's no reason for the common man to put his money in that sort of thing, therefore. But I'd never accuse the common man of intelligence, or its little brother, courage.

Thank you GZ for answering Fred's question.

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"When I drive my American vehicle I never am courteous to these selfish people who drive foreign cars. So when an American driving an American car won't allow you foreigners to merge in traffic you now know why!!!" You don't drive a Ford, GM, or Italian Fiat subsidiary then you're a "foreigner".

"Local right wing WSPD extremists drive Toyotas. Brian Wilson drives a full size 2009 Toyota Pickup. Fred LeFebvre drives a late model Toyota Prius. Maggie Thurber the only true local American drives a Jeep Grand Cherokee (you go girl). The TBT Tom Schlachter delivers his poison in a Toyota SUV and he cries when local businesses are failing Boo Hoo. Mr Zeitgeist tell me again of your wisdom as a union member." Only a TRUE AMERICAN would drive a Italian-owned Fiat subsidiary(sic) !

"OOOH seems your friends at TPPA have been busy. What's wrong Fred can't take the heat. You can shovel the S**T five days a week but when someone shovels back in the same tone you got to get personal. What, you think you can make personal attacks without consequence? I've answered my own question of course you do. Well ask Miss Bernard you know the one in Big Birds Honors English class what she drives? She's the only one in the right wing extremist CC team that supports America." What you drive determines if you "support America".

What does it mean to be a "loyal Toledoan"? Wolfman knows "No Nitpicker buying a Toyota is not being a loyal Toledoan." Now it's a loyal Toledoan
He then says.... (same post as above)
"In Korea they export some 700,000 autos into this market we export 6000 to them they promote loyalty to the domestic Korean automakers in various ways even with trade restrictions. We are the only country to not realize the importance of a strong manufacturing base."
And in the very next post.....
"BillyBob you silly boy the GMC has a Toledo built transmission. The Korean story was an analogy a comparison of what true patriots do in other countries."So that's what true patriots do.

I only looked at 2 of the 29 pages of track back comments of wolfman to get all this. So yes I stand by my comment on what it means to him to be patriotic... it's determined upon what one decides to drive.

Please feel free to check my quotes for accuracy in both direct verbage and context.

MikeyA

does the internet count as thin air? That's where I got these "stories".

"AS USUAL" wolfman is/has been/continues to be a proven L I A R.

MikeyA

What's so bad about owning a Toyota Prius? American car companies have made it quite clear they don't want to build cars for us like that. The 2012 "e" model is about $25000 off the lot at Jim White Toyota, and it gets 50mpg (I believe it's 46city/53hwy).

Look what our shit company GM made to "compete" with it: The GM Volt. That's at least a $39000 MSRP (2012 model), and at our local electric rates (12c/kWh) and the cost of gasoline ($3.50/gal), it gets about 72mpg cost equivalent, but the price difference even after the $7500 tax credit (!!!) means it would take 40 years to re-coup the purchase price from the gasoline savings, compared to just having bought a Prius to begin with, for the same miles driven. Forty years! That's probably 25-30 years longer than you'd want to own the fucking car, since the battery pack ($5000 cost, minimum) will need to be replaced sometime after the 10-yr mark. In a 40-yr span, even if the car lasts that long, you're going to replace that battery pack at least twice, adding $10000 to the capital cost of ownership.

(Disclosure: The Prius also uses a battery pack, but it's much smaller (only needing to run the car for 3mi instead of the Volt's 35mi) and costs about $2500-2700 to replace. It probably needs to be replaced after the 10-yr mark, but there isn't much of a stink about that in the news.)

There is a very open conspiracy afoot in the USA to make sure Americans consume the most gasoline or otherwise pay the highest possible costs for transportation. So I don't blame people for giving the finger to U.S. auto companies and going with a foreign vehicle. What we need to do now is DEMAND that the politicians stop supporting the conspiracy by dropping most if not all restrictions on importing all those cheap vehicles from overseas, like the Tata Nano that costs about $2500 in India and gets about the same cost-equivalent fuel efficiency as the GM Volt (i.e. a horribly overpriced piece of shit that was only built for political purposes).

The cost of keeping GM alive is not worth the tax burden. The juice has not been worth the squeeze.

The fact that they came out with the Volt is only proof of their continued inadequacy in the free market. GM will eventually need bailed out again because they did not learn the lessons the first time. The only one of the "Big 3" who learned anything was Ford.

And yes the Tata Nano is a great vehicle. If they sold them here I would own one.

MikeyA

"If they sold them here I would own one."

That's why they aren't sold here.

There are things sort-of like it that are sold here, but they are at least 3-4 times the price of the Nano. Check out Wildfire Motors and others like it. After all, paying $7500-10000 for a vehicle that gets 42-70mpg still beats paying $25000 for one that gets 50, much less $39000 for 72.

It's telling that wolfman accuses me of lying. "MikeyA is spinning stories out of thin air. I never said that as usual!" to be exact. Yet when I confront him with proof behind my statement and proof of his lies he chooses to ignore it and instead go to another thread and lob personal attacks at Fred.

MikeyA

Progress22 I hope you have learned a lesson from this thread: Never defend wolfman.

In fact, you and the rest of the liberals on here should publicly disown him. If you don't distance yourself from crazy radicals and liars then it gives the appearance that you approve of their activity.

Now I'm smarter than that. I believe that even liberals, as much as I disagree with almost everything they say, are patriotic which I define as wanting the best for America. I believe many of the liberals on here are fair and just people. There are some on here who are not. On the liberal side of the aisle it's people like Roland, purnhrt, and wolfman. On the conservative side it's people like farmergal and Mike Coon (whatever screen name he chooses). I have done my best to confront all of them on both sides of the aisle when they've gotten out of line or presented misinformation.

For the conservatives like that I distance myself from them at every chance. I highly suggest you do the same.

What's sad is many of the people I listed will not hesitate to attempt to personally hurt other members here be it physically, financially, or their professional reputation. That is why I adamantly defend everyone's anonymity on here. Notice it's only those who would stoop to that low of a level who genuinely have problems with anonymity. They don't want to squash opinion, they want to punish it.

MikeyA

He fell for it and now the whole world sees. Do I need explain more? MikeyA has a problem.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

"He fell for it" Actually this is troll behavior. I think you need to learn what the term troll means as it applies to the internet world. It's posting something inflamatory to incite a response. Your quote affirms that you are a troll.

And yet again the world sees yet again that you are a liar.

MikeyA

MikeyA,

You're a fine one to tell another that he or she "need to learn what the term troll means as it applies to the internet world. It's posting something inflamatory to incite a response."

After all, Mike, you are the person when writing about me used these words:
"Anal-Rapist" and "narcoleptic molester" and "a whiny little bitch" and "his life of huge debt, fat wife, erectile dysfunction, etc."

And then, there was this e-mail message that you wrote to my wife:
"Judy, Roland seems a little tense could you give him a few more bj's?"

And have been laughing for 2 days over your troll cartoon above. Where did you get it?... I'd like to be able to copy and post it elsewhere. R. Hansen's posting the usmc IP address completes the story. Trollie Wollie is not on here (every hour of the day it looks like) BETWEEN "mission" duties. Trolling this (& possibly other websites) IS his assignment. His CO needs to find him an updated troll handbook - the tactics are too screamingly obvious. And to repeat Keith Olbermann's famous comment: "This one's for you Stewie". Trollie wollie knows which Stewie we're referring to.

FG

FG taking time out of reading the conspiracy websites? Nothing whitty to post about Obama's birth certificate being fake today?

"Trollie Wollie is not on here (every hour of the day it looks like) BETWEEN "mission" duties." What are my "mission"(s) or "duties" and when should I fulfill them? Have I neglected them?

The fact is the IP address he posted takes you to a server in Oceanside (where I am not at) and the fact that it's USMC means nothing. The reason being is because both the computers at the base library and the wifi hotspots aboard base all take you back to the same servers. I've posted from work computers (in my personal time), my home computer(wifi and I live on base), and my kindle(wifi and 3G both located on base). So go ahead and talk to my CO. I have broken no laws AND even if I had the person who would decide to adjudicate me would be my Commanding Officer, who multiple times has praised me for my performance and willingness to stay until the job is finished. So even if he did fault me for taking personal time during normal working hours I give him more than enough time to make up for it.

You see the military is a mission based organization, not a time based one. That means if I get all of my work done in 5 minutes I can be granted liberty because I've accomplished my mission. Now if I were an hourly employee, that would require me to be at work, at my desk, during the prescribed time, no more-no less. All that matters is I accomplish my mission, and I do.

MikeyA

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