Bush, Cheney created the Iraq mess; why not make them try to fix it?

Bush, Cheney created the Iraq mess; why not make them try to fix it?
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-iraq-islamist-insurgents...
Quote:
"Well, gee, $1 trillion or so just doesn’t buy what it used to. Take Iraq, for example.
Or, should I say: Take Iraq, please, someone — and fix it. Fend off the nasty Islamic fighters of ISIS (shall we call Wonder Woman, perhaps?) and keep that miserable sinkhole for American lives and money from coming back to bite us — again.
Put another way: Do you understand now, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, John Bolton and all you neocon nutjobs, why the invasion of Iraq in 2003 wasn’t a very good idea?"


http://citizenbrand.typepad.com/swenson/the_white_house/

Stasi: Dick Cheney's Op-Ed about the war in Iraq is full of lies
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/stasi-dick-cheney-op-ed-war-ira...

Quote from article:

"It’s particularly interesting that Dickie’s Op-Ed appeared in the bible of finance, and yet there was no mention of the financial burden his 12-year war has put upon us taxpaying slobs.
Estimates go as high as $6 trillion, even though the Bush administration had predicted the whole thing would cost between $100 and $200 billion, done, finished, the end. It’s particularly interesting that Dickie’s Op-Ed appeared in the bible of finance, and yet there was no mention of the financial burden his 12-year war has put upon us taxpaying slobs. That bit of over-budgeting comes to about $75,000 for every U.S. household.
Dick, formerly the CEO of Halliburton, also forgot to mention that a Halliburton subsidiary, KBR, reaped $39.5 billion from the war, according to the Financial Times."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/stasi-dick-cheney-op-ed-war-ira...

No votes yet

Whatever happened to that hope and change we were promised?

Apparently Obama feels that his position as Commander-in-Chief is largely a ceremonial role that carries no real power... you know, like the ability to pull troops out of Iraq, to shut down Gitmo, etc.

Of dangerous people. The 5 released terrorist that Obama, Hillary, and others who don't think they are a threat to us.

#1 GEORGE SOROS
Businessman and Billionaire Liberal Financier; Founder and Chairman of Open Society Foundations.

George Soros, the main “money bags” of the Left who is responsible for taking down entire economies on his own by betting against weak currencies, has a disturbing personal history. He grew up in a Jewish, yet anti-Semitic, home in Hungary during the Nazi occupation of Europe and calls it the happiest time of his life.

Soros, now an atheist, is a naturalized U.S, citizen with an estimated net worth of more than $14 billion, according to Forbes, making him one of the wealthiest men in the world. He has made his billions by collapsing currencies, ruining lives and crushing economies, all while portraying himself as the god of a new world order.

Soros is responsible for the collapse of four currencies in Britain, Russia, Thailand, and Malaysia. He is known as the man who “broke the Bank of England” and has called an economic war criminal by the Thailand prime minister. When Soros collapsed the British sterling in 1993, he raked in $1 billion through a single transaction while destroying investments and draining savings of millions of hard-working British citizens. After collapsing the Russian ruble, Soros called the former Russian empire the “Soros Empire,” and now, he appears set on collapsing the dollar. With the U.S. government flooding the market with trillions in new money, the dollar is in a particularly vulnerable position. He has been successful in betting against currencies in the past, resulting in economic chaos, which is all part of his open society agenda for the world.

If Soros is successful in manipulating that agenda, we could see a new world order with countries like China controlling much of the globe’s economic and financial decisions.

Soros believes in open borders, doing away with nationalities, legalized drugs and is highly dissatisfied with the dominant position of the United States in the global economy. Soros has said the main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States and that his open society is endangered by the current government system in America. He has focused his attention on bringing a steady decline to the dollar in order to burst what he calls the “bubble of American supremacy.”

Soros has been able to mask his progressive agenda for years by portraying his donations as “humanitarian aid,” while funneling hundreds of millions of dollars through his Open Society Foundations and the Tides Foundation to far-Left groups, including Democracy Alliance, MoveOn.org, the Center for American Progress, La Raza and Media Matters.

George Soros is the man behind the curtain. To read more information about this blatant psychopath, click here.

#2 ERIC HOLDER
Attorney General of the United States

Attorney General Eric Holder refuses to acknowledge the United States is at war with radical Islam and seems more concerned about giving terrorists constitutional protections rather than protecting the rights of American citizens. Holder believes that “the venue in which we are most likely to obtain justice for the American people is in federal court.” The most dangerous failure of Holder to date came with the recent acquittal of terrorist and Guantanamo Bay detainee Ahmed Ghailani.

Ghailani was acquitted of more than 280 counts after openly admitting – twice – to bombing the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 and wounding thousands more. Ghailani was convicted in Federal District Court in Manhattan by a jury on just one count, conspiracy to destroy government buildings and property. Holder’s law enforcement approach to prosecuting terrorists, essentially giving them the same constitutional rights as American citizens, has failed in the Ghailani case and will fail in the future. Holder’s continuing push to hold trials for enemy combatants and terrorists in civilian court after declaring Justice Department satisfaction with the Ghailani verdict is disturbing and dangerous for the security of America.

#3 BARACK OBAMA
President of the United States

"Organizer in Chief," "Radical in Chief," "Commander in Chief " -- all titles given Barack Obama by the American people. In light of the first two, the third is probably the most frightening.

Tomes have been written of the progressive ideology of the president -- and tomes more are yet to be published -- but it's not simply the ideology that makes this man so dangerous. If he hadn't been successfully groomed to be president, he wouldn't even be a blip on our radar -- the community organizer and agitator who was friends with some shady characters in Chicago might have had some national impact eventually, but he would never have had the power of, say, a George Soros, John Podesta, Cass Sunstein or Andy Stern.

No, what makes Barack Obama dangerous is that he surrounds himself with crazy (and very dangerous) people who have his ear and have been placed in positions of power, thanks to the president's ability to nominate federal judges (most importantly Supreme Court justices), appoint unaccountable czars and fill the Cabinet with radicals. Add on top of that his ability to negotiate treaties, conduct diplomacy, make back-room deals and implement harmful regulations, and you have a truly dangerous liberal.

To read more about the plans of this extreme radical, click here.

Next read this one.

#4 CASS SUNSTEIN
White House Regulation Czar

Cass Sunstein is Obama's regulation czar, affectionately known to conservatives as the "nudge" czar. As the head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs ("the cockpit for the modern administrative state"), Sunstein oversees federal regulations at other agencies. According to the Washington Post's WhoRunsGov.com, his position has become more powerful under President Obama.

His theory, "libertarian paternalism," is light on libertarianism and heavy on paternalism and essentially means incentivizing the masses to do what he deems is best for them. What does this entail? A default to organ donation, First Amendment "reform" (read: Fairness Doctrine), celebrating taxes and giving animals rights.

In 2008, Sunstein wrote an article proposing that covert government agents infiltrate activist organizations that "conspire" to undermine its good deeds. These agents would be charged with infiltrating "chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups," trying to look independent and credible while augmenting the pro-government message. The purpose of this exercise would be to undermine the activists and restore faith in the government. What do you think he wants to do to the tea party?

This is the man who oversees financial, health care, housing, environmental and privacy policies, to name a few.

Nudge.

#5 CECILE RICHARDS
President of Planned Parenthood and Planned Parenthood Action Fund

Cecile Richards directs the largest abortion provider in the country: Planned Parenthood of America. Her taxpayer-funded organization has been exposed for being on the wrong side of the law countless times through undercover investigations by pro-life activist Lila Rose and her organization Live Action. Richards joined Planned Parenthood in 2006, and a recent Government Accountability Office report showed Planned Parenthood performed 306,310 abortions the following year while spending $97.6 million of federal funds. A National Right to Life fact sheet reports Richards’ organization made upwards of $1 billion in revenue for the fiscal year ending in June 2008. Richards herself makes about $400,000 annually (including compensation and benefits) according to LifeNews.com.

Richards also worked to influence the laws and regulations you live under. Planned Parenthood’s website lauds her “yearlong, tireless leadership” on the 2010 health care legislation Congress passed, and Americans didn’t want, with polling showing a majority of Americans were against taxpayer-funded abortions.

Richards least disgusting accomplishment may be outshining her former boss on this list of dangerous liberals – Richards previously served as Nancy Pelosi’s deputy chief-of-staff and “played a key role in her election as the Democratic leader in the House of Representatives,” according to the Planned Parenthood website. So she is a leading baby-killer.

#6 LISA JACKSON
Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency

Lisa Jackson has been working in government environmental regulation for more than 20 years and is now Obama's administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency.

Under Jackson's watch, the EPA formally declared carbon dioxide and five other natural gases hazardous pollutants at the 2009 Global Warming Conference in Copenhagen, clearing the way for the federal government to regulate so-called greenhouse gases, raising energy prices, increasing tax rates, inhibiting job growth and over-regulating businesses with endless amounts of red tape. This overreach of government authority is now being justified in order to reduce pollutants that Jackson claims "endanger public health," enabling the EPA to regulate emissions from heavy machinery and factories. Jackson also helped implement the first-ever national emissions limit for vehicles in 2009.

In addition to making the regulation of greenhouse gases a top priority, Jackson has called on Congress to pass clean-energy and climate legislation. The EPA has called for the regulation of greenhouse gases to fall under the Clear Air Act, and Jackson has said that if Congress cannot pass legislation to regulate carbon use, the EPA will administratively take on the task, circumventing Congress and the electoral process altogether.

#7 KATHLEEN SEBELIUS
Secretary of Health and Human Services

On Sept. 9th, Kathleen Sebelius issued a warning letter to the national office of America’s Health Insurance Plans, threatening to remove health insurance companies from exchanges in 2014 for communicating the effects of ObamaCare to their customers. She wrote, “There will be zero tolerance for this type of misinformation and unjustified rate increases.” Kathleen Sebeluis: secretary of the Department of Health and Human Serivices and First Amendment arbiter.

Someone should have informed the rest of us that the First Amendment now permits only speech that is not critical of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare). But the secretary’s concern extends beyond health insurance companies to other forms of “misinformation” scattering the public sphere. With a level of aggression usually reserved for leaders of communist countries, Sebeluis opined that “there still is a great deal of confusion about what is in [the reform law] and what isn’t” and that the government had a lot of re-education to do. This will hurt a bit.

So the government’s role is no longer to assist in providing health care (as if it ever were) but to make sure that citizens bend over and take whatever the ivory tower deems best for the commoners. It’s a brave new world.

#8 JOHN PODESTA
President and CEO of the Center for American Progress

Former Clinton administration chief of staff John Podesta has been at the helm of the uberliberal progressive Center for American Progress (CAP) since its founding in 2003, when he was hand-picked for the post by George Soros (remember him?) and other CAP founders. Podesta’s dirty politics, which served him well during the Clinton years and the 2000 election, when he helped force the Bush-Gore standoff to the Supreme Court, made him the logical choice to run CAP and push for change the radical Left has been seeking for years.

Podesta’s agenda at CAP is exactly what you’d expect: social justice (read: Marxism), ObamaCare and increasing government programs (socialism), “ideological diversity” on the airwaves (Fairness Doctrine), abortion on demand (infanticide/genocide), stopping global warming (fear mongering) and degrading American exceptionalism (one-world governance) for starters.

Not surprisingly, he has served as an influential adviser to the Obama White House and helped staff the administration with several of his CAP alumni. Podesta’s think tank has also been the refuge of lefties who have left the administration after having their radicalism exposed (think: Van Jones).

#9 DONALD BERWICK
Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services

Donald Berwick, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services -- or health care czar -- has a love affair with the socialist British health care system and wants a single-payer government system implemented in America.

A strong supporter of spreading the wealth, Berwick believes in death panels, planning the supply of health care and that rationing is essential to an efficiently run system. Berwick has said that "excellent health care is by definition re-distributional" and is an advocate of moving wealth from the rich to the poor in order to secure what he calls the human right of health care. Berwick has publicly condemned private health care systems in America and believes the health care market should not be left to the free hand of the market. Berwick also believes in one-size-fits-all health care, limiting health care options for different individual needs.

Berwick was recess-appointed by President Obama, making the opportunity for a Senate hearing to expose his radical beliefs unavailable. He now controls a budget that dwarfs the budget available to the Pentagon and runs the largest insurance program in the country. He is also responsible for overseeing the implementation of ObamaCare.

#10 MICHELLE OBAMA
First Lady of the United States

She has the ear of the President and an eye for his political interests. In fact, Time described Michelle Obama as “instrumental” in helping launch Barack Obama’s political career. “Combined with her own Southside roots – she went to high school with Sanita Jackson, the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s daughter – Michelle’s job gave her husband entree into the best political machine in Illinois,” Time reported in an August 2008 profile of Michelle, while she was undergoing a public image makeover as a fit and fashionable mother that propelled her to a 79% approval rating in April 2009.

Toned biceps aside, Michelle earned her way on this list by championing government intervention on your child’s lunch plate. The child nutrition bill she endorsed last July federalized nutrition standards for schools – even food sold at fundraising bake sales – and placed a minimum price on paid school meals, a cost that will be passed on to middle-class families. USA Today said it was the first time she issued a statement regarding and encouraging more legislative action. The bill passed Congress and was sent to her husband for his signature.

#11 PETER LEWIS
Businessman and Billionaire Liberal Financier; Chairman of Progressive Insurance

It's not just George Soros who serves as the Orphan Annie Left's Daddy Warbucks. There's another major financier the Left turns to with their collective hand out, begging for cash: Soros friend and Progressive Insurance chairman Peter Lewis.

Over the last 10 years, Lewis, whose Florida home is festooned with numerous paintings of communist dictator Mao Zedong, has been right behind Soros in giving to pet causes such as pot legalization and to liberals seeking to fundamentally transform America. Though he's probably best known for his tens of millions of dollars in donations to the ACLU over the last decade ($25 million from just 2001-2006), his real agenda is propping up radical left-wing causes, including millions upon millions of dollars to the now-defunct America Coming Together and Joint Victory Fund (the 2004 fundraising arm of the Democrat Shadow Party, which sought support from only hard-Left donors), MoveOn.org, Media Matters, Democracy Alliance and the Center for American Progress.

#12 RICHARD TRUMKA
President of the AFL-CIO

Richard Trumka has made a career out of driving America’s labor movement into the ground and attempting to bring every other hard-working American down with it. Trumka has served as president of the AFL-CIO since 2009, after working at the organization for 14 years prior and serving as the president of the United Mine Workers since the 1980’s. His single-handed pursuit of soaking the rich is rivaled only by his desire to use politicians to accomplish that goal.

Trumka is most infamously responsible for pushing a worldwide tax and recently called Obama’s deficit commission’s recommendations an attempt to tell working Americans to “drop dead.”

#13 JOHN HOLDREN
White House Science Czar

As President Obama’s “Science Czar,” John Holdren helps coordinate White House policy on matters of science and technology. The former Harvard professor holds radical views on a number of subjects, several of which he has written about extensively. He once opined that a fetus is not a “human being” until he has experienced “crucial early years” of “socializing.” He has favorably cited an essay proposing that “forests, oceans and rivers” be afforded legal rights.

On the subject of population control – a pet issue of Holdren’s – he’s advocated compulsory abortions and even suggested that mass sterilization would be “acceptable” if it were carried out under “strict requirements.” He wrote this goal might be accomplished by “adding a sterilant to drinking water.”

#14 ANDY STERN
Former President of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU).

Andy Stern made history as one of the most frequent White House visitors when President Obama made the list of visitors public last year. That’s because he was one of the grand architects of the health care bill during his tenure as president of the Service Employees International Union, which stands to win big by the socialization of American medicine.

Under Stern’s watch, SEIU fought (and continues to fight) rampant charges of voter fraud and has seen its unfunded pension liabilities explode from $7 million to $1.2 billion. The unfunded pension problem originated long before Stern got there, but he’s relentlessly pushed the idea that the American taxpayer should be the one to make up the losses.

To read more on Andy Stern, click here.

#15 TIMOTHY GEITHNER
Secretary of the Treasury

It’s hard to say whether the failing economy is directly a product of Timothy Geithner’s actions or whether his actions simply didn’t help. Regardless, our 75th Treasury secretary (who has admitted to being too incompetent to file his own income tax return) was responsible for authoring the $700 billion Wall Street bailout, $862 billion stimulus and overseeing one of our longest stretches of unemployment.

It’s hard to pin the blame on a problem that has so many sources, but its clear that Geither’s policies haven’t helped – and have probably made things worse. His feisty rhetoric has angered conservatives and moderates alike.

#16 ARIANNA HUFFINGTON
Co-founder and Editor in Chief of the Huffington Post.

It should be hard to take Right-turned-Left Arianna Huffington seriously when looking at the title of her 2008 book, “Right is Wrong: How the Lunatic Fringe Hijacked America, Shredded the Constitution, and Made Us All Less Safe.” But her platform is the Huffington Post, the preeminent voice of the Left online, and the site generates major traffic – earlier this year, it made the top 10 sites for global news, according to various news reports on Nielson Online’s tracking system. That’s a lot of eyes being exposed to Huffington’s crazy-Left editorial viewpoint.

#17 CHUCK SCHUMER
U.S. Democratic Senator from New York

Many political observers know Chuck Schumer as the publicity-addicted senior U.S. senator from New York. Others regard him as a consummate Washington class warrior and hypocrite, as his broadsides against Republican policies "for the rich" are a bit difficult to swallow, coming from a man who rakes in mammoth donations from hedge funds.

But what makes Schumer especially dangerous is his exceptional political acumen. Schumer chaired the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee from 2005-2008, shepherding Democrats from a 44-seat minority to a 59-seat majority during that span. If Harry Reid had fallen to Sharron Angle in November, Schumer likely would have outmaneuvered Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin to supplant Reid as Senate majority leader.

#18 SUSAN HERMAN
President of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

ACLU President Susan Herman heads the never-ending assault on America’s core values through the gross distortion of the judicial system. The ACLU has played a progressive and unrelenting role in attacking traditional American values like marriage, parental authority, Christmas, public displays of the Ten Commandments and strongly stands behind abortion-advocacy groups.

The ACLU has not only succeeded in separating religion from America’s public places but also has made an effort to move America away from religion altogether. They have also been at the forefront of defending terrorists and open-border advocates. Herman and her team of leftist lawyers have a goal to re-shape America, taking the country as far away from what the Founding Fathers intended as they possibly can.

#19 DAVID AXELROD
Senior Advisor to President Obama

David Axelrod is everything that you would expect the White House senior advisor to be. As Obama’s right-hand man, he reviews every policy proposal and speech and is present at all Oval Office meetings. Nancy Pelosi can say what she wants about the Tea Party, but Axelrod takes part in a little astroturfing himself. During the health care debate, “pro-reform” groups (SEIU, PhRMA) bought $12 million worth of ads through Axelrod’s old PR firm, AKP&D. His current moonlighting gig is with ASK Public Strategies, a firm known for creating front groups. ASK recently worked with an electricity company in Illinois, creating a front group to persuade regulators to raise electricity rates.

#20 BILL KELLER
Executive Editor of the New York Times

Whether he's regurgitating liberal Democratic talking points or exuding religious bigotry by personally bashing Catholics or overseeing the publication of lies and innuendo about Republican presidential candidates or justifying the publication of military and state secrets that both undermine the War on Terror and our international diplomacy efforts, New York Times Executive Editor Bill Keller has made a career of spouting the typical leftist tripe that the "newspaper of record" attempts to pass off as journalism.

Under his tutelage, observers have watched as the Old Gray Lady has been reduced from a typical left-wing rag to a shameful, whorish caricature of itself. Though thoughtful conservatives use it to line their birdcages, much of the world still looks to the Times for actual news -- unfortunately, what they're getting is Keller's spin instead of the truth.

#21 RUTH BADER GINSBERG
U.S. Supreme Court Justice

Confirmed by the Senate in 1993, Ruth Bader Ginsberg is the most senior of the liberal bloc of the U.S. Supreme Court justices (judicially, liberal means viewing the text of the Constitution as flexible rather than taking the text for itself). That also means she’s had the most time to build up personal influence and respect through her work as a justice.

A truly worrisome judicial idea espoused by Ginsberg, which Carrie Severino of the Judicial Crisis Network calls her out on, is being able to use foreign and international law as a resource when deciding cases.

#22 ARNE DUNCAN
Secretary of Education

Education Secretary Arne Duncan wants kids to attend public schools while closing the door to parental involvement in their child's education. Duncan is fully prepared to carry out President Obama's education agenda, limiting the role of parents in schools while giving more power to the federal government to control the education agenda in the classroom.

Despite higher test scores and better grades through school choice, Duncan's first move as Education secretary erased the option for low-income parents to send their children to high-performing schools by pulling scholarships and vouchers for students who had been admitted to the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program. These students are now forced to attend low-performing public schools.

#23 JANET NAPOLITANO
Secretary of Homeland Security

As the top government official tasked with protecting the American homeland, Janet Napolitano certainly seems to spend a disproportionate amount of her time sanitizing the nation’s vocabulary and projecting a deliberate obtuseness about the threats it faces. Banished are “terrorist attacks” and the “global war on terrorism.” They’ve been replaced by antiseptic terminology such as “man-caused disasters” and “overseas contingency operations.”

Leaders who are unwilling to candidly and accurately identify the enemy stand little chance of defeating it. When Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab attempted to blow an airliner out of the sky last Christmas, his device malfunctioned, and he was subdued by alert passengers. Napolitano’s response? “The system worked.”

Do you feel secure?

#24 HARRY REID
U.S. Senate Democratic Majority Leader from Nevada

Those who have dealt with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s smarmy tactics say he’s a lot like a hydra; every time you cut off one of his heads, two more grow back in its place. Reid’s ability to get re-elected is second only to his ability to get legislation passed through Congress, such as ObamaCare and multiple Democratic bailouts. Once the top lieutenant of the notorious Tom Daschle, he learned his leadership role well and has had a hand in passing every major piece of liberal legislation in the past 20 years and, at age 71, shows no signs of letting up.

#25 NIHAD AWAD
Co-founder and Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

Nihad Awad is the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), against which federal prosecutors have alleged conspiracy with other affiliates to support terrorists, according to the Investigative Project on Terror reports.

A local chapter of Awad's organization is currently suing the state of Oklahoma over a ballot initiative voters passed in November declaring Shariah law can't be used to help determine a ruling in court.

The FBI finally had to cut off "cooperative" ties with CAIR in 2008 after the organization was named an unindicted co-conspirator in a trial for an organization that was funneling charitable contributions to Hamas (see "Devil May CAIR," by Robert Spencer, July 2009). Yet CAIR presents itself as mainly a civil rights organization and a group that provides Islam's perspective on issues affecting the American public.

Dangerous deception? We think so.

#26 STEPHEN BREYER
U.S. Supreme Court Justice

Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer is also a consistent member of the liberal voting bloc on the Supreme Court. Cass Sunstein (our #4 most dangerous liberal) praised Breyer’s staunchly left-wing stance in the justice’s book “Active Liberty” on at least one issue key to conservatives: “He is right to resist the constitutional assault on affirmative action programs.”

The Wall Street Journal recently speculated that “Justice Breyer seems the most willing to articulate a judicial philosophy that stands in contrast with that of the conservative bloc” in an article entitled, “Is Justice Breyer Emerging as New Leader of Liberal Bloc?”

#27 JIM WALLIS
President and CEO of Sojourners

In order to spread their radicalism, the Left knows they must infiltrate the churches with a seemingly positive message about helping others: Progressives call it “social justice”; the rest of the sane world recognize it for what it is – the forced redistribution of wealth by the government, better known as Marxism.

This is where Jim Wallis comes in. He’s the liberal evangelical spiritual advisor to President Obama who is helping spread the disease of socialism through American churches. And he isn’t afraid to break a commandment or two (think false witness and covetousness) – and twist and distort Scripture in the process – to see that those who would dare shine a light on his and his cohort’s agenda, exposing all of its evil, are put in their “proper” place.

#28 JON STEWART
Host of Comedy Central's "The Daily Show"

Political satirist Jon Stewart's tongue is acid-tipped. His popular "Daily Show" program regularly slays elected officials for hypocrisy and self-importance, derides political buffoonery and skewers media excesses. More often than not, it's bitingly hilarious and decidedly Left-leaning: a potent combination.

A 2007 media survey revealed that more than one-in-10 young voters relied on Stewart's show as a primary source of political news -- a share that has undoubtedly swelled since. It's no small coincidence that voters aged 18-29 backed Barack Obama for president by a breathtaking 2-to-1 margin.

While acting as a formidable political opinion maker, Stewart inoculates himself against serious criticism by playing the "I'm just a comedian" card. This artifice has become known among conservatives as the Jon Stewart "clown nose on, clown nose off " routine.

Laugh all you want. It works.

#29 HENRY WAXMAN
U.S. Democratic Representative from California

Democratic Rep. Henry Waxman, the former chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, is one of the most liberal and powerful members of Congress. Waxman introduced cap-and-trade legislation known as the Waxman-Markley bill, which was passed by the House of Representatives. If it had passed in the Senate, too, companies would have been required to trade carbon emissions credits in order to operate under government regulations. Waxman would enormously increase taxes, energy costs, kill jobs and potentially could put entire industries out of business.

On another note, Waxman was one of 74 Democrats who voted to continue funding ACORN with taxpayer dollars after an undercover operation by two conservative journalists revealed the organization was promoting child prostitution, illegal immigration and tax evasion.

To read more about Henry Waxman, click here.

#30 AL GORE
Former Vice President; Environmental Activist

Al Gore would like you to know that global warming is coming to get you. Be afraid. Be very afraid. His career as a climate change activist (accolades include a Grammy and the ever-prestigious Nobel Peace Prize, both for promoting his ideas about global warming) almost eclipses his previous position as Bill Clinton’s second in command.

In all fairness, Gore is probably less dangerous now than he was in the 1990’s (though he is inversely annoying). As vice president, he pushed for the passage of the Kyoto Protocol. Now, he mostly lectures people about the immorality of SUV’s.

#31 BARNEY FRANK
U.S. Democratic Representative from Massachusetts

Though the Democrat’s political star may be waning with the House turnover of power following the 2010 midterm elections, the re-elected Frank could still cause damage as he extends his 30-plus years of service in Congress and most likely his time on the Financial Services Committee, which he recently chaired. During that time, the House passed a financial regulatory reform bill that conservative Rep. Jeb Hensarling called a “perpetual Wall Street bailout bill” in the Washington Post.

Frank was also for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before he was against them, disagreeing with Republicans who wanted to regulate the two more carefully and even saying as late as 2004 that he didn’t see any major problems, despite a congressional hearing where concerns were raised.

#32 PAUL KRUGMAN
Economist and Columnist for the New York Times

Once upon a time, Paul Krugman was a half-decent economist. He sat in his ivory tower playing with models and numbers and had little effect on the real world.

Then Paul read a science-fiction book about economists saving the world. He looked down upon the poor, hapless denizens of the world, and his mighty intellect took pity on them. Armed with the power of a New York Times column, he would save them.

Actually, Paul Krugman is just a hack, spouting off standard extreme-Left opinions, sputtering with rage at the simpletons who won’t banish the evil GOP to the graveyard of failed politics and growing ever more bitter. Now armed with a Nobel Prize, he unfortunately carries credibility with many of the Left’s major power brokers.

#33 PETER SINGER
Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University

Peter Singer is a eugenicist. He is ironically a professor of ethics in Princeton University.

It is not accurate to simply call this man pro-choice. He does not deny that fetuses are people. Instead, he argues that it is not wrong to kill them. Singer believes that the ability to anticipate the future is a necessary condition of personhood. This leaves out newborn babies, “defective” infants and people with certain developmental disabilities.

Believing that the right to life is intrinsically tied to the capacity to anticipate the future, Singer has admitted that had it been up to him, his own mother, who had Alzheimer’s, might not have continued to live.

#34 NANCY PELOSI
U.S. House Democratic Minority Leader from California; Former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives

The best news here is that the 2010 midterms’ rejection of Democratic power in the House means Nancy Pelosi doesn’t have to be ranked higher on this list. The exiting House speaker oversaw an increase in the national debt of approximately $5 trillion during her tenure, according to Terrence Jeffrey at CNSNews.com. “Pelosi… has added more to the national debt than the first 57 house speakers combined,” Jeffrey writes.

Under Pelosi’s strong-arm tactics, the House passed a massive government takeover of health care, a massive stimulus that didn’t work, an auto bailout and a financial services bailout. She also found time to accuse the CIA of lying.

A minority leader in the next Congress, Pelosi returns to her pre-2006 role of attacking the majority and being as annoying as possible.

#35 HAROLD KOH
Legal Adviser for the U.S. State Department

State Department legal adviser and rumored judicial nominee Harold Koh rejects traditional notions of American legal sovereignty. Conservative legal scholar Ed Whelan argues that Koh adheres to an ideology known as "transnationalism," the purpose of which is to "use American courts to import international law to override the policies adopted through the processes of representative government."

To this end, Koh has argued that the U.S. Constitution can and should be interpreted through the prism of international law and the "evolving" concept of "global human rights."

#36 JANET MURGUIA
President and CEO of the National Council of La Raza

Janet Murguia, head of the National Council of La Raza (translated “the race”), is at the forefront of the push for amnesty for millions of illegal aliens. Murguia successfully shuts down debate about the issue using lies and claims of racism and intolerance.

Murguia maligns those who want immigration laws enforced by saying they are promoting a wave of right-wing hate, calls for boycotts of TV and cable news network hosts who dare talk about immigration enforcement on the airwaves and believes so-called “hate speech” should not be tolerated, even if censorship were a violation of First Amendment rights.

She advocates La Raza’s radical agenda, which includes fighting for driver’s licenses and in-state tuition discounts for illegals, resisting cooperative immigration enforcement efforts among local, state and federal governments, opposing a fence along the southern U.S. border, fighting identification requirements on Election Day and more.

#37 OPRAH WINFREY
Television Host and Media Mogul

If she sneezes the title of a book, it flies off the shelves. Rasmussen Reports said in 2009 that at least 24 percent of adults said they’ve “read a book or product endorsed by Winfrey.”

Oddly, her biggest endorsement (Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign) didn’t influence nearly as many voters, they told Rasmussen, but it wasn’t for lack of trying on Winfrey’s part. She threw Obama a fundraiser that reportedly raised $3 million and hit the campaign trail for him.

She also enjoys both monetary and cultural influence – she has a net worth upward of $2,7 billion, according to Forbes’ September 2010 calculations, and will launch her own network in 2011.

#38 HOWARD DEAN
Liberal Democratic Pundit; Former Chairman of the Democratic National Committee

Remember his “I have a scream” speech? Some said it was the beginning of the end of Howard Dean’s presidential campaign in 2004. Others maintain that he was done in by his universal health care platform. In any case, the yelp might have been a lucky break for conservatives, as it was a nail in Dean’s ICC-deferring, break-up-giant-media-enterprises, New Testament-forgetting presidential coffin.

After a failed bid, Dean went on to become the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, launch a political punditry career and found Democracy for America, a left-wing PAC that lists supporting card-check legislation and exposing the “lies” of the Bush Administration as its accomplishments.

BYAAAAAH!

#39 ELENA KAGAN
U.S. Supreme Court Justice

Though she’s had to sit out most cases in her first few months because of her previous work as solicitor general, newest Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan did cast a vote along with Ginsberg, Sotomayor, and Breyer to stay the death penalty for a convict in Arizona, though they were outnumbered 5-4.

The 50-year-old activist Kagan was confirmed 63-37 in mid-2010 with no prior judicial experience, but her political career in the Clinton administration and her tangle as dean of Harvard Law School with the military over Harvard campus recruitment because of the armed forces’ “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy rightly bothered conservatives.

She is also a lesbian. To read more about Kagan, click here.

#40 MARKOS MOULITSAS
Founder and Publisher of Daily Kos

As the founder of the influential left-wing DailyKos blog, Markos Moulitsas' -- or "Kos" -- apparent raison d'?tre is to drag the Democratic Party farther to the Left while installing a vituperative brand of scorched-earth politics as the new American normal. He's made significant progress on both fronts.

Kos' ever-hovering threat of "primarying" insufficiently liberal politicians engenders a certain paranoia among many elected Democrats, legions of whom trek to his annual Netroots Nation conference to genuflect before the altar of Leftism.

In 2004, following the brutal murders of four U.S. contractors in Fallujah, Kos reacted bitterly: "Screw them," he blogged. While such an odious comment would likely kill a conservative's career, DailyKos' traffic and clout have expanded ever since, as dozens of prominent legislators and commentators regularly line up to contribute to the site.

#41 DAVID BROCK
CEO of Media Matters

Liberal "journalist" David Brock, a former conservative and an admitted serial liar, runs the George Soros-backed Media Matters, which is nothing more than a far-Left attack and smear machine that tries to bully the press into advancing its progressive agenda.

Though Brock and his cronies claim to be an impartial media watchdog, their anti-conservative bile reveals their ugly truth. Brock uses invective and blatant falsehoods to come against anyone -- even liberal journalists -- whom they perceive might be standing in the way of the anti-American, pro-socialist agenda he and his billionaire overlord want to foist upon us all.

#42 SONIA SOTOMAYOR
U.S. Supreme Court Justice

The numbers are in for the “wise Latina” Democrats painted as a moderate voice on the U.S. Supreme Court during her nomination, and those numbers show her in full agreement with ultra-liberal Ruth Bader Ginsberg 85 percent of the time, the highest such pairing of that Supreme Court term. Overall, she voted with Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer in 90 percent of the cases, according to SCOTUSblog’s final statistical analysis for the October 2009 term. She also cast a dissenting vote in the Second Amendment-affirming decision McDonald v. Chicago, an issue that worried Republicans during her confirmation process.

At only 56, she and fellow youth vote Elena Kagan (age 50) will have many years to influence the country through the Court’s powerful decisions.

#43 DICK DURBIN
U.S. Senate Majority Whip from Illinois

Also known as “dickhead” (just kidding, sort of), Dick Durbin was considered one of the top contenders to replace Harry Reid if Reid would’ve lost his re-election this cycle because of his experience forcing liberal agenda items through the Senate hopper since 1983. Durbin has supported every piece of liberal legislation that has been rammed through during the Obama administration and is an ardent backer of the Fairness Doctrine and amnesty for illegal aliens.

Showing his total lack of class, he was famously and roundly criticized for equating the treatment of Guantanamo Bay prisoners by U.S. soldiers to the treatment of Holocaust victims by Nazi oppressors.

#44 RACHEL MADDOW
Host of "The Rachel Maddow Show" on MSNBC

MSNBC's all-liberal, all-the-time primetime lineup is anathema to most conservatives. In this sea of ignorance, partisan invective and unhinged diatribes, a lone commentator manages to remain afloat in a dinghy of relative thoughtfulness and sobriety.

Rachel Maddow was plucked from relative obscurity in 2005, quickly becoming a regular panelist on MSNBC and CNN. By 2008, Maddow's star had risen to new heights, prompting NBC executives to launch "The Rachel Maddow Show."

While several of her network comrades have descended steadily into punditry madness, Maddow has largely evaded the stigma of laughingstock status. Unlike the Olbermanns of the world, Maddow maintains a reputation beyond the feverish precincts of the far Left. Her occasional appearances on respected programs such as "Meet the Press" bolster her gravitas as a measured spokesperson for the American Left. Maddow's ability to cloak leftwing arguments in reasonable-sounding rhetoric distinguishes Maddow from her colleagues. It makes her more persuasive in spreading the liberal gospel and, therefore, far more dangerous.

#45 ANNIE LEONARD
Author and Host of “The Story of Stuff”

How many trees had to die so that Annie Leonard could create and distribute her documentary, “The Story of Stuff”? Since its release in 2007, it has been viewed more than 12 million times on her website, StoryOfStuff.com, and is shown in more than 7,000 classrooms.

Leonard, a former Greenpeace activist hack, has produced several films condemning the consumption of, well, anything and telling everyone that it’s the government’s job to take care of us. Is this someone you want proselytizing your children?

Leonard is ironically able to create her own standard of living by telling everyone else to reduce theirs (sounds like Al Gore). No word yet on how she feels about scaring children out of buying Legos.

#46 BILL AYERS
Co-founder and Former Leader of Weather Underground Terrorist Group; Education Professor at the University of Chicago, Illinois.

Bill Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist. He and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, founded the treacherous Weather Underground organization in the 1960’s and 1970’s. For years they bombed federal buildings, incited riots and plotted to bring down the U.S. government through violent revolution. Today, they both walk free as “respected” members of Chicago’s academic community.

Ayers became a liability for presidential candidate Barack Obama in 2008 when some details of their professional ties leaked out. Especially galling to many voters were Ayer’s 2001 comments in the New York Times expressing regrets over not pushing his campaign of terror against America even farther.

With the assistance of his ivory tower fellow travelers, Ayers has rehabilitated his image and is now considered an “authority” on education reform and juvenile justice. Indeed, Barack Obama penned a glowing endorsement of one of Ayer’s tomes on the subject.

Despite his slippery denials, President Obama’s relationship with Ayers runs deep. The sordid details of this alliance are meticulously chronicled in Stanley Kurtz’s new book, “Radical in Chief.”

#47 AL SHARPTON
Founder of the National Action Network

Race Baiter in Chief Al Sharpton has made a living -- a nice living -- pitting Americans against each other. Never satisfied to see his fellow citizens living together in harmony, "Reverend Al" is in a constant state of agitation trying to infuriate minorities over a perceived slight by the evil white man, get anyone right-of-center kicked of the airwaves or promote one of a slew of radical leftist causes -- most of which are actually harmful to the black family.

Knowing he risks irrelevancy and losing the perks of being in a position of influence should racial tensions vanish, Sharpton is far more concerned with seeing blacks in perpetual misery and the United States always on a racial edge than to see us live out Martin Luther King Jr.'s inspired vision for America.

#48 THOMAS FRIEDMAN
Columnist for the New York Times

When you look at the authoritarian, autocratic China, with its horrific political oppression, media censorship, Internet restrictions, family-planning policies, “re-education through labor” and other policies, do you see utopia?

New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman does. He’s been there, unlike you. They take action to combat global warming. They have a really fast train.

It’s tempting to write Friedman off as disillusioned and irrelevant. Despite his descent into Chinese-worshiping self-parody, he continues to maintain a sizable audience and access to people who actually have influence.

Friedman’s great foresight allows him to see past autocracy and into utopia. Because, gosh, their train is really fast.

#49 BILL MAHER
Comedian; Host of “Real Time With Bill Maher” on HBO

Bill Maher is tearing down traditional American values and religion under the tent of stand-up comedy. Maher hosts “Real Time With Bill Maher” on HBO but also serves on the board of PETA and is an advisory board member of Project Reason, a foundation that promotes the destruction of all religion in society.

Maher has vast influence on popular culture and spends most of his air time ridiculing all religion, particularly Christianity, and painting middle America and the tea party as an angry mob of racists.

#50 OLIVER STONE
Movie Director and Screenwriter

Oliver Stone, who specializes in historical revisionism, once claimed that the “Jewish domination of the media” is the reason Hitler is a hated historical figure. His 2009 production “W” characterized President George W. Bush so poorly that the film was roundly criticized by the Right and Left alike, with Newsweek calling it “cinematic lame duck.” “W” came after Stone’s gushing documentaries on Hugo Chavez and Che Guevara. His upcoming series, “The Secret History of the United States,” promise to unleash a torrent of new American-hating vitriol in a 10-episode HBO special

.http://bcfoley.blogspot.com/2011/01/50-most-dangerous-liberals-in-america.html

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

TL/DR

MikeyA

Scroll the list until you find a name you are interested in.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Nearly as long as the Old Testament. Congratulations, DTOM

Patience is a great virtue.

Did you expect Domestic Terrorist On Meth to have an original thought or the ability to actually have a point or argument and defend it in a logical manner? Like the Bible-thumpers, he won't engage in debate, he just presents his (un)Holy Scripture from ReDerp OutHouse.com or wherever as solid fact and the word of Saint Reagan as if we're supposed to read it and be magically enlightened, which doesn't work with normal people because normal people actually have something like critical thinking skills.

Newspaper's Iraq Front Page Takes A Big Shot At George W. Bush
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/13/die-tageszeitung-iraq-front-pag...
"As the debate heats up over the unfolding crisis in Iraq, one German newspaper took a decidedly pointed approach to things in its Friday front page.
Die Tageszeitung ran the famous "Mission Accomplished" picture of George W. Bush, but replaced Bush with Shaker Wahib, head of ISIS, the militant group currently running roughshod through Iraq. The message: this is what Bush wrought."

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

said al Qaeda was on the run? and has touted Al Qaeda’s demise 32 Times since Benghazi. oops!

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Fareed Zakaria Blames George W. Bush for ‘Losing Iraq’
http://www.nationalreview.com/feed/380319/fareed-zakaria-blames-george-w...
Quote from story:

~The worst war plan in American history~

"A senior official closely involved with Iraq in the Bush administration told me, “Not only did Maliki not try to do broad power-sharing, he reneged on all the deals that had been made, stopped paying the Sunni tribes and militias, and started persecuting key Sunni officials.” Among those targeted were the vice president of Iraq and its finance minister.
But how did Maliki come to be prime minister of Iraq? He was the product of a series of momentous decisions made by the Bush administration. Having invaded Iraq with a small force — what the expertTom Ricks called “the worst war plan in American history” — the administration needed to find local allies. It quickly decided to destroy Iraq’s Sunni ruling establishment and empower the hard-line Shiite religious parties that had opposed Saddam Hussein. This meant that a structure of Sunni power that had been in the area for centuries collapsed. These moves — to disband the army, dismantle the bureaucracy and purge Sunnis in general — might have been more consequential than the invasion itself. . ."

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

But this is happening under Obama. It explains one key reason for the current situation. The other is Obama not listening to his generals and playing up to his legacy.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

QUESTION

If this is the worst war plan in American history, then why was Obama following it for the last 5 years?

He's the Commander-in-Chief, after all. You know, the guy with total control over the US military? Bush hasn't been giving orders to that military since Jan 19th, 2009.

Good question GZ! While President Obama has continued much of our for-profit industrial military complex, he has stopped the Bush bleeding in war spending. He has killed Osama while ending our two bankrupting wars. He has resisted getting involved in further wasteful war spending in Syria and other cockamamie Senator McCain hysteria. While Obama is influenced by the same military lobbyists he knows the country is broke and we need our money spent here in America. Look at our infrastructure and the call for still more taxes on you and me to fix it. Do you really think we should be foolish and spend our tax dollars in wasteful war?

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Iraq War Quotes: Failed American Legacy Leaves Trail of Verbal Blunders
http://www.ibtimes.com/iraq-war-quotes-failed-american-legacy-leaves-tra...
Quote from International Business Times article:

"It was George W. Bush who essentially argued that the United States needed to intervene in Iraq and end the rule of the dictator Saddam Hussein lest the country become a nesting ground for terrorists who could tap the weapons of mass destruction supposedly on hand. His administration joined with his British counterpart Tony Blair to sell the war on grounds of since-debunked links between Saddam and al Qaeda along with claims about his ultimately nonexistent stocks of WMD. Yet 11 years after Bush began the war, vast swaths of Iraq are now in the hands of ISIS, a Sunni jihadist sect disdained by no less than al Qaeda as excessively violent and dogmatic."

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Bush must have super powers!

He's still causing problems 6 years after he left office and Obama fixed all the initial problems!

Do you think he's a wizard?

MikeyA

I think I'll believe the International Business Times over an ignorant grunt in the Marines.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

I think I will believe the US Vice President over a high school graduate who needed a union to do his thinking for him.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/02/joe-biden-update-larr... Iraq is one of Obama's "Greatest Achievements"!

MikeyA

his thinking and orders from Mr.Indy.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Andrew Malcolm, Laura Bush’s former press flak (but, more significantly, a Bush 2000 paid campaign staffer http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/asshat-malcolm-strikes-again/ wrote the article goof. A longtime republican political hack who now works for the notorious extremist IBD. I dropped that rag about 7 years ago when it went completely nutty.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

LOL

LOL she is quoting the VP on Live with Larry King!

MikeyA

OMG I'm responding to you MikeyA! Why do I bother?

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

The article is directly quoting the VP yet you denounce it as a political hack. LOL

The administration has already taken credit for the security of Iraq. Now that it's been thrust into question again you're saying it's Bush's fault.

MikeyA

Please explain how Bush/Cheney created this mess?

The ISIS came from Syria. It was not Bush/Cheney who opted for non-action non-leadership in Syria.

Don't you forget, the last 7 years of relative stability in were because of the current President. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/02/joe-biden-update-larr... It was one of his "Greatest Accomplishments".

So how did a former president undermine a current one while remaining relatively silent?

MikeyA

Obama Has Touted Al Qaeda’s Demise 32 Times since Benghazi. oops!

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

But, I thought Obama said al Qaeda was on the run? What we have now in Iraq is the result of Obama trying to build his legacy. Which will be one of the worst, if not the worst ever.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Was it Obama who disbanded the Iraqi army in 2003? Because if the Iraqi army didn't have to start from scratch in 2003 they could handle a few thousand jihadists.

Also, Obama didn't decide to keep Shia, Sunni, and Kurdish pluralities together inside arbitrary boundaries drawn by uninformed diplomats in the 1920s. While it might have been done to appease Turkey by preventing the formation of a Kurdish state, the effort to keep Iraq unified only delayed an independent Kurdistan by a decade or so.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

Apparently it was Obama who saved Iraq.

This is not my opinion it is the opinion of the Vice President.

BTW, the dividing of Iraq into the three provinces under one unity dates back to the 14th century under the rule of the Ottoman Empire. It was not a new concept. But I guess you just needed to revise that part of history in a lame attempt to link it to today.

MikeyA

No, in your opinion:

BUSH SAVED IRAQ! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Well not according to the VP.

According to him it was Obama and it'll be listed as one of the administrations greatest accomplishments!

A TOAST! To no one else in the world to having be a benefactor of another one of the Obama Administrations accomplishments!

MikeyA

Obama got bin Laden.

Bush got 4000 of your fellow servicemembers killed and tens of thousands more wounded going after a guy who was handed weapons by his daddy and SecDef under false pretenses and creating the Iraq mess in the first place. And he couldn't even find those WMDs his daddy and SecDef gave Saddam.

Bush also caught 5 Taliban leaders, one of which was involved in planning 9/11 but they were then given up by the Obama administration to get the spotlight off how his administration was doing it's part to kill veterans.

MikeyA

What is the scope of the mission genius?

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Chimpy McFlightsuit's little Iraq escapade created a power vacuum in the Middle East, which meant that all the various Islamic sects and ethnic groups started fighting amongst themselves again. The entire area is one big clusterfuck, you damn well know it is, and while the Dems ain't exactly great about dealing with it, your side just loves to poke the hornets nest because the Republicans love the Military-Industrial Complex, so much so that they sold arms to BOTH SIDES in the Iran-Iraq war.

Here's your buddy and Iraq War Co-Conspirator/Co-Mastermind/Co-War Criminal REPUBLICAN DONALD RUMSFELD shaking hands with SADDAM HUSSEIN in 1983:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r42oejmpkgw

Then in 1985 we were handing weapons to IRAN as part of REPUBLICAN SAINT PRESIDENT RONALDUS MAXIMUS REAGAN (peace be unto him)'s IRAN-CONTRA SCANDAL.

Meanwhile, the entire time, and even now, we continue to give the Israeli government pretty much whatever they want. (Note for those who want to accuse me of anti-Semitic beliefs: I said government, which isn't the same thing as the people, or Jews in general, neither of which I have any quarrel with, least of all about their religion.)

I'm of the opinion that pretty much the whole area is filled with too many assholes who have to play "my religion/ethnicity is better than yours" from the bottom of the totem pole right to the top and it just perpetuates so every time there's a revolution over there some jackasses on the "winning side" shit all over the "losing side" or some jackasses on the "losing side" get butthurt over nothing and throw a hissy and gather all the butthurt people together to fight.

I wonder how it would play out if theoretically we abolished all the borders and government over there and arranged that whatever groups wanted to move to be with their like groups were moved and then let the lines be redrawn. Would we end up with a Shia state, a Sunni state, a Kurdish state, a Palestinian state, etc?

No wait you're right.

It is Bush's fault. Obama came in and saved the day. He put Al Qaeda on the run and Iraq is one of his greatest accomplishments.

Only thing is it's not.

It's no different than those 100 million jobs he saved or created. Just a fiction.

MikeyA

"Israeli government." Most American Jews perceive an attack upon Israel's government to be an attack upon Jews, and, therefore, by definition, anti-Semitic. The vast majority of the Jewish people equate the continuation of the existence of Israel with the continuation of a Jewish presence on this earth. Rightly or wrongly, they perceive the destruction of Israel to be a precursor to a new Holocaust aimed at ending the very existence of Jewish people everywhere in the world.
Remember, the Israeli government is the only truly democratically elected government in the entire area. Therefore, the government of Israel reflects the majority opinion of Israel's citizens. During the reign of the Soviet despots, American leaders would often point out how much they cared for the Russian people and other nationalities within the Soviet Union, while concurrently condemning actions of the Soviet government. Of course the Soviet government was NOT freely elected. THAT'S a BIG difference!
As a retired teacher and a member of the leadership of both the local and state teachers' unions, I have had many people say to me that they like teachers, but they don't like the teachers' union, and/or the union leadership. That's impossible because the union leaders are elected in secret ballot elections, so the leaders of the teachers' unions reflect the beliefs of the majority of their members. The same is true of Israeli leadership.

One more extremely important point. Israel is tiny...really, really tiny. All of Israel is only about 8,000 square miles. As a comparison, the State of Ohio is nearly 45,000 square miles, more than 5 times the size of Israel. While only asking a guarantee of peace, Israel returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt. The Sinai has over 23,000 square miles and some oil wells. How much should Israel sacrifice for peace?
Please reconsider what may be your well-intentioned criticism of the leadership of this very tiny nation surrounded mostly by enemies committed to destroying it. I will not criticize Israel for trying to survive as an island of freedom and democracy in a gigantic sea of contentious, despotic enemies.

"Remember, the Israeli government is the only truly democratically elected government in the entire area. Therefore, the government of Israel reflects the majority opinion of Israel's citizens"

Counterpoint:

George Dubya Bush was not elected by a majority of Americans and did not reflect the majority opinion of America's citizens.

Another counterpoint:

"Elections in Israel are based on nationwide proportional representation. The electoral threshold is currently set at 3.25%, with the number of seats a party receives in the Knesset being proportional to the number of votes it receives.[1][2] The Knesset is elected for a four-year term, although most governments have not served a full term and early elections are a frequent occurrence. Israel has a multi-party system based on coalition governments as no party has ever won a majority of seats in a national election, although the Alignment briefly held a majority following its formation by an alliance of several different parties prior to the 1969 elections.

"Israel uses the closed list method of party-list proportional representation;[4] thus, citizens vote for their preferred party and not for any individual candidates." -- Wikipedia

So the people who get elected are not directly elected, they just elect parties and those parties seat their own choice people based on the percentage they get. Right there you have a problem: the parties can pick their own people, so instead of ending up with moderates in that party, you can end up with Ted Cruzes or Ron Pauls being seated. Then without a clear majority, the parties power-broker to get a coalition, so the government you actually end up with can be, say, 40% moderate and 10.1% single-issue nutjobs, or 24% right-wing and 27% extreme right-wing, or whatever.

Our Congress has an approval rating in the low teens at best, would you say that Congress actually reflects the majority opinion of all of America? I sure wouldn't.

Doesn't matter if it's America or Israel or Canada or Iraq, The people in power fight to stay in power first and foremost and the people that enable them to stay in power the most are the first ones whose interests are looked out for.

system. However, either is preferential to dictatorships. You and I may disagree with the results of elections, but with voter turnout so low, the people have the ability to change those results merely by actually voting, instead of abrogating their responsibilities to be informed, active participants in the process.
As Winston Churchill put it so well, "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all of those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

Ac -- Israel IS a democracy. Israel IS the only true democracy in this region of the world. When you attack the Israeli government, you ARE attacking Jews everywhere. If you do this, no matter what may be your disclaimer or rationalization, you will be perceived by the vast majority of Jews to be anti-Semitic.

Leave it to AC to respond to Dale's valid points regarding Israel by regurgitating the 2000 election and Bush. His obsession is evolving into a personality disorder. Very unfortunate, especially since his constant stream of profanities indicates Tourette's Syndrome.

Patience is a great virtue.

Oh look, an amateur psychologist!

No, Don, the problem is that most people I encounter are so stupid and ignorant that I simply have no ability to adequately describe the scope of their stupidity and ignorance and resort to the all-purpose F-word. Ditto for the cases where people refuse to consider anything outside their narrow minds, such as MikeyA dismissing Mother Jones as a shitty source while he happily regurgitates everything he sees from Drudge Report.

Don

Don remember it's us who can't get over the 2008 and 2012 elections. LOL

AC is small minded not because he's not intelligent. But because he follows only liberal media and refuses to acknowledge it's bias. Like many liberals he cannot withold his penchant for wanting to control others as well.

MikeyA

Pardon me but I do not follow "only liberal media", unlike your refusal to read anything you deem "partisan hack sites". Who is the narrow-minded person? YOU ARE.

You could have fooled me. That's all you seem to cite.

Mother Jones, Huffington Post, crooks and liars, and rawstory.

MikeyA

My my my, deliberately ignoring the Fox News link I posted recently. Boy are we out to deny and spin.

Can't you just get along.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Like anyone who doesn't conform to the Obama agenda. After his statement he is now perceived to be anti-Semitic. Ac, you're making a lot of enemies, Jewish people, Tea Party, Conservatives, Libertarians, Independents, Democrats that are not Progressives, or not Democratic enough.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

The ISIS was formed from several insurgent groups during the Iraq war. When it allied with Al Qaeda, Bush, Cheney and company were more than happy with the connection. They finally had a link to Bin Laden, a way of claiming the Iraq war was about fighting Al Qaeda. Though the link was very thin, and after the fact, it did not stop them from using it to the maximum. Now, instead of just fighting Iraqi insurgents who were defending their country, they could lump all the insurgent groups under the heading of Al Qaeda and honestly say we were fighting “Al Qaeda in Iraq”. They and their pundits jumped all over it.

Well then framing them in that that means the current administration was derelict in it's duties when it said Al Qaeda was on the run and Iraq was a great achievement.

Because obviously they never were on the run and they remained in Iraq the whole time.

MikeyA

Speaking of administrations derelict in their duties, please show us those WMDs and explain for us why Bush failed to get bin Laden "dead or alive" like he promised.

I can keep chucking stones at what remains of your glass house all night, Mikey.

I never once saw where Cheney came out and called the search for WMD's was one of the administrations "Greatest Accomplishments".

Face it, the current administration could have prevented this had they showed leadership in Syria. Instead they bungled Libya and Egypt and didn't want to get involved in another mess. Hence why I'm not surprised they're giving up groups of 9/11 masterminds for soldiers under suspicion of desertion. They don't contemplate the reactions to their decisions. They lead from behind. The current President is the weakest leader we've had in a long time. He'll probably contend with Buchanan for weakest.

MikeyA

"showed leadership in Syria"

FUCK YOU AND YOUR "SHOWED LEADERSHIP IN SYRIA" YOU DISINGENUOUS HYPOCRITICAL FUCK
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/09/06/mccain-obama-would-face-impeachment-if-he-puts-boots-on-the-ground-in-syria/
YOU AND YOUR REPUBLICAN COHORTS THREATENED IMPEACHMENT IF OBAMA PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND NOW YOU FUCKING THINK YOU'RE GONNA ATTACK HIM FOR "LACK OF LEADERSHIP" IN SYRIA! HERE IT IS IN BLACK AND WHITE, THE ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT YOU AND THE REST OF YOUR IGNORANT DUMBASS ILK HAVE NO MEMORIES, NO CONSISTENCY, NO HONESTY, NO RESPECT, JUST AN ABSOLUTE HATRED OF OBAMA AND ANYTHING HE OR ANY OTHER "LIBERAL" DOES THAT YOU WILL DAMN HIM IF HE DOES ANYTHING AND DAMN HIM IF HE DOESN'T.

With one breath you threaten impeachment and throw all sorts of constraints on Obama to tell him exactly what to do in Syria and then in the next you condemn the man for "lack of leadership" since he didn't send in troops or do whatever you think he should have done in retrospect. There it is in black and white, you motherfucking scumsucking lower-than-whale-shit pathetic excuse for a human being cockbreath asshole. "WAAAA If Obama uses force we're gonna impeach him!" "WAAAA Obama should have showed leadership in Syria! That bullshit you just pulled is EXACTLY why I fucking loathe 98% of self-described or registered Republicans and Tea Party members.

You all have ruined the GOP by making the entire party be nothing but a mockery of itself. This is why The Daily Show is so popular with the young crowd: they just love watching Jon Stewart call out bullshit like you just pulled off here.

I just want to see one of you fucking conservatives stand up right now and go "oh shit, AC, you're right, we cannot logically tell Obama not to put boots on the ground in Syria and threaten him with impeachment if he does and otherwise tell him we're gonna oppose whatever he does to handle Syria and then later condemn the man by saying he showed a "lack of leadership", knowing full well that we'd have condemned him if he'd defied us." Just one of you, stand up and admit how you just tried to have it both ways and that you were caught at it. All it takes is one of you pussy-ass motherfuckers to man up and have the big brass cojones to admit it. But you won't because that means admitting being wrong, lying, being weak, losing face, etc. in your eyes and your fellow Republicans and Teabaggers would immediately disown you as a RINO.

The Republican Party has no hope of attracting ANY smart, sane, intelligent, and honest people so long as they keep doing and doubling down on this sort of shit.

Anyone on the moderate/independent side of things want to say "Yeah, AC has a potty mouth and an attitude problem, but he's right, the Republicans (MikeyA being a self-admitted one) put Obama into a 'damned if he does and damned if he doesn't' situation and then just attempted to attack Obama for a situation THEY deliberately created, that's bullshit, I'm not falling for it, and Mikey and the rest of the GOP are awful people for doing that"? Don? PMW?

Chris, I don't know why you are worried about Stainbrook damaging the "reputation" of the Republican Party when the Republican Party's "reputation" is shit anyway from everyone from the top leadership and prominent Republicans right on down to self-admitted Republican MikeyA here engaging in these horseshit games. I feel sorry for you that you're trying to get some of the scumbags out and you're probably not going to succeed because the scumbags are better at hoodwinking and brainwashing whatever people aren't completely repelled by what the right-wing has become these days.

I don't drink but I feel the need for one now along with probably crying for the future of America from the amount of hypocrisy and bullshit the right-wing gets away with that the people either ignore or are too dumb to catch on to.

A leader does what they feel is correct and faces the consequences.

Obama showed no leadership in Syria. He issued a lot of threats. Threats he didn't have the guts to back up.

He reminds me of the cop from Demolition man. He reads from a script and then adds "or else".

MikeyA

WHAT WAS HE SUPPOSED TO USE? BOOTS ON THE GROUND THAT YOU THREATENED TO IMPEACH HIM FOR? THE DRONES YOU THREATEN TO IMPEACH HIM FOR?

Go fuck yourself, you fucking pathetic ass. You tell Obama not to do this, not to do that, or you'll impeach him, and then when he doesn't do those things and shit hits the fan you attack him for not doing exactly what you told him you'd impeach him for.

Just like the right was crying for the release of Bowe Bergdahl "by any means" and then after he was released it was ATTACK OBAMA! time for him doing EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASSHOLES WANTED.

You'd order Obama to walk on water without getting wet under threat of impeachment and then, as he walks across the Reflecting Pool, whip your dicks out, piss all over him, and impeach him for getting wet, because you are nothing more than sick fucks out to make him look bad by any means possible just so your pathetic petty asses have a chance at getting more power so you can get back on selling America out to your rich buddies and ruining whatever's left in the name of Jesus (another guy whose reputation you shit all over by your actions.)

AC you're wasting your time arguing with Arthur. These clowns listen to FoxNews 24/7. I've heard that is all the military is allowed to watch.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Actually in the military we're encouraged to think for ourselves so we know why decisions are made they way they are. It's a way we create future leaders.

I wouldn't expect you to understand that. In unions you're expected to tow the union line and believe only what they tell you to believe.

MikeyA

There have been times when Al Qaeda was on the run, and there have been moments when Iraq has looked like a success, still could be if the leaders of Iraq and her people wanted it bad enough to stand up and fight. Remember, Bush and Cheney were ready to take credit for the achievement when things looked good and the war was coming to a close.

You can blame Obama all you want, but the current situation in Iraq can be traced directly back to the war. The insurgents threatening Iraq today got their cause from that war, and have been waiting to act upon that cause ever since. Either the Iraqis defeat them, or we stay in Iraq forever. Want to go back?

.

ISIS- It was established in the early years of the Iraq War and pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda in 2004. The group was composed of and supported by a variety of insurgent groups, including its predecessor organisation, the Mujahideen Shura Council, Al-Qaeda in Iraq, Jaysh al-Fatiheen, Jund al-Sahaba, Katbiyan Ansar Al-Tawhid wal Sunnah, Jeish al-Taiifa al-Mansoura, etc., and other clans whose population profess Sunni Islam. It aimed to establish a caliphate in the Sunni majority regions of Iraq, later expanding this to include Syria.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Google misdirected you, Fred. ISIS was a post-metal band that started in 1997 and played until 2010, at which time the guys thought that morphing into a terrorist group that specializes in beheadings would be kind of cool.

Patience is a great virtue.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

So does Dick.

Sorry for the repost of this video. I just thought it went well with Joe.

The problem is Bush and Cheney are not in office today as Iraq is falling to shit.

MikeyA

The problem is Bush and Cheney were, and always will be, part of the history of Iraq. They don't get out of it just because Obama's in office now. They are the reason there is an ISIS.

So.... was Al Qaeda not on the run because of President Obama?

I'm sorry I thought that when he got Bin Laden they all just went away. Or... at least... that's what he was making us believe.

MikeyA

He never said he wiped out all of Al Qaeda completely.

I'm sorry I thought that when he got Bin Laden they all just went away. Or... at least... that's what he was making us believe.

I don't remember him saying or implying they all went away. Is that really what you believed Obama was saying?

By the way, the ISIS Al Qaeda were not the ones that attacked us on 911. They were not Bin Laden's men. They are a separate organization that came after 911, as a result of the Iraq war. They affiliated with Al Qaeda because of the war, and are an example of why we say Bush created more terrorists.

MSNBC

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Al-Qaeda doesn't want to be affiliated with the ISIS, because they are to brutal, even for them. They are taking sides with the al- Nusra's, which are the ISIS's rivals. Stop watching Ac's MSNBC and you have a chance to know what's really going on. How did Bush create the ISIS? new terrorists, they were already there. The reason they are moving now is because of Obama's RED LINE that he didn't enforce. Oh! and he isn't doing nothing about it this weekend, he will assess the situation next week, after his NAP. He wants to give the ISIS a couple more days to reach Baghdad.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

YOU, DTOM, are a self-admitted Fox News viewer.

I have repeatedly stated that I do not have cable TV and therefore CANNOT watch MSNBC.

You either need to drop that falsehood or you can embrace your inner loony and also your girlfriend, FG.

That would be "too brutal", not "to brutal".

OK DTOM, I'm going to take you through this real slow, so try and keep up. You may actually learn something here.

First, it is a fact that ISIS affiliated itself with Al Qaeda during the Iraq War. Notice how the word “affiliated” is past tense? “Past tense” means we are talking about something in the past. Get it?

It is also a fact that Al Qaeda is now disowning ISIS. Notice how the word “disowning” is in the present tense. “Present tense” means we are talking about something happening now. Get that?

Reread my post and notice what tense I am using.

You work on that past and present tense for awhile; it'll do you good. In the meantime, here's an article that explains how Al Qaeda is presently disowning “former affiliate” ISIS, “the most effective of its two franchises fighting in Syria”.

Please enjoy an informative read, remembering to keep in mind past and present tense.
http://time.com/3469/why-al-qaeda-kicked-out-its-deadly-syria-franchise/

If you watched something other then MSNBC, it wouldn't have taken you 2 hours to Google back a response, while conducting English lessons.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

I feel the same way about your post LOFL. I understand how it might feel being on the wrong side of the truth. That's your fault. That's what happens when you get all your info from LIARS......

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

They broke the cookie jar, so naturally the right-wingers are looking at Obama asking what HE is going to do to fix the results of THEIR actions.

For the party of "personal responsibility", the GOP sure won't admit any. Not even to go "well fuck, we admit Iraq was a mistake, and we'll get the fuck out of the way and not oppose Obama doing ANYTHING or even try to armchair quarterback while he works on fixing OUR fuck-up". Which is what a NORMAL RESPONSIBLE PERSON would do if they done fucked up, owned their mistake, and then weren't able to fix it because they didn't have control any more. Own up and get the hell out of the way of the clean-up guy, if not actually try to assist.

Hell, it may not be that they WON'T do it, but they CAN'T, because their base will attack them all for "supporting" Obama and they'll all end up out of office.

The reason their is an ISIS is because the Sunnis have been shunned. There's only about a couple thousands of them. Sunnis from Syria down through the North of Iraq have joined them in the fight of their rejection. Maliki's fault, as well as Obama's, Obama's, because he did nothing in Syria, whether you like it or not.. Like I said before, get off MSNBC, ABC,CBS and NBC. Now go goggle me a response.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

"couple thousand Sunnis" in Iraq?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Iraq
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/06/18/the-sunni-shia-divide-wh...

Domestic Terrorist On Meth's stupidity and ignorance shows once again!

Been there 17 times, know all the major players..........

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

If the oil in this area is so vital, where are the Europeans to whom this oil is of much greater strategic importance than it is to the U.S.? It's long past the time when America should act as the world's police. World War II ended almost 70 -- that's 70 -- years ago!! We are not the only major industrialized nation which is relatively untouched by war, as we were 70 -- that's 70 -- years ago!
We were told that the two reasons W attacked Iraq were: one -- Saddam Hussein shielded terrorists, including those who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks on the U.S.; and, two -- Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear, and/or chemical, and/or biological weapons. These claims later proved to be false. Either W was lied to and/or he was not given full intelligence information; or W lied to America and the world.
But, U.S. involvement in the centuries-old conflict between Iraq and Iran goes back to the 1980s war between those two nations. In that case, the U.S. supported Iran, the nation that had allowed Americans at our embassy to be held hostage until Reagan was taking over as POTUS in 1981! No quid pro quo there, of course!
But, we were warned about how bad things could become by Bush #41. In his book, he describes well about why he did NOT pursue Saddam Hussein and directly affect a regime change in Iraq. Bush #41 had a clear exit strategy from Iraq as part of Operation Desert Storm. Bush #41 stated that if he had had Saddam pursued and removed and/or killed, it would have resulted in so much chaos that the U.S. would have been forced to have troops in Iraq for an indefinite number of years. Bush #41 did not believe this to be in America's best interests. W readily admitted that he never read his father's book. It's really that simple: Bush #41 was right; Bush #43 was wrong!
As horrid as Saddam Hussein was, he had nothing to do with 9/11. In fact, Osama Bin Laden hated Saddam because Osama was a highly committed Muslim, and he perceived Saddam to be far too secular for his taste. In addition, as long as Saddam was in control of Iraq, there was a direct counterweight to Iran right next door. It is far from surprising that Iran is talking about direct involvement in Iraq in order to keep the Shiite government in power there. I predicted years ago that there would be some type of cooperative agreement between Iran and the new Iraqi, Shiite, government once the U.S. left Iraq. It is both natural and predictable, but not necessarily good for the region and/or for the world.
To add even more complexity to the situation in Iraq, the opposition from whom the Obama Administration is seeking to protect the current Iraqi government, while containing elements of Sunni fanatics, it also contains members of the Baath movement from whom Saddam Hussein arose when they took over the Iraqi government back in the 1960s! (Saddam was only the Vice President of Iraq until 1979.)
My best advice to the POTUS is to stay as far away from this mess as possible.

Here is quite a good, somewhat detailed, description of the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/iran-iraq.htm

Sorry but that link paywalled me.

And mentioning Reagan and Iran-Iraq is not complete without mentioning IRAN-CONTRA!

I just clicked on the link and it took me right to the article.

I didn't feel it was necessary to use a buzz-word phrase to tie Reagan to Iran in the 1980s. Too often, the use of such phrases leads us down an unproductive path.

AC if you clear your cookies you might get to it.

Everyone makes note of the Sunni/Shiite division and believes it's religious in nature. It's not.

Sunni's are Arabs, Shiites are Persians. That is where the fault line exists.

The Arab Gulf states have gotten closer to the US since 2011 when they became concerned with the Arab Brotherhood during the Arab Spring. They have invested heavily in American military and American Military training (the reason why I am here now).

The problem with Iraq currently is the Maliki government shunned the US for closer ties with Iran and we ignored it. The Shiite(Persian) ruling majority aligned itself closer with it's Iranian(Persian) neighbor. Iran heavily backed Syria with arms. Now that Syria is mired in a civil war with no end in sight it's spilling outside of it's borders and naturally the Arabs are extending the conflict into Persian states rather than Arab ones (I don't expect this to spill into Palestine, Jordan, and Lebanon beyond refugees).

I think if we are to see anything come of this conflict it will be a Kurdish state. They have the most to gain and only Turkey would be in a position to stop it.

MikeyA

Good post, Dale.
For even less involvement in Iraq, I think Daddy Bush should have tried to keep Saddam out of Kuwait in the first place, avoiding war in 91. Instead, it was as if we allowed Saddam to take Kuwait, only to punish him for it later. But, that is getting way off the subject and should wait for another time. Again, good post.

" Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear, and/or chemical, and/or biological weapons. These claims later proved to be false". Later claimed to be false by who? You need to go back and read the IAEA, and UNSCOM report. Also, It was reported that Saddam was moving those BW into Syria. I know a couple of vets that showed me pictures of a Hugh sand storm that uncovered some of those weapons, along with planes .

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

A sandstorm named Hugh? I didn't know they named sandstorms.

Yeah you "know" a couple of "vets" all right, you "saw some pictures" and we're supposed to take that as gospel.

WHERE ARE THE WMDs, DTOM?

LOFL!

Which part is funny? the typo, or the truth. I understand its way over the top for you. That could never be true, because MSNBC told you in wasn't..

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Again, you're the self-admitted Fox News viewer. I don't watch MSNBC as I don't have cable.

Went to Syria. Lets not get back on the typos, Mr. I never make a composition mistake.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Okay so let's go invade Syria and get those WMDs back?

What's that you say? You'll IMPEACH OBAMA if he puts boots on the ground in Syria?

Well then fuck you Domestic Terrorist On Meth, you're just scared that no WMDs will be found in Syria and then the whole house of cards you constructed of lies over Bush's little Iraq escapade will collapse.

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.