DETROIT FREE PRESS: Overtaxed UAW members pay dues, get little in return (guest commentary)

Overtaxed UAW members pay dues, get little in return (guest commentary)
http://www.freep.com/article/20140309/OPINION05/303090055/Matt-Patterson...
Comment to article: Jeff Jozsa · Top Commenter
First of all, the author of this piece of persuasive tripe, works for Americans for Tax Reform, which is headed by Grover Norquist, whom, like the Koch Brothers, is most certainly NOT interested in helping the common man, i.e. the auto worker. Like Fox News, Patterson has brilliantly twisted facts to serve his agenda. It is true that union members no longer get as much bang for their buck as they once did. But I would argue that this is due to the relentless assault on unions by Republican politicians and their ilk (see above). It's difficult to fight such raging opposition, especially, when they've been so successful at turning the ignorant on one another. Yes, the southern auto companies provide as much pay and benefits as the norther companies. That is BECAUSE of the unions, not despite them. Don't believe me? Fine. When the unions are gone, and the companies begin to slowly chip away at everything the unions have gotten them over the last 50 years until workers have nothing, maybe you'll understand. It's already begun, but the Right has you looking at the wrong culprit. I heard a wonderful joke recently. It goes like this: A Wall Street CEO, a union worker, and a Tea Partier are sitting at a table with 12 cookies. The CEO grabs 11, turns to the Tea Partier and says "You better watch him....that union guy is out to take your cookie." Wake up, people!
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Grover Strong · Top Commenter
I have to laugh at his comments. Here is a guy from a right wing leaning think tank posing as an expert on employee/employer relations. It is obvious he has probably never been in a manufacturing plant and does not know what really transpires on a daily basis. He assumes individuals can get issues resolved with first-line supervisors and that the supervisors will resolve these issues. In all my years in human resources, I have encountered a great number of employees who are afraid to sit down with management of any type to resolve issues affecting them. Second, most first-line supervisors are too concerned with meeting production goals to worry about employees problems. I've had employees tell about supervisor not attending to the simplest of problems for weeks and weeks. Therefore, the union becomes their voice.
Last, he makes a point that workers in the southern non-union plants make more. Well, believe me, if
the UAW did not exist wages would be much lower. As union membership declined, so have earning in general.
People like Peterson claim they want to give you a high quality life style when they really want to give a
Chinese low wage life style.
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"It is true that union members no longer get as much bang for their buck as they once did. But I would argue that this is due to the relentless assault on unions by Republican politicians and their ilk (see above)."

LOL! What a fucking lie. Private-sector unions are being killed off by ECONOMICS. You can't keep demanding high wages when your competition is being paid the Global Mean Wage (about $2/hr). Unions have priced themselves out of a job, and the American consumer has enthusiastically supported that economic model. Therefore there is no other major cause, and therefore there is no other major outcome except the collapse of the private-sector unions in the United States. This isn't an opinion; it's objective fact. Fuck, it's history at this point.

"People like Peterson claim they want to give you a high quality life style when they really want to give a Chinese low wage life style."

So? It doesn't matter what Peterson and his ilk claim. All that matters is what ECONOMICS achieves. And economics ensures that the Global Mean Wage will win, at least while the cheap petroleum is still flowing (i.e. for the next 20 years). 150 million working Americans can't keep earning high wages (median $16/hr) while billions of other people throughout the world (largely in China and India) are willing and able to do the same work for $2/hr. The Global Mean Wage will rise a tiny bit, to maybe $3/hr, but the American mean wage will fall to that amount. It's not an opinion; IT'S MATH. It's called "weighed averaging".

I have a serious question now... why can't Liberals do math? Is Liberal ideology so strong that it overturns fundamental logic itself?

LOL

LOL, what's funny is the unions in Michigan turned toward tactics to try to prevent employees from leaving their unions like saying the only time to leave the union is in August. The employees are suing and winning.

Equally telling is the number of union employees in Michigan who stopped paying their union dues. LOL

MikeyA

Released from the threat of force, half of the union guys in Wisconsin left their union. That shows you how many people are being suppressed in unions. Unions as expressed today have nothing to do with liberty, and everything to do with tyranny. I say overturn all the union laws and let people unionize freely. That lets the employers ignore unions freely, or cooperate with unions freely. That was the design of this nation from the outset: Liberty.

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