Devil Baby Attack!

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http://www.freep.com/article/20140116/NEWS04/301160133/UAW-Vice-Presiden... This is what passes for leadership in the UAW. Why would you clean a gun that is loaded at the kitchen table? Something stinks here. Clean your guns while unloaded, that's just common sense and what most of us do.

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The man was checking the gun to see if it was safe to clean when the gun went off by accident. He had many guns, and kept them clean. He was trying to do the right thing and the gun went off. That's why it is called an accident! How many people are shot each year by accident with an "unloaded" gun every year?
And here you go again with the stereotyping. Because one UAW official accidentally shoots his wife, who, BTW, will recover fully, that means, in Fred-world, all UAW officials are homicidal maniacs. No prejudging there, much -- huh, Fred. By this logic, since Dick Cheney accidentally shot his buddy while hunting, all conservative oilmen would, in Fred-world, be homicidal maniacs, too! Nonsense, Fred!!

Fred, this article makes a good case against gun ownership. Statistically -- and I know how ideologues HATE statistics -- having a gun in the home makes it 22 times more likely that a gun will be used in a completed or attempted suicide, 7 more times more likely a gun will be used in a criminal assault or homicide, 4 times more likely that a gun will result in an unintentional death or injury; than it is likely that a gun will be used successfully in self defense. In simple terms, one's home is safer without a gun in it, than the home is with a gun in it. About 33% of U.S. households have guns in them, and about half of those households do NOT lock up their guns! BTW -- I found these statistics, dated April, 2013, on the USA Today website, the news and information bastion of that wild-eyed, bleeding heart liberal, Rupert Murdock.

I haven't iterated this recently, but here goes. I am IN FAVOR of Americans owning guns if they so choose. I have a son-in-law who is a card-carrying member of the National Rifle Association. His father did fire a gun, (licensed and registered), at a home invader, and sent that guy running away! The local police praised him, and so did I. But, I'm surprised, Fred, that you would lead the readers here to an article underlining the issue of how unsafe guns are in one's household. Rack up one more for better gun safety! Good job, Fred!!

I read the article. Still find it completely ignorant that anyone would sit down at the table with a person on either side of them without pointing the gun at the ground first and checking for rounds. Perhaps Mikey would know the proper handling of guns.

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of guns. But, too many people who have guns, don't take proper care of guns. And they won't listen to you or Mikey! In your article, the man was a longtime gun owner. He was trying to keep his many guns in proper working order. If an experienced gun owner screws up, what will happen when someone, perhaps frightened by news stories about crime, buys one or more guns, and has little or no experience with guns?

But, Fred, let's face facts. It seems that the main reason, if not the only reason, that you posted this, was to use the article to attack all union officials, or at least all UAW leaders, as irresponsible gunslingers. If this article were about, say, a radio talk show host, would you have posted it, and stated that this was proof of the how irrational and violent radio talk show hosts are?

I invite you to find one about a radio talk show host cleaning his gun at the kitchen table, shooting his wife, and then saying "I guess I pulled the trigger". or anything remotely that stupid.

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The point is, you use one incident to taint all union, or at least all UAW union leaders. AND you totally ignore the problem of guns in our homes killing and maiming many more innocent people than protecting innocent people from criminals. The most important and germane issue is the safe use and storage of the guns Americans have the constitutional right to own.

Now, if you committed a significant amount of air time to gun safety...oh, oh, but wait. You couldn't possibly do that! It wouldn't be good for ratings for a conservative talk show. And your handle says it all...FREDTHEENTERTAINER. I do wonder how much of the things you say and post are your true feelings, and how much are merely to reinforce an entertainment image and to boost ratings. We'll never know. Fred, even you may not know by now.

Everything is meant to increase ratings Dale. Everything. All of it. Each and every post. In fact we have spoken about gun safety on air numerous times with gun experts, and in fact carried a gun show for some time. But other than that everything I post or say on air is meant to increase ratings. I wish it worked better though, so far only you and DMHI listen on a regular basis. I'll keep trying though.

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dealt with gun safety.
I start my mornings watching "Mike and Mike" on ESPN2. I listen mostly to sports talk radio in my car; most often 97.1 out of Detroit.
BTW -- Having family of my own in show biz, I wish you nothing but the best. I know that it's a highly competitive field, and it is a tough way to make a living. Anyone who believes that you do nothing to prepare, and you only work the hours that you're on the air, is delusional. Thank you for stating honestly that your positions are all about ratings. I suspected that was the case.

Yep every last one of them Dale, all about ratings....that's the ticket. And I've seen Morgan Fairchild, naked.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Now, I'm impressed!

"Having family of my own in show biz, I wish you nothing but the best. I know that it's a highly competitive field, and it is a tough way to make a living."

Were you one of the Von Trapp Family Singers?

MikeyA

grew up in Toledo, until her family moved to SoCal around 1961. My parents bought their Old Orchard home from them when they moved. Corey's older sister, Mindy, was in the first group of the "New" Mouseketeers. His uncle has been in show business most of his adult life, mostly as a promoter and agent. His father, Bob, to whom I am only formerly related through a marriage to my cousin which ended in divorce many years ago, was also a performer, then became an agent. Bob was a good musician and singer in his youth, and played with various bands in SoCal.

I could sing "Melancholy Baby" for you, though.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

This is a good example from DMHI about gun safety. Cheney was actually out hunting, so there is an expectation of the gun being loaded and being fired. The union guy in the story I posted was at his kitchen table so there is no expectation of the gun being either loaded or fired. Thanks to DMHI for supporting my argument that the guy was a moron. Cheney doesn't get off the hook on this either though. You have to be careful when handling a gun around others.
DMHI does make the classic liberal mistake though in thinking that pointing out an example of someone else's poor judgment somehow erases or diminishes someone else's poor judgment.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

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