12,000 Attend Lansing Right-to-Work Protest


12,000 attended the Lansing Michigan Right-to-Work protest. Braving 20 degree weather throngs of angry union protesters swarm the two block capital area for an all day show of solidarity. Right-to-Work advocate Americans for Prosperity set up huge lavish, what appeared, catered tents among the planned protest. Republican AFP staff (about twenty) egged on the union protesters with their heated well fed extravagance till the peaceful protesters had enough. The tents came down as the AFP staff ran for the safety of the nearby riot squad. This observer personally warned the state police beforehand that having tents so close to the 12,000 was asking for trouble. In retrospect it seems a calculated right wing media stunt to focus attention away from the RTW legislation and their promoters. http://youtu.be/GtbWbw66KrI

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So what happened, did the union win?

Lansing restauranteurs where ecstatic by the union wages spent in their establishments. One business owner I talked to was outspoken in his disdain for "Tricky" Rick Snyder. He wished the protesters the best and thanked the union workers for supporting and buying from local businesses.

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breathers.
In fact, I'd bet that no one felt any unease at all with all those screaming, vulgar, sots acting as if they were just released from an Iranian prison.

And, when these job killing doped up, drunken, thieving, criminals left the State Capitol,I'm certain that they left the beautiful lawns as clean as a whistle !!!

Q: WHAT KIND OF PACK OF HYENA'S AND JACKALS DO YOU LIBERAL JOB KILLERS RUN WITH ?
A: APES, MONKEYS, and TRAINED SEALS !!!

I did fall out of my chair laughing at these sub humans.......

"Republican AFP staff (about twenty) egged on the union protesters till the peaceful protesters had enough. The tents came down as the AFP staff ran for the safety of the nearby riot squad. This observer warned the state police beforehand that having tents so close to the 12,000 was asking for trouble."

Perhaps your time would have been better spent convincing your "brothers and sisters" not to commit vandalism.

Or...perhaps maybe stopping another peaceful protestor from perpetrating an assault.

Thank you for the video Clem. As I said AFP agitators were egging on from their heated "catered" posh tents. The tents were located far too close to the 12,000 protesters. This is what the state of Michigan can look forward to in the coming months. When outside monied agitators come into our state, Michiganders will speak up to the 1%! Again this was a FOX NEWS extravaganza!

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The union workers will be prosecuted. Yes the video is edited but especially at the end you see Mr. Crowder walking away and being attacked from behind.

It really doesn't matter if the tents were heated, posh, catered, or "too close" for someone elses liking it does not legitimize an attack from behind.

MikeyA

When you lose everything the law takes a back seat Mikey. Union workers have long seen this country not run for the majority. They see monied oligarchs controlling liberty and concentrating wealth up away from them. The governor is playing with fire. Michigan is the last stand in many working people's eyes. In the minds of many if you lose everything then three squares and a heated room is not so bad. I know what some of these people are thinking...good luck Mr Governor!

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What did they lose?

Really nothing changed. If the unions provide a good enough service to their workers the workers will gladly accept being a member.

"When you lose everything the law takes a back seat." So since you've lost nothing the law does not take a back seat now does it. You might want to tell those in the video to prepare their legal defense fund.

MikeyA

Again Mikey turn off the extreme right wing media! This is not about union service to their workers its about the M-O-N-E-Y! Power and control by the few over the majority.

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Exactly, control of those few workers who don't want union representation.

No media here except for CNN.com today. How right wing of me.

MikeyA

in real American's, net worth under Obbammy.

And, a puke like you wants more economic terrorism and tyranny !?
Russia=1917 Germany =1935 AmeriKa=2008....

of their net worth since you voted for Obozo !

Your drunken , doped up, thieving, lying, property damaging unionized brethren have lost a portion of that too !?

And, as stupid as you are and post, you probably haven't noticed the ASSAULT on the middle class with the SKYROCKETING costs of gas, food, energy, and everything since you voted for Obbammy !

You are about 38 kinds of stupid...we all notice, you haven't the capability to !!!

You do not have the numbers to fight that !
I'd love to see rioting by your kind.Real easy to spot-you all wear stupid caps, with innane logos /decals on them !!!

THINK: brontosaurus....

You do not have the numbers to fight against real American's.
Plus, there are MILLIONS waiting to replace you cogs !!!

You're welcome wolf.

Now tell me...since you brought up "monied outside agitators", just how many of those 12,000 protesters were brought in from out of state?

Fox News Steven Crowder & Americans for Prosperity use Breitbart-style film editing to show “union thug brutality” (updated)
http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/12/fox-news-steven-crowder-americans-for...

Great acting by Crowder! Its my opinion anyone with half a brain can see that Crowder's body of work is in agitating and comedy! This is what he does and he's good at it! Review his you tube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/stevencrowder

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WOW! I have to say I've read many of your posts with a slight smile at the ignorance displayed in many of them, but this one is your ultimate deception of yourself. The video clearly shows union members forcing the tent down and later pictures on the internet show union members cutting it up while it lays flat to pass out pieces as souveniers.
The fact that a union asshole tells everyone to get out is supposed to make us believe they were concerned with someone's safety? That's laughable. The AFP had as much right as anyone else to be on the Capitol grounds that day and were exercising their free speech rights as was the union. The difference?, the union resorted to violence.
The guy yelling about the gun is clearly a union member, you can see the embroidered insignia on his jacket and his name is clear on the other side. He is standing with the union members not inside the tent as an AFP member would be.
The guy who throws the punch was getting up from the ground because he was pushed by the union members behind him and fell against a peg. You video ignores the chants of 'tear it down, tear it down" that came before the union decided to attack.
My eyes don't lie to me. I can watch the union guys force the tent down, there is no argument about that at all, nor any argument about punches being thrown by union assholes. It doesn't matter if the first part was filmed minutes or hours before the punch was thrown.....the punch was thrown!!!
Some of your post have been ignorant over the years, this one is not just ignorant but blatantly misleading, full of misinformation, lies, and complete distortion of video facts. Even a high school educated slug who works only three hours a day can see that.

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http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/11/video-union-members-tear-down-afp-...

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/12/Lansing-Union-Attack-...

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Mr. Crowder was clearly attacked from behind at one point.

Nothing justifies that.

In fact even where he is gettng repeatedly punched by the union member if you watch Mr. Crowder's actions they are all defensive in nature. I'm sorry but that is not a product of editing. That is only a product of union aggression.

You disagree, post something that actually proves he provoked the attack OR edited the video in a dishonest way. Note: post a fact, not an opinion page editorial this time.

And fred is right. Despite what eclectablog writes it was a union member who attempts to take down the tent not the AFP. You can see the union insignia.

MikeyA

12,000 dopers
12,000 drug addicts
12,000 thieves
12,000 criminals who damage their employers property.
12,000 thugs
12,000 "workers" who couldn't do a Honda's employees productivity in twice the time.
12,000 slaves doing the bidding of their Masta
12,000 citizens who aren't worth a combined bucket of spit !

So?

12,000 (many, if not most, from beyond Michigan's borders) now know how the majority of Americans opposed to so-called 'bamacare - feel.

Except that BO-care was shoved down our throats, against the wishes of the MAJORITY of U.S. citizens... and questionable tactics such as so-called "reconciliation" were used to illegitimately pass that GIFT to the insurance companies.

In Michigan, in stark contrast, these lawmakers know that the majority of Michiganders will back them up on this.

Personally, I couldn't care less that a bunch of out-of-state union thugs come in to demonstrate against a law they don't like. Boo - uh - hoo.

FG I can believe it. I can easily see 12,000 union workers abandoning their jobs and schools to protest. I can even see them putting in to be paid for the time because they were doing "union work".

MikeyA

Mikey your mind is increasingly made of mush! Those Fox News talking points are a little old don't you think?

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Instead of insulting him and blaming fox why don't you prove him wrong.

Unions-the last remnants of pure communism in America.

Fox’s Crowder Started Fight; Pushed Union Protester, Gets Beat Down!
http://aattp.org/video-foxs-crowder-started-fight-pushed-union-protester...

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Right-to-work vs. Big Labor: Crowder debates union supporter
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2012/12/13/right-work-vs-big-labor...

Start at 6:40 mark

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LOL

LOL Again you posted an opinion. This is the OPINION of a union supporter. That is why your posts are a joke. You dismiss facts and use opinion to attempt to prove yourself right.

MikeyA

Anytime Americans win their freedom--it's a great day.

How many of the UAW slugs will actually write a check to pay for their dues? Finally, the union management will experience the frustration of having to deal with these losers--like the company has. I'm thinking there will be more beer money for lunch breaks!

Shades of Red Skelton, Jackie Gleason, Jonathon Winters.

Reality based humor is sweet....humor about unions getting lumped up is sweeter.

So did the union get what they wanted or not? Did right to work pass and get signed in Michigan? YES YES YES AND YES The poor turnout of 12,000 did nothing to sway duly elected officials from doing the people's business. Yes I said poor. The state of Michigan has a population of 9 million, and only 12,000 showed up? Do the Math. Here's a fun fact-In 2011, the number of workers belonging to a union in Michigan was 671,000, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Regional Commissioner Charlene Peiffer noted that union members accounted for 17.5 percent of wage and salary workers in Michigan in 2011 compared to 16.5 percent a year earlier. At its peak in 1989, the first year state data were available, Michigan’s union membership rate was 26.0 percent. So that means that of the available 671,000 union members only 12,000 showed up to support their brothers and sisters meaning 1.78% ahahahahaha

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What the HELL are you blathering about Fred? 12,000 is a damn respectable turnout! The estimates were to be about 8,000. Most of Michigan is working Mr. Entertainer. We all don't have a three (3) hour job! Fred, the last "What about Don" rally you held at city hall I believe there were only seven people including your bobbling self! So who has the bigger support? How bout some self depredation. You keep asking the same asinine question about, "did they get what they wanted". Seems you're the only one who still doesn't have an answer to that ignorant question.

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Using your logic about attendance the 7 people who showed up for what you refer to as the "what about don" rally exceeded my expectations by 200%. Estimates were for two to four people to show up so the fact that 7 did is to be celebrated. Of course we weren't there fighting for our rights, and to save the middle class etc etc like the unions in Lansing, and of course we didn't have the extensive media coverage from tv, radio, and newspaper that the protest in Lansing received. But hey, if you are happy with 12,000 out of a possible 671,000 (not counting Ohio union membership) then I'm happy for you. And when you get a moment can you explain self depredation because I don't know if you mean self deprecation, defecation, deprivation, deception or something else. Thanks.

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What college did you attend ?

The College of Job Killers/Net worth Killer/Home value killers of psychotic America, haters ?
Or, the Institute For Maoist Fascism & Union Criminality !?

I'd bet your GPA was quite high in the criminality committing classes, theft from employes classes,and the Lie Like Prince Machiavelli classes !

What was your grade in tent tearing apart, scaring Old Ladies & children, who feared for their lives from masked goons ?!
A+ ?

I think the reason for the poor union turnout is that the wages they were paying for attendance didn't make it worth the other 98% climbing off their barstools.

The reporter who got punched, repeatedly, has just challenged the punk with the stupid looking hat to duke it out---one on one. I'd pay to see that.

Little judgmental are we? Most were dressed for a long day in the weather. The Gucci crowd were warming themselves in the heated "wedding" tent. None of us were afforded a Koch Brothers tent!

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The hatered that the 82.5% of the workers who AREN'T MARXIST has toward you Union hack morons is boiling over.

Wolfboy, you should move to Ohio. We don't want your kind in Michigan any more.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Do you have to be in a union to be "middle class"? Who knew?

No. The unions are part of what I call the "Golden Class". The top 10% of wage earners in the nation. It might actually be the top 20%, but I'm playing on that stupid "1%" movement's brand recognition.

The unionists are just the worst sort of Marxist; they are in this for themselves and themselves only. They know their wages, benefits and pensions are really unpayable in the long run, so they make all this noise to scare the rest of us into either supporting them, or staying out of the way.

What's happening in Michigan really isn't enough. Full RTW needs to be passed, for all workers, not just the government employees.

Why aren't union officials and members celebrating the fact the right to work passed? Surely this would give them the opportunity to prove to the entire nation what a wonderful construct the union is and how it is such a wonderful thing for a group of people to collected an artificially high wage for work producing goods and services for the consumer. The consumer who absorbs those artificially high wages in the products they consume. The unsustainable high wage and benefit packages demanded by unions has come home to roost. The slow bleed on the economy is not the fault of the rich or unions, it is the rich and unions. The greed and the fighting are all smoke and mirrors to a devalued dollar, an open world market to trade and a leveling of the world economy. The government would never own this. It is easier to throw meat to a group or dogs. Feed the rich to the middle class. Feed the union to the mob. and the debt keeps rising while the dollar falls.

As far as the reporter, since when is it acceptable to suppress free speech in the US?
Free speech works both ways. When you don't like what a person says or their opinion, either support your position on the argument or don't. Assault, even on the smallest scale is unacceptable and should be followed by prosecution for the crime. Or do we let this one go and wait for the escalation of violence in the future?

As more and more of the real facts of Fox News RTW tent scandal become known its looking more to be a staged event. Seems the UTube provocateur Steven Crowder is not a regular Fox Reporter. What has been reported is that he runs a Youtube right wing channel. http://www.youtube.com/user/StevenCrowder This whole story is filled with misleading edited video to tarnish unions.

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and rabid mind, you're probably winning !

Last one to post before 1:00 A.M.,tonight ... WINS !!!!!!!!!!!!

Your post lacks logic.

"more of the real facts of Fox News RTW tent" So it's a Fox News tent.

"Steven Crowder is not a regular Fox Reporter" Or is it?

"This whole story is filled with misleading edited video to tarnish unions." The only person who's story is misleading is yours.

Was it a FoxNews tent or was it not? If the tent being taken down was staged where is something to back up your claim or is this another Mrs. Wilson case?

MikeyA

Yes let's hear the real facts about a union man slugging Crowder, and the union guy who reaches across and grabs him from behind by the collar. that's some editing job. these assholes tore down a tent because they were assholes no other reason. if you have facts to back up your stupid ass claim about edited video and real facts let's see them. include them in the facts you have about my getting you banned from TT.

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You'll notice in my earlier post I responded that the video was clearly edited yet their was a clear attack from behind.

Wolfman then began to rant about how laws take a back seat when you lose "EVERYTHING" and continued to accuse me of being biased by "right wing media".

Now one could argue that the guy grabbing from behind is a plant, but only prosecution of the attackers would pull that out as well as the unedited video. Wolfman is against the prosecution because they lost EVERYTHING.

So what we learn is that it is wolfman who has let opinion cloud his judgement and refuses to even allow the FACTS to come to light.

MikeyA

The above high school educated WSPD shock jock is showing his ignorant colors. His vile verbal thuggery is evident in his above post. Civility is not a virtue at the extreme radio station. Watching provocateur edited video is not proof of anything but ignorance of the viewer. The ignorant host titillates his foolish followers to listen to propaganda hyperbole. CCO obviously has no employee code or handbook for which their extreme employees can follow. The use of profanity will not sway your ignorant negative message. The whole event was staged by the extreme right wing. Many union workers were warned earlier at the Lansing Center about Americans for Prosperity's intended media trap. But many did not see the early warnings from the Center. Who gave the authorization for AFP to locate these huge media gotcha traps within 150 feet of the Capital's main entrance? Fred you were not there...I was. I'm telling you the video is edited for maximum right wing extravaganza!

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I just saw a video where these union scum, busted up a black mans hot dog stand in front of the George Romney building, and roughed the old man up !
Added to that were racial slurs such as "Uncle Tom ", and of course" nigger".

Yes indeed there canineman, you run with some real vulgar and knuckle dragging fellow travelers in the Pure Union World of Hate !

The really peculiar thing about it is, you scum are criminals in Nature and cannot escape it !

You jackasses won't get much pity from real American's, at all.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2515746#.UMkQZI45QQK

Leave it to the unions to be caring and understanding people.

Those weren't union hot dogs. When you lose EVERYTHING the law takes a back seat.... DON'T YOU KNOW THAT!

MikeyA

Detroit Free Press
Editorial: Drinking the Kochs' Kool-Aid
http://www.freep.com/article/20121211/OPINION01/312110048/Editorial-Drin...

Quote:
"Certainly, there are a large number of Michigan legislators who are beholden to Americans for Prosperity, or the Koch brothers. Word is the groups threatened Senate Majority Leader Randy Richardville's leadership post, and promised him a primary challenge in 2014, if he refused to move right-to-work forward."

WOW! Sounds like some political corruption here!

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You do realize this is an opinion piece and not a news piece. That means that which is in it is not a fact.

MikeyA

Freddy Boo Boo was making a big stink yesterday morning about a hotdog vendor at that protest getting beat up and having his tent burned down. Does anyone know if this guy filed a police report?

A police report has been filed with Michigan State Police. Ball is now in their court.

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It makes me laugh at you every time you type your typical rants.
I can just picture you sitting in your mommy's basement, foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog, typing crap that everyone makes fun of.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Wolfman caught again.

Steven Crowder released the unedited version of the video, complete with timed side by side to show who was really tearing down the tent and who was the aggressors.

In it you can see that Crowder was not the agressor and the "pushed" individual had been following Crowder for a good deal prior to the attack.

MikeyA

Probably not, but it wouldn't be the first time Wolfman has been caught lying like a dog. One of the other times I remember required him BY COURT ORDER to retract his lies publicly.

The LIES of Wolfie are PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE and laugh at.

Meanwhile, Fredrick the Entertainer GETS PAID for his opinion and Wolfie GETS SUED for his "opinion".

What a lying sac-o-$(*&

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Apparently much of this was shot on a Hollywood back lot in front of a green screen shot of the Capitol building in Lansing, Mi. Wouldn't be too hard to do, it's how they did the moon shot right Wolfman?

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5:50 mark protester was shoved to the ground by Right Wing provocateur. The protester gathers himself (off the ground) and attacks the apparent assailant. The cut and pasted video was done by what appears an anti union agitator, his voice can be heard making anti union remarks. Crowder's agitating voice mysteriously is not heard throughout this video. We know from his many YouTube videos that he loves to agitate for the gotcha video moment. http://www.youtube.com/user/stevencrowder

Overall this proves nothing. I was there none of you Fox News quarterbacks seen the event from the ground. Fred's theory of a green screen may not be far from the truth considering the amount of time that has elapsed from the event. Seems strange that the only films are from right wing extremists. The facts are this was the largest protest ever recorded at the Michigan capital. The Americans for Prosperity white "wedding" tents were located far to close to the capital entrance thus blocking space for the protest. Only a few paid right wing extremists were in these tents agitating the crowds. In my opinion it was planned, it was a media event to neutralize the message. The ALEC http://billmoyers.com/2012/12/11/how-michigans-right-to-work-law-came-to... plan to control employees with RTW throughout the country state by state is on schedule. Wages and benefits will fall for all workers, union and non-union. The southern non-union auto workers will find that the loss of the UAW lobby will be a loss for them as competition reduces their wages to that of minimum wage. Already Gov Snyder has seen his poll numbers drop from RTW. The people of Michigan do not want this. Most voters were confused by the multiple number of ballot initiatives (plus the slick ads) on the November election but every indication is,now, Michigan does not favor RTW.

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Did you even watch the video?

"5:50 mark protester was shoved to the ground by Right Wing provocateur." That is not what it shows.

At 5:47 you can clearly see there is an individual between Crowder and the Union agitator. That person is not identified by either side. The camera pans to the right taking all three out of view and you see the Union agitator fall to the ground, possibly pushed but if pushed the person pushing is not identified. Plus Crowder at 5:51 stands with his hands up in a defensive pose and his back to the individual on the ground.

"The cut and pasted video was done by what appears an anti union agitator," The part showing the tent and the fight is not "cut and pasted" it is a continuous shot in sync with another video and the marks where they display different angles of the same events prove it's not edited. To edit two different videos in sync and keep it seemless is impossible.

"Crowder's agitating voice mysteriously is not heard throughout this video." Wrong. It is heard at several points and drowned out by union chanting/yelling at others.

"We know from his many YouTube videos that he loves to agitate for the gotcha video moment." Please point out where he is agitating in this or another video of this event? Everything in this video does not show Crowder agitating. It does however show multiple union members both agitating and attacking.

"Overall this proves nothing. I was there none of you Fox News quarterbacks seen the event from the ground." So what you're saying is who are we going to believe you or our own eyes. Seriously? Your point of view is clearly biased. This tape shows an unedited perspective of the events. It proves that what you posted previously was either grossly wrong or a blatant lie.

"Fred's theory of a green screen may not be far from the truth considering the amount of time that has elapsed from the event." And missles blew up the WTC.

"Seems strange that the only films are from right wing extremists." Key word being "films" they taped it from multiple angles. I do find it suspicious that the union members wouldn't tape their point of view if they were clearly not the aggressors.

" Only a few paid right wing extremists were in these tents agitating the crowds." Where is your proof they were paid?

"The people of Michigan do not want this." They had a chance to prevent it and by an almost 20 point margin defeated it.

"Most voters were confused by the multiple number of ballot initiatives" Ok, go with that. Over 2.9 million people confused? Compared to 2.5 mil who voted for the President, were they confused as well? And the difference in spending for anti-Prop 2 groups to pro-Prop 2 groups was only 4 million.

MikeyA

My God have you really lossed all touch with reality. The only reason people respond to your posts is to correct your lies and progressive misinformation, otherwise you are not relevant. Another example above.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Kind of like when you were a kid and poked a pill bug with a stick.

It's amusing to poke Wolfie and watch him curl up then scramble to call names or post a link to some MoveOn.org or Warren Buffett supplied website to try and have his masters explain why he is supposed to make sense.

Responding to Wolfie's posts is like holding a magnifying glass over an ant hill. It's fun in primitive sort of way and amusing for a little while.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Apparently there was more than one liar in the union camp that day. I do find it curous the with all the cameras and phones around there is not one pic or video of Crowder either pushing that guy or anyone from AFP cutting any straps. And hell if you wanted to you could edit tape to look like they did. But apparently only people with a high school education and a three hour radio show are smart enough to do that. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/15/Man-in-the-NRA-Cap-Re...

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