Teabagger Ted Nugent – Vietnam War Draft Dodger?

According to Progressive News Daily
Tough Guy, Gun-totin’ Anti-Obama, Teabagger Ted Nugent – Vietnam War Draft Dodger – defecated/urinated in pants 10 days – “I did not want to get my ass blown off in Vietnam” (Detroit Free Press interview published July 15, 1990). (MORE)
http://www.progressivenewsdaily.com/?p=28699

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If you are not able to complete for what you have committed then you should not make any promises to the public outside.

No fair! Wolfman get's all the first time posters!

MikeyA

they can use it against someone seemingly in an opposite political position ?!

Viet Nam: a war ran by liberal amateurs all to convince ignorant Americans, that they were for Freedom ?!
This as Liberals idiotically initiated it, wouldn't allow it to be prosecuted like the Generals wanted to ,and then pulled promised funding to the S.Vietnamese, as they were winning it, all to fund useless vote buying Welfare !?

When liberals prosecute a war, expect absolute failure...like losing Iraq, days after President Food Stamps,ran from it .
And, Afghanistan, losing more soldiers there in 3 years than President Bush, did in 7 ?!

Besides: Ted, was speaking metaphorically, not literally !
Another thing that confuses Liberals into writing stupid posts like this one...

Updated by msnbc.com staff at 1 p.m. PT: A Secret Service official confirms that the interview with Ted Nugent has been completed and that the issue has been resolved.

Nugent said in a statement after the meeting: "I met with two fine, professional Secret Service agents in OK today. Good, solid, professional meeting concluding that I have never made any threats of violence towards anyone. The meeting could not have gone better. I thanked them for their service, we shook hands and went about our business."

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Unless you were wearing gloves during that handshake, get yourself tested. Secret Service officers are worse than sailors.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

Yes, I get all of my news from Martin Bashir and Progressive News Daily. No two finer examples of journalism.

"Teabagger"--such an innovative and refreshing term!

The World According to Ted Nugent
Quotes and Stories from Ted's Writings and Interviews
http://www.nocompromise.org/news/000731c.html

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Nugget is like most right wing closet queers , all talk. Put them in the line of fire and they shit their pants. F'in draft dodger pounding is chest, now that is funny!

Prominent Republicans

Rush Limbaugh avoided the draft, school deferment and then medical deferment from pilonidal cyst on his a$$.
Dan Qualye was whisked into a National Guard company that was actually barred by law from leaving Indiana.
Representative Patrick McHenry, R-NC - did not serve.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-KY - did not serve (1)
Senate Assistant Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-MI - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Senate Republican Conference Chairman Jon Kyl, R-AZ - did not serve.
Senate Republican Conference Vice Chair John Cornyn, R-TX - did not serve.
National Republican Senatorial Committee Chair John Ensign, R-NV - did not serve.

House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-OH - did not serve.
House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-MO - did not serve.
House Republican Conerence Chair Adam Putnam, R-FL - did not serve.
House Republican Policy Committee Thaddeus McCotter, R-MI - did not serve.
National Republican Congressional Committee Chair Tom Cole, R-OK - did not serve.

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani - did not serve.
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney - did not serve in the military but did serve the Mormon Church on a 30-month mission to France.
Former Senator Fred Thompson - did not serve.
Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve (1). "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."
Former House Majority Whip Roy Blunt - did not serve
Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
Rick Santorum, R-PA, formerly third ranking Republican in the Senate - did not serve. (1)
George Felix Allen, former Republican Senator from Virginia - a supporter of Nixon and the Vietnam war, did not serve. (1)
GW Bush - decided that a six-year Nat'l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he's "been to war." Huh?
VP Cheney - several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, "had other priorities than military service") (1)
Former Att'y Gen. John Ashcroft - did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
Jeb Bush, Florida Governor - did not serve. (1)
Karl Rove - avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich - avoided the draft, did not serve
Former President Ronald Reagan - due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
"B-1" Bob Dornan - avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
Phil Gramm - avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments
Congressman Ron Paul - active duty flight surgeon from 1963-65; Air National Guard from 1965-68.
Duke Cunningham - nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations Recently entered plea bargain on felony charges of bribery, etc. etc.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

You have a few problems here with your list. First, you appear to make the assumption that all conservatives like or support or have ever supported many on that Republican list. Not true. Oh that Cheney, in particular had been forced to serve in Vietnam.

Secondly, it's a little immature to post a list of Republicans who draft dodged, and pretend that you don't ALREADY KNOW the names of prominent Democrat draft dodgers.

LIKE BILL CLINTON

who was president once upon a time - 'member him??????

Notorious amongst the liberal media is Lawrence O'Donnell - student deferment.... yeah go right ahead and google that... I already did. And that twerpy little draft dodger had the guts to accuse Herman Cain of draft dodging [which was not true]. Too bad Cain didn't realize at the time that a rank draft dodger was doing the accusing.

Thirdly, I have this suspicion that you have never served in the military. Have you? Apologies if you did, but I don't think so, especially not during Vietnam, becasue it was a Democratic prez who escalated Vietnam and sent thousands of young men to their deaths over there. I don't think you are Vietnam-era age, and therefore would never have had the experience of being subject to the draft. Because if you had been, you would know that young men of all ages and economic status sought to avoid Vietnam in droves. The lottery was started for the reason that a hue and cry arose during Vietnam, that the draft was basically only hitting lower income young men, and that most congressmen's and senator's sons were not serving.

Back in the time period 1968 to maybe 1973 or '74, I used to get stuck every summer (driving up north) following long long long lines of national guard troop convoys going up north on U.S. 23 for training. (Why they couldn't train in Ohio, I could never figure out.) Back then, guard troops didn't get sent on repeated deployments to war zones. Back then, joining the guard was a way to avoid Vietnam. Back then, I didn't know many who blamed young men for avoiding Vietnam. True, some joined up on purpose. But most did not. My brother was draft-eligible, right at the time they instituted the lottery. He got a sufficiently high number to avoid the draft. But I recall the gut wrenching anxiety among him and his friends.

All of which is to say - I get it that you hate Republicans and conservatives in general. That's politics and is certainly your right. But as to the Vietnam era in general - you don't appear to have a clue as to what you are talking about. And you are sort of intellectually dishonest on this topic.

Here's a more 2-sided look at the topic. The comment section, where some vets have commented is very interesting. Get an education.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-meyer/2012/04/17/msnbcs-martin-bash...

You have a few problems here with your list.

it's not HIS list. He didnt put it together. Never does. He spends his days reading his moonbat websites and copy/pastes what he sees. There have been umpteen times he's proven that he's not even completely READ everything he's posted.

Why waste your time argueing with that?

Still trying to figure out what dodging the draft has to do with Ted Nugent's comments.

Bill Clinton, one of your heroes- did not serve.
0bama, your messiah- does this count?
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"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

Always glad to see more info on this "stealth candidate" guy, who ascended to the Presidency largely by keeping his past a deep dark secret. Well, as Limbaugh says, he has a record now, and can't run away from it. And more and more real info on his past is making it past the liberal media censor machine.

That was a Halloween Party you dumbass!

Another home run jeep! keep em coming.....scroll up a bit^

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

2 honest questions for the op.

1. Do you think it's hypocritical for someone who did not serve in the military to start threads attacking others who did not serve?

2. Did you serve?

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

???
What a night...

Still waiting on answers..............
BTW, I googled, and apparently several of the o.p.'s heroes, namely, Ed Schultz, Bill Mahr, and Jon Stewart never served.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

Huh, we know the o.p has been here lately, he has posted more BS. Still won't answer 2 simple questions. Kinda speaks for itself doesn't it?

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

Remember the OP also stated previously that you were't patriotic if you owned an "American" vehicle like a foreign owned Jeep-Fiat.

So, even if Ted Nugent had served, if he owned a Toyota he's not a patriot.

MikeyA

Hmm, 5 days, still no answer. Glad I'm not holding my breath.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

I served and I think the OP is well within his right to criticize someone who tries to come off as the ultimate manly bad-ass, but went to such extremes to avoid going to war.

When your country calls, some men answer and others shit themselves. Ted Nugent chose option B, literally.

Well, thank you for your service and your opinion.
The thing is, the o.p. didn't only criticize Ted Nugent, he criticizes a whole list of Republicans/conservatives.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

A question is posed to wolfman and we get a first time poster. Interesting how that always seems to happen.

As I said in the other thread. No fair. Wolfman always gets all the first time posters.

MikeyA

LOL, it would be interesting to track the i.p. for wolfman, and this "new" poster.
It would be just his speed to pretend to be a veteran.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

You're right. He's lied publicly before.

MikeyA

Well, as expected I guess the lying coward isn't going to answer.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

Ted Nugent admits to illegal bear kill

Musician to pay $10,000 fine and make ads on responsible hunting.

Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2012/04/20/2433298/ted-nugent-admits-illegal-bear.htm...

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Still won't answer a couple of simple questions eh shithead?
I heard the law he violated was so new, and unknown that the judge whose jurisdiction it was in had no idea it even existed. Alaska wasn't the ones who wanted to prosecute him, it was the feds.
This happened right after he publicly endorsed Romney....what a coincidence.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

So JM you're saying that wolfman is a dodger too! A question dodger! Which is way worse because even a draft dodger could tell you why they did it.

MikeyA

See you're back to stalking me around on the internet. Doesn't the Marine Corp. give you enough to do all day? Sad.

Army, Marines could cut 150K troops
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64414.html

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

LOL troll. You're calling me a troll and you come in with accusations about people. And check out the time of my post it was after the working day was done dumbass.

Here's why your comment and the article is stupid: "The Marine Corps would no longer be able to maintain forward-deployed amphibious forces around the world." That means the Marine Corps could not remain expeditionary, which means there's no use for the Marine Corps. People have tried for years to get rid of the Marine Corps but the force allows for quick reaction anywhere on the globe the other services cannot do.

"leaving fewer warships and combat aircraft to project U.S. power around the world." and then it says "the Air Force would lose a third of its fighters." So cut 1/3rd of the aircraft and then have them responsible for 4x as much as they do now? First, their not currently equipped to do that so it would require a MASSIVE reequipment of fighters and bombers from the large number of cargo and personnel carriers they have so does it save? No. It actually would cost more.

This is nothing more than the early thinking of military force in the atomic age. Truman tried to do exactly that, one thing got in his way, North Korea invading South Korea ruined all his plans. It was a Harvard Professor who's work as the Study Director on the Nuclear Weapons and Foreign Policy, Henry Kissinger, who published a series of papers outlining why it's a flawed policy even in the atomic age. Plus the Korean War, Vietnam War, Somalia, Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan have shown that air power is ineffective without a robust and engaged ground force.

Most notable about your link is this from the article "Though the analysis was prepared without input from the Pentagon or committee Democrats, both Defense Secretary Leon Panetta". So you write an analysis on the military without input from military experts? Under that logic why don't you wolfman write a policy analysis on the effects of the internet on children in Uganda? I'm sure it will be riveting.

As I told you on Toledo Talk, which I've been a member of longer than you, you need to quit relying on Politico.com as a reliable source.

MikeyA

If I'm such a troll why don't you just answer the man's questions?

MikeyA

Ted Nugent says he's insulted by concert cancellation at Army post.
April 28, 2012
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/ted-nugent-says-hes-in...

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Why not answer JM's questions?

MikeyA

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