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Obama gives 2 billion dollars of our tax paying money to a Brazilian oil company to drill in deeper water than BP did. Oh! of course George Soros has a 900 million dollar investment there also. Hmmm.

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Hows everybody feel about this one..

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

How do you feel about this - BP had a spill. BP needs to clean it up....

THIRTEEN foreign nations have offered to help. Obama told them no thanks.

What if BP would welcome the help??

What does your response have to do with Obama sending our oil rigs over to Brazil and giving them 2 billion of our taxpayer dollars so they can drill in deeper water than BP did.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

OUR oil rigs? They belong to the government? The taxpayer? Or do they belong to private, publicly traded companies. You libertarians really don't get the whole our/their/private/public thing do ya?

I had heard up to 22 nations have offered help, including Belgium, Britain, Canada, China, Croatia, France, Germany, Ireland, Japan, Kenya, Mexico, the Netherlands, Qatar, Norway, Romania, Russia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, Vietnam and the UNITED NATIONS
Also "*Many offered their help through the International Maritime Organization, which is also sending notifications about the spill to its 169 member states."
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_542225.html

Now my question.
Is BP allowed to ask for the aid of foreign nations? In other words, would BP be overstepping the limitations of a private company to accept offers of foreign aid from foreign countries without the consent of the United States? Or is it up to the government of the United States to accept aid and help from another government?

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

George Soros will get even richer thanks to his buddy, bama, and if there are spills, who cares. And obama can say that our only alternative is green energy, now that the rigs are gone. win/win for those creeps.

This Green energy equals CAP AND TRADE which equals 7 dollar a gallon gas and double energy costs. Hows that for Hope and Change.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Obama did not give any money to Petrobras, the Export-Import Bank loaned the money. All loans issued by the Ex-Im Bank must be approved by the bank's board, and at the time of the loan the board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats. The board members in April 2009 were all Bush appointees.

In addition, Ex-Im Bank loans aren't made with taxpayer dollars. The bank is self-sustaining and doesn't cost us anything. Since 85% of the loans made through Ex-Im Bank support exports of US goods & services, it helps US businesses sell goods overseas.

Also, Soros Fund Management has a $300M stake in Petrobras. The fund sold 27M of its 37M shares in Petrobras by August 2009. SFM's interest in Petrobras was to make money on the difference between Petrobras's common and preferred shares, not because Obama was giving them billions.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

DTOM, do you feel stupid when someone else does your homework? I mean really, your dumb ass spouts off at the anus about anything anit-Obama without regard to truth, logic or the edification that comes with research and patience. You are everything that is wrong with your Republican party. You are just like that dumb ass Congressman from Texas who apologized to BP. Ignorant, self-centered, racist, stupid, arrogant, pseudo-Christian pussy who probably never served, never bothered to get a real education and never took the time to listen to another persons point of view. You suck!

You guys are everything we've come to expect from years of liberal indoctrination:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020386320457434661012052416...

The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil's state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil's planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan.

Oh no..it's not the oduma administration that approved these loans....oh no...it;s not Soros that will profit wildly at the expense of US taxpayers....

Oh no...the imp.ex bank isnt under the umbrella of turbo tax timmy and oduma's treasury dept...

Oh noes111!!!!!!1111

BTW...that 2 billion was INCREASED to 10 billion....

http://www.oilonline.com/News/NewsArticles/articleType/ArticleView/artic...

Soros speaks....liberals do his bidding...

Terrorists, socialists, illegals, billionares...all enjoy the support of liberal democrats...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Oh! Wolfie does it all the time, I haven't seen anything here from you concerning any regard to truth, logic or the edification that comes with research and patience when Wolfie posts his Democratic talking heads misinformation. You, sir are a hypocrite, your ignorance exposes you, have you researched it, no you’re taking Handbanana's word for it. Take your own advice and have regard for truth, logic, and do your own research, By the way, I consider myself a believer in the Constitution and what it stands for, and for political label purposes, I’m an Independent, and for educational purposes I have 4 years of college, and for point of view purposes I did read Handbanana’s post, and I welcome his point of view, whether right or wrong.
P.S. I have to keep in mind the indoctrination of that Hope and Change of Democrats, which alters the interpretation of the truth.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Read Zeitgeist post and go to the links, when you get back tell me how stupid you feel.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Pfft...useful idiots never realise it until it's too late for them...

The first thing Castro did after gaining power was to kill everyone who helped him gain that power...as they were a threat...

"Fidel Castro sought to oust liberals and democrats, such as José Miró Cardona and Manuel Urrutia Lleó. In February professor José Miró Cardona had to resign because of Castro's attacks. On February 16, 1959, Castro was sworn in as Prime Minister of Cuba. Professor Miró soon went into exile in the United States, and would later participate in the Bay of Pigs Invasion against Castro's form of government. President Manuel Urrutia Lleó wanted to restore elections, but Castro opposed free elections. Castro's slogan was "Revolution first, elections later".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Allow me to help:

Factcheck.org

Snopes

The link posted by Zippo was full of errors, which were corrected by Ex-Im Bank President Fred Hochberg three days later in the WSJ.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

LMAO....well gee..."fact check need to check it's facts...

The loan is 10 billion...not 2 as fact check STILL claims...

The "question" isnt what is asserted...her's the "qustion" they "fact check"

"Did Obama loan $2 billion to Brazil’s oil company to benefit China and George Soros?"

Misleading at best...

Did the imp-back loan 10 billion t petrobas?

Yes...it's a fact...

Will Soros profit from his investment in petrobas?

Yes.

Could Obama prohibit this loan if he wanted to by telling gietner to pull rank??

Yes.

Snopes isnt worthy of address...except that they STILL list the ammount as 2 bill instead of 10...if they cant even list the correct ammont...how is it a fact?...

The "claim" the suppossedly debunked is list as "mostly false"..not "completey false"

The claim they debunk is a strawman...that Obama signed an executive Order for the loan...he did not...no one HERE made such a claim either...

The snope "debunk" date is feb of 2010...

Hochberg IS an Obama appointee....what do you expect him to say?

Your editorial "Obama Underwrites Offshore Drilling" (Aug. 18) more correctly should have read, "Obama Underwrites U.S. Jobs." That's because the mandate of the Export-Import Bank of the U.S. (Ex-Im Bank) is to help create and sustain U.S. jobs by financing U.S. exports. Our offer to provide financing to Brazil's state-owned oil company Petrobras does exactly that.

That's what is behind our decision to offer at least $2 billion in loans or loan guarantees to help finance purchases of U.S. goods and services by Petrobras. This increases the likelihood that American—not foreign—
workers will be employed to satisfy part of the company's planned $175 billion investment during the next five years.

Ex-Im Bank does not make U.S. policy. In fact, our charter prohibits us from turning down financing for either nonfinancial or noncommercial reasons, except in rare circumstances including failure to meet our environmental standards.

We make no grants. The vast majority of our financing consists of guarantees of loans made by commercial lenders, not Ex-Im Bank direct loans. The foreign buyers that use Ex-Im Bank products pay us in full. Over the past 16 years the fees that we collect have netted American taxpayers more than $4.9 billion plus the jobs those exports have created. Thanks to the fees we charge, the bank is self-sustaining and does not receive any appropriated funds from Congress.

At a time when jobs, and exports, are more important than ever in helping our economy recover, Ex-Im Bank is achieving its mission to keep Americans working, and we're doing it without burdening the U.S. taxpayer.

Fred P. Hochberg

hochbergs letter is NOT a denial...it's an EXCUSE...

YES...we loan petrobas the money...but it's for american joba...

yeah yeah...only a liberal would believe that shit...

Note the still states the ammount is "at least" 2 billion when the correct amount is 10 billion...

So here are the FACTs as even your own sources state...

FACT: The imp-back is loaning billions to pretobas

FACT: soros still owns 10 million shares of petrobas.

FACT..the amount is not 2 billion but 10 billion

FACT: the imp ex back falls under the control of the treasury Dept.

FACT: Obam could stop this if he wanted to.

You can play the motive game all day long...but them's the facts jack.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

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