A 3rd choice. No impeachment
President Trump won't be impeached no matter how hard the Democrats try and lie. What I think is likely is that the Federal Reserve will continue to increase rates over the next four years, which will slow or reverse economic growth, coincidentally ruining Trump's first four years in office. Note that the Fed could have raised rates over the past eight years and failed to do so, which made the economy under Obama look a lot better than it actually is.
What Trump has failed to discuss (correct me if I'm wrong) is that providing a better economy relies heavily on creating a labor shortage, as well as preventing earned money from leaving the U.S. The latter is possible to a large extent through regulation and trade agreements; the former - not so much. Until we see the drastic shortage of labor, we won't see stable economic growth.
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almost 8 years now! Ridiculous!
Impeachment was never meant to be used as political retribution for partisan reasons. It was meant to be used in extreme circumstances ONLY!!
Remember, the Impeachment process is a two-step process. First, the U.S. House of Representatives must pass one or more resolutions of Impeachment. This is the equivalent of an indictment being issued by a grand jury. It means that, in the case of Impeachment, a simple majority of the members of the House of Representatives votes that they believe there is enough evidence that the person being charged should have to defend her/himself in a trial. In the case of an Impeachment, the jury in the trial is the U.S. Senate. In the case of a trial for removal of a sitting POTUS by the U.S. Senate, the Chief Justice of the United States, [often mislabeled as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court,] serves as the presiding judge in the trial. The Senate can only remove a POTUS from office with at least a 2/3 majority voting to do so. That's at least twice as many Senators voting guilty as those voting not guilty.
In the Bill Clinton Impeachment, the system worked exactly as the Founding Fathers envisioned. There is little doubt that the Articles of Impeachment which passed the U.S. House of Representatives, was done as political retribution against a POTUS who, may have been guilty of reprehensible morality demeaning both his marriage and his wife, but not guilty of, " treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors," as is stated in The Constitution, Article II, Section 4. And the Senate failed to remove Clinton from office.
Unless and until there is overwhelming evidence that Lyin' Don The Michelin Man who never met a burger he didn't like has broken a serious law, and would be found guilty of, "treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors ," the new POTUS will fill out his full term. While no POTUS has ever been removed from office in the long history of The United States, one came perilously close, and one resigned rather than stretch out the process which seemed to have a sense of inevitability about it.
Andrew Johnson was a southerner who succeeded to the Presidency when Lincoln was assassinated. He vetoed so many bills that the Congress really felt that he was an accidental POTUS who was acting as a traitor. Johnson was impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives, but the Senate failed to remove him by a one vote margin.
When Richard Nixon was facing the charges against him during the Impeachment deliberations then taking place in the House, and leading Republicans met with him to inform him that they would have to vote for his Impeachment in the House, and his removal from office in the Senate, Nixon resigned rather than draw out the process to its inevitable conclusion.
To me, the most serious issue facing Lyin' Don is his cosiness with Russia and its leader. Actions he takes as POTUS -- and we don't know for sure what those actions will be -- could be construed as traitorous. If enough Republicans become incensed about this, the Michelin Man who never met a burger he didn't like could be Impeached and removed from office. His overall slutiness, and his mysogyny are not impeachable offenses! In that fashion, his situation more closely parallels that of Bill Clinton, rather than that of Johnson or Nixon. Any attempt to Impeach Lyin' Don over these issues is not only doomed to fail, it would be a highly partisan attack against a political enemy -- plainly and simply! Now, if strong evidence comes forward that The Michelin Man who never met a burger he didn't like actually committed a crime, all bets are off on this angle. But, IMHO, such charges would have to have the public support of leading conservatives and Republican leaders before any Impeachment process would be seriously discussed.
Only time will tell.
Who was trying to impeach Obama?
If you do a search on Obama Impeachment, many, many articles pop up. As long ago as 2009, a liberal writer was writing that if the Republicans took over the U.S. House of Representatives, Obama would be impeached before the end of his second term.
Rush and other right-wing media have been consistently haranguing for his impeachment. They cite Benghazi, Obamacare, the Iran deal, his falsely identifying himself as a U.S. citizen by birth, his misuse of the FBI, IRS , and other agencies of the Executive Branch, and on, and on, and on!
Here are just three links: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/03/five-years-of-conservatives-call... and: http://northamericanlawcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/articles_of... and: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/21/republican-oklahoma-lawmakers...
Enjoy, Mikey! If you want more links, I can provide them.
Dale your links do not show what you claim.
As you previously cited articles of impeachment are drafted in the House of Representatives and brought to a vote. None of your citations reference any such articles.
The first is a collection of people who've suggested it but these are no more than hopes. None of them would have a hand even in the process. The second is a mock draft of potential articles the North American Law Center wrote, which also doesn't have a hand in the process and these articles were never adopted by any House Rep nor brought to a vote. The final one is a resolution adopted by the Oklahoma state legislature, again someone who has no hand in the process.
So, in conclusion, there is not one attempt at impeaching the President. There is an actual process to doing so and no one tried to.
"Who was trying to impeach Obama?" You did NOT ask, "Which member of Congress introduced resolutions of Impeachment?"
Conservatives were haranguing for Obama to be impeached even BEFORE he was sworn into office AND YOU KNOW IT, MIKEY!!!
I first stated that Presidential Impeachment was meant by the Founding Fathers to be used rarely. I then went on to state that ideologues from both extremes too often want to use Impeachment as a political tool to attack a POTUS with whom they disagree.
Mikey -- The difference between us is that I attack extremes of both the left and the right. You seem to be attempting to screen your right-wing compatriots and claim that only the extreme left wants to actually misuse the Impeachment process.
Here's another link for you, Mikey: http://time.com/3033757/poll-obama-impeached-third/
It shows that a clear majority, 57%, of ALL REPUBLICANS wanted Obama impeached!
So, Mikey, in answer to your actual question of, "Who was trying to impeach Obama," the answer is -- a clear majority of Republicans, that's who!
Only your last sentence gets to the point and it's wrong.
You REALLY like hearing yourself talk don't you.
You seem to enjoy trying to find fault with me and what I post, more than you appreciate the truth. That seems to be a real psychological problem for you, Mikey.
Try sticking to political arguments. You have political positions different than mine in most cases. Just state facts to support them! And when we do agree, don't be afraid to agree with me. I'm not afraid of agreeing with you!
Impeachment should be used very sparingly and not as a political tool to get back at someone who gets elected, and with whom one disagrees.
Yep! Loves hearing himself.
Look who's talking?
based upon facts, ATTACK!
DH doesn't understand the process of impeachment.
Anyone who wants Trump to be impeached, should want in one hand, defecate in the other, and get back to us with respect to which hand fills up first!
When it finally comes out and it will;
tax return shows ties with Russia = trumps campaign was in bed with Russia to swing the election = treason = impeachment.
It will come out. Whether trump gets impeached or not depends on if the conservatives in congress has the balls to step up and do it.
What is worse, getting a blow job in the oval office or betraying your country? hmm tough call.
Hope I didn't offend anyone!