Find a dog to love that is not a pit bull!


I am linking to two articles describing a fatal attack by two dogs on the friend of a college professor, in the owner's yard. The dogs are described as, "American bulldog mixes." Along with killing the woman, the dogs also bit their owner as he tried to protect his friend! Here are the links: and:

I am really sick of people who act as though anyone who wants to single out this one breed for special, negative attention hates dogs. I am really sick of people who claim that once this one breed, and mixes of that breed, is labeled, anyone who does so, wants ALL DOGS to be labeled as vicious. I can only speak for myself, but I love dogs. One of the first things my wife and I did once we saved enough money to have a down payment on a house, was to get a dog and fence in our yard. We got a second dog, because we knew that we'd both be gone at times, and we didn't want one dog to be left alone. We have two dogs right now!

Pit bulls have been bred over multiple generations to be vicious. There is no way to be certain that raising them in a caring, loving environment can reverse such long-term genetic engineering. Remember, the owner was bitten, too!

On a side bar, albeit an important side bar, the owner had a fairly significant amount of drugs on the premises. We do know that many drug dealers have vicious dogs, mainly pit bulls, in order to protect their stashes!

So, if you're not a drug dealer, what are you doing with a pit? Find another dog to love, PLEASE!! Such a choice may save your life, or that of someone you love! Yes. Other dogs attack people, too. But in 2015, the number of Americans killed by all dogs numbered 34. 28 of them were killed by pit bulls, or pit bull mixes! It's clear. We do not need pit bulls! Find another dog to love! Here's a link to an article with these facts:

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Yellow. There are no bad dogs only bad owners!

Hope I didn't offend anyone!

When I was ten years old I had a dog. The dog was mean as hell. The best thing that happened was someone ran over the dog.

Pit Bulls have been bred for dozens of generations to be vicious. I've heard that "It's the owners" song too many times before, too!
When 28 of 34 people killed by dogs in one year are killed by Pits, what exactly makes the owners of these Pits so much worse as dog owners than the owners of EVERY OTHER BREED IN AMERICA which only killed 6 Americans ALL YEAR??

Love a dog that is NOT a Pit Bull! It's not that hard to do! Our daughter's two dogs (one male, one female) are rescues, and one of our two dogs is a rescue (a female). All are sweet dogs. All get along great with her two children, our local grandchildren. There are LOTS of dogs out there that need loving homes with good people and good families. Avoiding Pit Bulls may save someone you love, or you yourself, from being maimed or killed!

On a similar note, I am concerned about walking our dogs, legally, on leashes, near homes with Pit Bulls. Pits have been known to jump fences and/or get out of homes, and maim and kill other dogs as well. If I know that someone in my neighborhood has a Pit, I may just be carrying to protect my wife, myself, and our dogs!

You are both full of shit. The dog whisperer, Ceser Millian says there are no bad dogs just bad owners. End of discussion. Don't make me have to reply to this thread again, kapish!

Hope I didn't offend anyone!

Innumerable "experts" disagree with Cesar Millian on many, many issues.
The statistics I site are not opinions. They are facts.
The facts are that there are thousands of breeds and mixes of dogs that do NOT include Pit Bulls. If you love your Pit, but cannot stomach the idea of loving another breed, you are putting yourself and others at unnecessary risk. I will pray for your continued good fortune.
And as far as replying to this or any thread, no one is forcing you to do so. You do so of your own free will.

I know that you are unmoved by facts on this issue, Donna, but for others, here is a link to an article that is admittedly from a site which finds Pit Bulls to be much more dangerous than are other breeds, but most of the information is factual. Here's the link:
It is interesting that the first myth to which it refers is this: Myth #1: It's the owner not the breed -- The outdated debate, "It's the owner, not the breed," has caused the pit bull problem to grow into a 30-year old problem. Designed to protect pit bull breeders and owners, the slogan ignores the genetic history of the breed and blames these horrific maulings -- inflicted by the pit bull's genetic "hold and shake" bite style -- on environmental factors. While environment plays a role in a pit bull's behavior, it is genetics that leaves pit bull victims with permanent and disfiguring injuries.
The pit bull's genetic traits are not in dispute. Many appellate courts agree that pit bulls pose a significant danger to society and can be regulated accordingly. Some of the genetic traits courts have identified include: unpredictability of aggression, tenacity ("gameness" the refusal to give up a fight), high pain tolerance and the pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style. According to forensic medical studies, similar injuries have only been found elsewhere on victims of shark attacks.
Purveyors of this myth also cannot account for the many instances in which pit bull owners and their family members are victimized by their pet dogs. From 2005 to 2015, pit bulls killed 232 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days. Of these deaths, 51% involved a family member and a household pit bull. Notably, in the first 8 months of 2011, nearly half of those killed by a pit bull was its owner. One victim was an "avid supporter" of Bad Rap, a recipient of Michael Vick's dogs.
BTW-- As with others who have posted here over many years now, I find that the use of profanity is often done by someone who feels as though (s)he is losing an argument, and/or as an attempt to intimidate those with whom they disagree on some issue. Using profanity often indicates that the person using such language has a weak argument, has a limited vocabulary, or both.

Never mind then, you stated fact , I stated opinion. You are correct. I recluse myself further from this discussion kapish?

Hope I didn't offend anyone!

But, never allow facts to get in the way of your opinions about Pit Bulls.
One last time, I urge you to find a different breed or mutt to love. It's better for your well-being and the well-being of those you hold dear.

Ask a veterinarian. It's the way they are raised. You don't "breed" a dog to be vicious.

"I feel like it's the only personality I have." ~ Jim Harbaugh

I will repeat the one source above (there are many) about the myths believed, and sometimes concocted, by pit bull supporters. Here it is:

If the breed doesn't matter -- remembering that pit bulls have now been bred for fighting by many, many people for dozens of generations now -- why is it that, in 2015, of the 34 Americans killed by dogs, 28 were killed by pit bulls or pit bull mixes. Only 6, as tragic as those deaths are, were killed BY ALL OTHER BREEDS COMBINED! I'm sorry that these facts do not meet with your gut feelings.
Here are some more of those pesky facts. The AKC recognizes nearly 200 breeds of dogs. The combination of mixed breeds is nearly infinitesimal! Please, for your safety and the safety of those you hold dear, fall in love with another breed of dog! We and our daughter and her husband have wonderful mixed breed rescue dogs. Ever since we bought a house back in 1974, my wife and I have had dogs as pets. We adopted our dogs before we even had children! We love dogs. We fear pit bulls.
Please be open-minded enough to read my entire posts above. I'm just trying to save lives and misery with this thread.

OMG, as a dog Lover myself I cannot understand how anyone Sir Dale can be so off base! This is another sermon by Sir Dale, where is your Pulpit besides in the Swamp?

from commenting on my posts. I respect Mikey and Chris because they most often argue facts. Post some facts which refute what I write, and I'll respect you, too!

All I am after on this thread is to save lives and misery.

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