Todd Grayson: Corporate Toadie, Koch-Sucker, Republican A-hole

Like most Republicans, Todd Grayson doesn't know when to shut his mouth (or shut off his computer and smartphone) when it comes to things like domestic violence and womens' rights.

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/clip/10563830/councilman-grayson-says-his-r...

""There was nothing remotely serious about it and if someone wants to take something that is completely absurd and treat it like it was serious then that is really their own problem," said Grayson. "'Do I regret making the comment?' No. I mean it was a joke on a friends page, and it was a joke that was so absurd that there is no possible way a rational person could have read it and thought that it wasn't anything other than a joke."

As far as those who see this and feel he owes an apology Grayson says they can choose not to vote for him.

"That will happen, you know people are people, people have different opinions. I don't feel bad for that," said Grayson. "I hope people learn, they come and understand it, I hope people reach out to me if they have a question. Happy to take any calls or emails and clarify anything that is confusing to anybody."

If you want to reach out to Grayson about his comment you can contact him at Perrysburg City Hall by email tgrayson@ci.perrysburg.oh.us or by phone at 419-872-8010. "

Good luck getting through, he's too busy with his little ALEC-spinoff group that works to bring legislation written directly by corporations right down to the local level to answer the phone or his email. Good thing he won't apologize or admit that he was stupid, so you don't even have to try.

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Very happy to have Todd as my guest this morning. As he stated yesterday to Ch 13 the comment is sarcasm and when taken in context with the statement that came before it is a commentary on the NFL response to the punishment of Ray Rice, not to the event itself.
I with it were as easy to reach out to aCOWARD about his stupid comments as it is to reach Todd, but alas it is not. Grayson at least has the balls to stand up and defend what he posts aCOWARD is not.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Internet and sarcasm don't mix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Grayson doesn't have the brains to know this and you're too busy obsessing about his balls to acknowledge it either, Fred LEFEEBLE.

Does he at least have a driver's license?

MikeyA

Thank God you're okay, Mikey. Hadn't seen a post from you in a while. I was worried you might turn up in an ISIS video.

Patience is a great virtue.

Thanks Don, I was limited in my time online for a few days.

As the late great Marty Robbins said "Don't Worry Bout Me".

The country I am in does not support ISIL and has been and continues to be at the forefront of confronting Islamic jihadists.

MikeyA

Fred maybe you can answer this for us ignorant of how the Tea Party works. Most of us know that Fred is a longtime member of Children of Liberty http://www.meetup.com/The-children-of-liberty/members/9865379/ a shadowy Sylvania Tea Party group. Yesterday The Toledo Tea Party held a meeting in preparation for the upcoming election. Did Todd hand out donuts at last night's meeting? Since Fred is kind of like the Tea Party Grand Dragon of Northwest Ohio http://toledoteaparty.com/radio-host-fred-lefebvre-speaking-for-tens-of-... and I'm sure attended last night's meeting is this true? If so did the Koch brothers donate the coffee and donuts?

Todd has an affiliation to another group hell bent on corporatizing our Democracy. It seems he is a founding member of a new network, the American City County Exchange (ACCE) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/alec-acce-lobby-local-tax-c... an offshoot of ALEC, the corporate-funded American Legislative Exchange Council http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

With knowing that Fred works for Bain radio http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/26/1095014/-Bain-Capital-and-Mitt-... and Todd is a founding member of a offshoot of ALEC http://www.alec.org/initiatives/acce/ do we really think these two are working grassroots?

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

I answered your question about the donuts in your other post, I direct you there now for the answer. As for working grassroots, I can't speak for Todd but I am fully funded by a shadowy arm of the Illuminati and the New World Order. All questions about funding should be directed to the directors of those two organizations. I am able to say where I get my funding because no one ever believes they actually exist so I have no fear of anyone tracking them down.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

What about that wildly painted Americans for Prosperity bus that frequents the WSPD parking lot in the early morns? I've heard you have a special relationship with the sponsors? http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/americans-for-prosperity-3/ Some wild eyed oligarch is said to be funding it. Did you go to any special initiation ceremony to be affiliated with them Fred?

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Apparently frequently in your world is once in the last few years, I feel for your wife. I've heard you have a special relationship with the sponsors - is not a question. And I did go through one initiation ritual but that was years ago as I am a life member.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Wow, Fred LEFEEBLE, if you want to make an attack on someone's sex life with their spouse in a thread about domestic violence "jokes"... didn't I see something about you getting a DIVORCE? Do you really REALLY want to open yourself up to all the comments by going there?

I give you this rare chance to walk back that comment, since in LEFEEBLE-land jokes and comments about domestic relations and domestic violence are okely-dokely and you would not be able to complain about any being used on you without confirming your status as Toledo's Biggest Windbag Hypocrite. I'd take it if I were you.

I'm not too concerned about what you say, I am divorced. No comments from you are anyone else here make much difference in that. I won't be walking back anything especially when called out by aCOWARD. If you were offered the chance you WOULD take it, precisely because you are aCOWARD.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Well then, since you're up for it.

From the Home Office in East Bumfark, Idaho, it's The Swampbubbles Show's
TOP TEN REASONS WHY FRED LEFEEBLE IS DIVORCED!

10) Following in the footsteps of right-wing idols (Rush Limbaugh for example).
9) Ex-wife not only had to listen to his fat ass at home but had to listen to him at work too, co-workers had WSPD on all the radios.
8) Ex-wife decided Andrew Z. was a classier act than Fred, left to chase after him.
7) Fred threw out all the CDs in the car and replaced them with "Best of Fred" podcasts, ex-wife furious when instead of Justin Bieber she got Fred's voice blasting at full volume.
6) Ex-wife looked at Fred's defense of Kochs and his idolizing Glenn Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, etc., put two and two together and left.
5) Ex-wife thought he had an online affair going, given the amount of time and hours he keeps on here and his other Internet hangouts.
4) Ex-wife got tired of cross-dressing as Ann Coulter to attempt to turn Fred on.
3) WSPD doesn't provide health insurance and Fred wouldn't get that socialist Obamacare, couldn't afford boner pills.
2) Duracell's ad buy with WSPD ran out, ex-wife couldn't even use him to score free batteries anymore to offset the disadvantages of being married to the loser.
1) One word: micropenis,

The motivational loser now living in a van down by the Maumee.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/4183

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

To be fair he would move into AC's mom's basement but it's already occupied.

That #Occupy movement has really gone into some dire straits.

MikeyA

I call bullshit, everyone knows you Republicans love the Illuminati but hate the New World Order, that is unless you really are a Koch-sucker instead of a Teabagger since the NWO wants to do away with America and implement a world government while the Illuminati just want to grab all the money.

No, they're working Astroturf, fake grass roots, which works well for all the low-information people they recruit.

Personally, I prefer my councilmen to not be assholes and for their day job to be an actual job, not working for a goddamn lobbyist group who take dictation from big corporations and turn that into laws for Congress, state legislatures, and now local city councils and township trustees and so on to enact.

It was clearly an off color joke and a groaner. The big deal is that he's a politician with higher aspirations than just P-burg city council and he wasn't smart enough to not post that shit on Facebook? Think about how many mental filters that had to go through and he still thought it was a good idea to post the joke on Facebook.

I'm never going to run for office and I don't post anything vaguely controversial under my own name here or anywhere. Why? Because if an employer does a search and the most popular Google result for my name is a Swamp Bubbles comment where I told one of my best "dead baby" jokes, I'm probably not going to get the job.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

Exactly. How's that old quote go about better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt?

it's obvious you don't know it

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/5/23/5744964/ray-rice-arrest-assault-st...

"Ray Rice spoke on May 23 for the first time since being arrested following an altercation with his then-fiancee, now-wife Janay Palmer in Atlantic City in February."

Oh, I see. She was his fiancee, then he knocked her the fuck out with a punch, then she married him.

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"Although Palmer indicated later that she did not want to go forward with prosecution, that didn't stop the state from following up."

Oh, I see.

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Yeah, she DID run into his fist. Or at least, she ran BACK to the fist. These sort of people deserve each other. The dumb, violent people.

Professional humorists are careful to pick the topics they skewer. It's hard to be funny. It's harder to be funny about something as serious as domestic violence. Mr. Grayson missed badly here, and he is paying the price. Freedom of speech also means the freedom of others to criticize that free speech.

Just because we have freedom of speech does not mean it's a good idea to open one's mouth.

But I guess while it's okay to criticize anything a LLLLiberal says, touching anything a Republican says is off-limits because it's "misunderstood" and "taken out of context" and so forth. We should leave the poor guy alone.

"It was clearly a joke. It was a joke made on my private page; on a private friend's page, as a comment...um...about an absurd situation. I stand behind it as a joke. It was clearly a joke to anybody who knows me. And, um, that's all it was."
http://www.13abc.com/clip/10562136/perrysburg-city-councilman-under-fire...

Hint to Mr. Grayson: No one's laughing!

Janay now says it's the media who is blowing this out of proportiion. She wants the media and people with opinions on her getting knocked out to mind our own business. Maybe she's right, maybe the next time Ray punches her we should all turn a blind eye to her abuse. It's sad that she is buying into that line of thinking. Having had a domestic abuse as a topic a number of times on the show over the years especially with Art Jones I can tell you this is typical of someone in her situation.. She takes part of the blame and puts the rest on someone else none on Ray the actual abuser.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Look at LEFEEBLE oh so slowly walking it back by pointing out how often the abused go Stockholm Syndrome and defend the abusers.

Fred I seem to remember before your public divorce record was expunged by court order it had a docket code entry on 7/5/2011 of Battered Woman with a $11 fee attached. Please explain? I think this would help us all understand your defense of Ray Rice.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Haahahahah that's what you remember? That's classic mrignorant. No proof of course just what you remember. You might want to point out where I defended Ray Rice also, because just saying it doesn't make it so.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

No proof because you got it expunged, you say?

Expunge is the removal of records, the records were never put in the public file because of my request to keep them private based on mrignorant's misuse of earlier filing. They were not expunged. I hope that clears it up for you.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Ah I get it now, you get to talk about everyone and their dirt on the radio including dragging your personal feuds off of internet forums onto the air, but you're too much of aCOWARD chickenshit lily-livered pussy-ass fat windbag bitch to cope with your life being dragged out so you had the courts seal your stuff up. Hypocrite much?

You are close. I asked politely for one poster to keep my ex wife's business off this forum as she doesn't post or use message boards, he was unable or unwilling to comply so I took the step to have the proceedings privately filed. Anyone who posts here freely is aware this is a public forum and can be discussed anywhere even radio, tv, or newspaper just like a facebook post (eg todd grayson) so your comparison lacks any real depth.
Now some people who wish to talk about everyone and dish dirt while using vulgarities would simply post and not use their real name, they'd use a screen name something like aCOWARD.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

There's two parties to a divorce filing, and you're one of them and YOU took the action to have it sealed. Don't make up BS about keeping your ex-wife's business off the Internet when you were merely looking out for yourself, Fred.

I'm pretty sure that's what I just said. that I requested it be privately filed. Did you not read that part?
Here it is again in case you didn't see it COWARD I took the step to have the proceedings privately filed.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Once upon a time there was a radio talk show host who worked for a blathering idiot general manager. The ignoramus radio manager mumbled incoherent nonsensical partisan gibberish for a paycheck. The morning shock jock and the afternoon ignoramus were in a contest of oneupsmanship. The GM insulted everyone in the Toledo area for ratings. Some of the area residents were outraged when they attempted to give balance to the insanity. So began the feud where one Wolfman fought the good fight. He was threatened with lawsuits, he was called a liar, he was hung up on, he was silenced on the WSPD facebook, the morning naysayer even complained to have his account deactivated at TT, His comments were spliced and diced and were even made into radio commercials. But through it all he is still here with his head held high while the blasphemers were either fired or ruined their personal lives for the evil life they have led.

AC this is an interesting thread, a similar thread was deleted (along with my account) at TT when MrEntertainer complained in Emails to TT.
http://swampbubbles.com/blogs/mrindependent/20120312/who-should-be-paid-...

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

You were called a liar, and I believe a court of law was the one making the call. I seem to remember you having to apologize on the message boards after being outed since you took your time complying with the ruling...

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AD: Yes I was called a liar for the use of the word "lost" no court was involved though. More a prank gone bad. Sorry that this subject has you distressed but unlike the local AM radio station many have opinions other than the Bain Radio Network. The former GM used his family to threaten me. The Wolfman had given the GM some well followed, well reasoned debate on the blogs. Some of which were printed in the Toledo Free Press. I've not shared all of this before but the Wolfman had filed complaints with corporate and the FCC which, I believe, escalated hostilities. In the end Wolfman did, I think, generate a legal bill for the former radio GM.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Don Wert says referring to oneself in the third person or as another persona is kinda strange. Don Wert told me that chronic use of this style of speech is cause for concern.

Patience is a great virtue.

I'd like to see Fred drag your' worthless ass on the air, assclown.

As I told you prior that fee is attached to every divorce in Lucas County. To insinuate that it means a person abused their spouse would mean 100% domestic abuse for every divorce. It is wrong and you were already warned. That also means that you put yourself out there on thin ice which will break if anymore weight is put on it. Good luck with that, you are alone on that front and rightfully so. To everyone else, be sure you know what you are talking about before you allege something or else you could end up paying for it.

Yes you did Chris. Hear me out. This discussion was about spousal abuse and maybe it did spiral down a rat hole. I did hear what you said but the question was directed at Mrentertainer who was giving his opinion on abuse. No formal names and no direct accusation was made. Unlike on his day job said Entertainer has earned an equal rigorous questioning when he attacks others. You know the history. As AC has pointed out before and I can see his point, for example, Mrentertainer had posted my personal Email address here on SB. To this date I believe it was never removed even after being flagged about two years ago. Just saying

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Oops!

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Not walking anything back aCOWARD merely repeating what Janay herself says and what experts say about it. I don't have anything to walk back.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Victims of abuse too often blame themselves and others instead of the abuser. Not being a psychologist, and never having played one on TV (or radio), I will not speculate about why a victim would do this. All I know is what Dr. Phil so often states, "You must be getting something out of it." I wonder what Janay is "getting out of it?"

when discussing the Ray Rice case:
"It's [domestic violence] one of the two most under-reported crimes in America. The other is sexual assault.'
"It can be very dangerous to leave an abusive relationship. There's more homicide when you leave an abusive relationship than when you stay."
"It permeates every level of society."

Now, Dr. Phil has a PhD in psychology. He IS an expert. Many of the above quotes were in answer to why Janay didn't or doesn't just up and leave, To paraphrase, Dr. Phil also stated that the abuser often isolates the person (s)he is abusing from family and friends. He stated that the abuser will often be at her/his worst in private, away from people and public places in general. This is all part of the psychological abuse which sets the stage for the physical abuse. And, as Fred stated, and I reiterated, the person being abused will most often try to direct blame away from the abuser, even taking blame her/himself instead.

No apology yet, Mr. Grayson?

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