How Many White People Have Had Trouble With White Cops?

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Back around 1970, a kid I went to school with, broke into Pier One, in Sylvania. He was shot in the back fleeing the scene, I believe, by a Sylvania cop. He was lucky, he lived. Back then, Sylvania was mainly White, as were the two PDs. Let's face it, I grew up in that area, and although most cops there were OK, there were a couple who fucked with people a lot. A police department is a perfect place for bullies to gravitate to. So, how many White People have been seriously fucked with, by White Cops?

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Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

I got pulled over once by a white officer for speeding and running a red, but he backed off, apologized and said he thought he'd been running down a black guy. I admonished him to be more observant in the future.

Patience is a great virtue.

The last times police officers pulled me over or spoke to me in the street, I didn't get into a fist fight with them, nor did I try to pull one of their guns.

Then again, I don't walk in the street like I just escaped from a zoo.

The police came to my house Thanksgiving Eve. and tried to kidnap my thirteen year old grandson because someone called them and told them his son was being held unlawfully.

Yes I'm sure kidnap is the proper way to describe that.

It was probably like the scene out of Fargo, one guy who talks a lot, one guy who doesn't. They had a car with dealer plates and they were going to throw him into the trunk.

How close am I?

MikeyA

Dillon Taylor.

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Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Same type of strategy Hitler and the Nazis used to take over Germany.

Actually, that strategy was called National Socialism. SOCIALISM. Bother to read a fucking book sometime, Zey.

as you believe yourself to be, you would know that the National Socialist movement was very nationalistic, and had little to do with socialism. Hitler's government sought, not to take over industries and run them, but to partner with industries as Mussolini has done in Italy. That is called fascism, not socialism.
In fact, the main strategy of Hitler's movement was to make themselves the alternative to the chaos of revolutionary socialism, or Communism. Hitler attacked the Communists and convinced a plurality of voters in the 1933 German elections that only he and his movement could protect Germany FROM a Communist takeover. There is strong evidence that the fire which burned the Reichstag Building in Berlin in 1933, which Hitler convinced most of the German people had been started by the communists, was, indeed, started by the Nazis. Hitler used the Reichstag fire to claim the need for German President Hindenburg, to give Hitler "extraordinary powers" to meet the crisis. Here's a quote from Hitler at the time, "Every Communist official must be shot. All Communist deputies must be hanged this very night. All friends of Communists must be locked up. And that goes for the Social Democrats and Reichsbanner as well!" The source for this information is thehistoryplace.com. Here's the link:http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/burns.htm

"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." Your post shows how shallow you are and how limited your education is, GZ aka Mr. Empty Glass. You see the word "Socialist" in a title, and you make unfounded assumptions about what that word meant in the 1930s! So, how do you feel about "Social Democrats" Mr. Empty Glass? Want to lock them all up? Who does that sound like to you?

The Nazis and communists were fighting over the same demographic....

Gregor Strassor Leader of the NSDAP (Nazi party) long before Hitler and he was very much a leftist, socialist, and anti capitalist...

Goebbles was also a left winger as was Ernst Rohm...

If you think for a second that the Nazi party didn't have a left wing then you are truly ignorant and you should hang your head in shame..

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

The Nazi Party was NOTHING before Hitler took the reins! And extremists on both the left and the right always share common goals.
ZG -- You are totally ignoring historical facts. The fear of Communism was used by Hitler, who put himself and his movement as the OPPOSITE of Communism, and the protector of the establishment. Did you even read the quote from Hitler I cited?
Sheesh!

Whatever you do, ZG, never, never, never allow facts to get in the way of your skewed opinions!

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

Want to bet whom that quote is from?

For claiming to be educated you sure are pretty damn ignorant.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

Want to bet whom that quote is from?

For claiming to be educated you sure are pretty damn ignorant.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Results of the March, 1933 elections. This is how the German people chose to vote:
Nazi------------------------------288 seats; 43.9% of votes cast.
Social Democrats------------120 seats; 18.3%.
Catholic Centre ---------------92 seats; 13.9%.
Communists--------------------81 seats; 12.3%.
German National Party-------52 seats; 8.0%.
German Democratic Party----5 seats; 0.9%.
Others------------------------------9 seats; 1.6%.
In simple terms, the Nazis appealed to a WHOLE LOT of Germans that were NOT attracted to the Communists. It really wasn't even close! The Nazis had more than twice as many seats as did the Social Democrats, the number 2 party in that election. And, if you read the Hitler quote, he wanted ALL the Social Democrats arrested and put in jail!!
ZG -- Keep it up! You're in the land of Egypt BIG TIME!!

No, as the history books clearly show, the National Socialist movement was very nationalistic AND was very socialistic. The NatSoc's had an extensive social reform platform. You Liberals keep 'forgetting' to remember that, since it's EXACTLY what you're trying to do to our society today.

The really funny thing is that a few of the NatSoc's reforms have ALREADY been incorporated into our most basic federal and state labor laws, and among the ranks of union rules. True, the total package of reforms was a mixed bag from anyone's point of view, but the key claim remains true: There were significant Socialist elements.

Have you ever considered getting a job as a centrifuge? You sure know how to spin.

Keep denying in the face of facts. That's what ideologues do. Never, never, never allow mere facts to get in the way of your vacuous opinions, Mr. Empty Glass! The only "social" programs the Nazis really pushed were to force parents to send their youths to indoctrination camps in school, after school, and on breaks from school.

Nazis and fascism:
Nationalism first, foremost, and always.
Patriotism first, foremost, and always.
Now, which current American political philosophy does this sound more like...liberal or conservative?

Mussolini was a life long socialist and leader of the Italian socialist party long before he embraced fascism...

And I would remind you that progressives were big fans of fascism...they admired it.

Perhaps you should save your BS for the high school crowd who never bother to look past the rhetoric of the leftists.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Ronald Reagan was a strong supporter of FDR and the New Deal. He changed. He evolved. As POTUS, Reagan tried to unravel nearly every New Deal program that was instituted under FDR, all of which Reagan had supported as a young man.
Mussolini was a socialist AT ONE TIME. Hitler proclaimed socialistic goals AT ONE TIME. Mussolini governed as a Fascist and pointed the way for Hitler to copy. Hitler, too, governed as a Fascist.
In order to better educate YOU, ZG, here is the definition of Fascism as it appears in the on-line yahoo dictionary:
1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalistic economy subject to stringent government controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
3. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

Centralization is the socialism they are referencing Dale.

For instance, you support centralization of the healthcare industry. That is socialization. The facists and national socialists were both forms of socialism.

MikeyA

The "centralization" in Fascism is mostly political. Economically, both Mussolini and Hitler left large factories in PRIVATE hands. Note the reference in the definition to "a capitalistic economy." Hitler and Mussolini made the government a partner with private enterprise, rather than having government take over factories and other businesses. Leaving businesses in private hands is NOT Socialism.

Obamacare also leaves the medical practice and the health insurance industry in PRIVATE hands. I do favor the way medicine is practiced in every other developed nation in the world EXCEPT here. If that is Socialist, that's me; not Obama.

Although we do recall that Hitler instructed Ferdinand Porsche to build a "people's car."

Patience is a great virtue.

Your argument is intellectually dishonest.

Obama wanted a centralized HC system. The problem is the country revolted and didn't like one party in charge. A 41st Senator was elected to stop Obamacare, elected from a blue state. So Obama couldn't continue the O-care debate.

His choice was pass what had already been passed up until that point or work a bipartisan deal. He passed what he considered an imperfect plan. Imperfect because it wasn't as centralized as he wanted.

So yes, Obama and you both are socialists. The Nazi's and the fascists were both socialists. Different types of socialists? Possibly, but socialists none-the-less.

MikeyA

So, you're saying that Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation are also Socialists, Heritage Foundation for it being THEIR idea and Romney for implementing it first.

Good to know, good to know. Since Romney is a Republican and you are a Republican, you voted for a Socialist, didn't you?

No AC. Mitt is an anti-Federalist.

A socialist wants the federal government to assume powers that are not granted in the constitution to the federal government.

Unless if I missed where healthcare was added to the constitution it is a power reserved for the states. Therefore each state has the ability to decide how it supports it's people.

Like I've said before, if 50 states want their own form of RomneyCare, I support that. What I don't support is expanding the federal powers into those areas reserved for the states.

MikeyA

And SCOTUS ruled that Obamacare is a tax and Congress has the power to tax, so your argument is invalid.

It does not invalidate my points.

Both I and Mitt Romney support repealing OCare and NOT centralizing our healthcare.

My Arguement: We are both Anti-Federalists and not Socialists. -Still Valid!

MikeyA

Your point is still valid.
I still say, if Republicans are so opposed to "centralization," how could all of those Republican governors fail to set up statewide health insurance consortia, and abdicate this responsibility to the "centralized" system run through your and their hated federal government?

Please cite a source with a proposal from Obama for what you call, "a centralized HC system." I have seen none.
The Clintons did have a proposal for a centralized health care system in the 1990s, but it was killed by the health insurance industry through their legislative sycophants (mostly Republicans, but some Democrats as well). Of course, every other developed nation IN THE WORLD has such a centralized system. Every other developed nation IN THE WORLD has much lower health care costs as a percentage of their GDP than does the United States. Most of these industrialized nations also have longer life expectancy than does the United States, despite having lower cost health care. As a conservative, don't you want more efficiency and efficacy out of the most expensive health care system IN THE WORLD?

And, as an example of the height of hypocrisy, why didn't Republican governors -- nearly all of whom chant the conservative mantra that state and local governments can ALWAYS DO EVERYTHING better than the federal government can -- leap at the chance to implement their own statewide health insurance exchanges rather than force the federal government to do so?

a quote from Hitler, NOT as a young man, but as the elected Chancellor of Germany, in 1933! Your labeling that as my "BS," is, in fact, BS of your own making!

You are too entrenched in your belief system to ever look beyond your own walls...even when faced with evidence that directly contradicts you...you just double down with more bullshit...

no those quotes don't count....he said that as a young man....people change...

give me a break.....

You are so desperate to defend the left that you cant even acknowledge historical facts.

And the truth that there was a left wing in the Nazi party is a historical FACT jack....deal with it...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

quotes from his youth. I'll take my quotes over yours. You have a right to disagree.

Should we label Ronald Reagan as a left-wing apologist based upon his adoration of FDR when he was a youth and when he was an adult, labor union president?

Which part of "Mein Kampf" did you like best?

Personally. I liked the part WELL AFTER "Mein Kampf," when Hitler killed himself!
Which part did you like best. G-MAN?

Never forget, Dale, that if not for Hitler and his "social programs," there likely would not have been a resurrected Israel.

Patience is a great virtue.

Hitler was very successful killing an estimate 6,000,000 Jews, not to mention millions of others. If he had been able to continue his genocide, not only would there not be a State of Israel today, there would be no Jews at all!

Really DW. Were you trying to be funny here? Ironic? To a Jew, it is neither, only cruel.

One of my father's first cousins did a family tree about 35 years ago. Every single one of his relatives who stayed in Europe rather than emigrating, was killed in the Holocaust. When my wife and I toured the Holocaust Museum in D.C., one of the featured Polish villages was one in which most of the people living there were related to my wife. Every one of those villagers was killed in a Nazi death camp.

Nothing Hitler did helped Jews in any way.

Don't forget all the other groups Hitler rounded up, like the homosexuals and the Sinti/Roma/Gypsies and the handicapped. As well as all the fact he didn't have any love for non-White people either. Hmmmm. That sounds a lot like current GOP policy.,,,

None of it, but I am disturbed that it's one of the books on your shelf along with _1984_ and the collected works of Ayn Rand.

Many in the current conservative movement already label Ronnie as such.

I was thinking about the stories that Toledos' finest used to stop the elevator in the Safety Building, knock a prisoner around, then finish taking him to the jail upstairs. That sort of thing, actual problems White People have had with White cops. In Lucas County, not so much in other jurisdictions.

Dale wants a source.

Ok. How about Barak Obama? Is that a good enough source on what Barak Obama wants?

So you claim you've seen no source where he favors a nationalized health care system.

Well now you have.

Your eyes were closed and now they are opened. The dark has receded and the morning has come.

MikeyA

Good research. And I agree with this position. Obama did NOT propose this to Congress, however.

I agree he didn't he took a pragmatic approach.

MikeyA

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