Jewish Student Attacked At Temple University

I wonder how much of this goes on at TU? Anyone know of any incidents?
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/temple-univ-jewish-student-punched-face-...

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is naïve at best. Not "looking Jewish," I have heard anti-Semitic comments my entire 67 years of life. It may not be so blatant and open as racism, but anti-Semitism is still a serious problem in America.

Because Jewish people face discrimination in:
the workplace?
Public education?
Housing?
Sorry Dale; I've agreed with you on many issues, but on this one, not at all.
Would you rather be American and:
Black
Hispanic
Poor
Fat
Mentally ill
or Jewish?
There is a lot bigotry alive and well in this great nation of ours. Jewish folks are far down the list of those on the receiving end.
In fact, you may want to cite a source or provide an example or two because i frankly can't think of any (and some of my best friends are jewish :)

see what one isn't looking for. The Temple U. case is no an isolated one. Anti-Semitism lurks just below the surface. I abhor all forms of discrimination. Those you mention, which are subject to greater discrimination, are more visible. Why do you think that Hitler ordered Jews to wear armbands with Jewish stars, before the transporting of them to death camps began? And keep in mind, the Jews in Germany in the 1930s felt themselves to be more integrated into German society than were any other Jews in Europe, if not in the entire world.
When you read anti-Israeli bias, think anti-Semitism. Remember, support for Hamas is support for a group which not only is committed openly to the elimination of the State of Israel, but is also committed to the death of every Jew on this planet. Read the Hamas manifesto!
Now, if you really want me to do a search, I can site specific examples, and recent ones, like the Temple University attack posted here.

Exactly Dale. He asks for proof but the source article is proof. Plus he says Jews are far down the list yet this young man was brutally attacked and called a "kike".

I've probably seen more racism against jews than any other group in my life, especially in Toledo. It was viewed as acceptable. I've heard the term "jew'd down" and "what are you a jew" when someone was not willing to pay for something.

We were warned before coming here that if we had visited Israel to get another stamp in our passport. If we had an Israeli stamp we faced waiting at customs in any of the countries we may visit. And I am in what's considered a moderate country in the middle east.

MikeyA

This is credited to Martin Niemoller after his experience in Hitler's Germany:

"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak out for me."

Sorry...double post.

Except, the group causing the trouble is a Palestinian group of some sort.

which side was at fault for initiating and dragging out the violence in and around Gaza.
Here's the link:
http://news.yahoo.com/palestinian-leader-hamas-caused-prolonged-war-1424...

Who would be next? Get a clue at what the Israelis face EVERY DAY!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/06/us/as-iraqi-christians-in-us-watch-isi...

"First they came for the Communists..."

And so it continues. Do I believe that Joe Biden is anti-Semitic? No. But this shows just how ingrained some anti-Semitic stereotypes can be in our society. They are so accepted that a reference to a fictional Jewish moneylender, who demanded, literally, a pound of flesh as part of the payment for a debt, becomes a commonly used term to describe any unscrupulous moneylender. Such negative stereotypes make violence against Jews easier for many to perpetrate, to rationalize, and to justify.
http://news.msn.com/us/biden-says-shylocks-was-poor-choice-of-words

The more interesting part of all this is that if Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, or any other Republican or Conservative speaker used this language we would be told that it only shows their ingrained thinking, proving their true beliefs. With Biden we have already been told it was a slip.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

error; have no fear about that. Fred, if you truly believe that this will not be used against Biden if he chooses to seek the Democratic nomination for POTUS in 2016, you are displaying a naivety I would never ascribe to you, or you are being totally disingenuous.
And, if Biden should receive the Democratic nomination, I assure you that whoever the Republican nominee should be, that person will attempt to make greater inroads among Jewish Democrats to draw, not only an unprecedented percentage of Jewish votes, but also to raise an unprecedented amount of money from those Jews who regularly contribute to political campaigns.

If it were a celebrity the media would be calling for them to be fired. Since it's a Democrat VP they just ignore it.

MikeyA

You are assuming here. And we all know what happens when one assumes, don't we?

Not assuming Dale. Plenty of examples of this in the media.

MikeyA

Biden will pay for this politically.

No I'm not Dale.

My assumption is no one in the media will highlight this and it will go unnoticed.

Now, if he were a celebrity there would be groups calling for him to be fired, step down, or resign and at the absolute bare minimum apologize. If he were a celebrity there would be TMZ trying to track down if he said anything similar in the past, MSNBC would have guests on discussing it, and it would be front page of Salon.com for at least a week.

MikeyA

No one watches MSNBC.

If that's all you took from my post you missed the point entirely.

MikeyA

Stupid stuff comes out of Biden's mouth, this is not news.

So these people should have their jobs?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/21/academic-who-lost-teaching-gig-over...

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/fashion/john-galliano-back-article...

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/10/19/teacher-fired-for-anti-semitic-c...

And they weren't celebrities. Celebrities normally have their jobs threatened, if they actually lose it is a case by case basis.

http://www.eurweb.com/2014/05/macklemore-under-fire-for-wearing-alleged-...

http://ewn.co.za/2014/06/25/Batman-actor-under-fire

I think if anyone it's our politicians who should be held to the higher standard since they represent the people. The VP should apologize if he's truly sorry. If he's not I'd respect him more if he said he's not.

MikeyA

Joe Biden should apologize, should tender his resignation as VP, and should totally retire from politics.
I have no use for anyone who uses anti-Semitic terminolgy of any kind, including such phrases as "Jew him down." "I got jewed."
Nor do I have any use for anyone who uses any slurs that reference any religion, ethnicity, race, nationality, culture, gender, age, weight, sexual preference, etc. I hate prejudice. I despise discrimination.

You're not fitting nicely into the negative stereotype in which others here have cloaked you.

I maintain my point that anti-Semitism still lingers just under the surface within the hearts and souls of too many Americans, no matter which part of the political spectrum they occupy.

Roland, I agree with you in principle.

I think if the VP was a man of integrity he would step down but I don't believe he's a man of integrity. I also won't call for his job because I believe in the first amendment and even though I dislike hate speech there is a right to say it.

I also don't want an apology if he doesn't mean it.

I find it interesting that the Attourney General has the time to look into cases of government officials who are racist, but only when they are the same color as him.

MikeyA

for what you state. One must live with the consequences of one's speech. And...not all hate speech is "protected" speech. Direct threats may lead to arrest and prosecution. No one can say ANYTHING one wants to say without regard for the consequences, including to oneself!

I agree Dale.

However there are some in our society who cannot figure where that line should be drawn. For the VP, like I said if he were a man of integrity and was truly sorry he would apologize and step aside.

For many others though I cannot see destroying their livelihood as you've seen in some of the previous cases I posted. That is why I stop short of calling for their job.

MikeyA

"Better to be silent and appear a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

Putting it another way...know when to shut up!

No I don't think I will. I don't have to. As long as Chris allows me to frequent this forum, I will give my opinions whether you like them or not.

MikeyA

NOT to you.
And, I was only warning them that they may appear foolish if they don't know when to back off. They -- and you -- may write anything you want. They must keep in mind that, even within legal limits, freedom of speech may mean consequences they have not considered. I know that you, Mikey, are knowledgeable enough in these matters to proceed more cautiously than do some others.

Ok, Dale.

I thought it was directed at me. It seemed a bit out of character but I thought that something I wrote offended you.

MikeyA

both In The United States and in Canada. Jews live every day with antisemitism lingering just under the surface. However, antisemitism has been bubbling up more lately. Now, one may be attacked for wearing a Jewish Star. How long will it be before one is attacked for wearing a cross? Remember, no European Jews felt more integrated into society than did those Jews living in Germany before the 1930s.
Here's a link to the latest in the growing wave of antisemitism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAyFlByb64M&feature=youtu.be

And, tiny Israel, surrounded by Muslim states which dwarf Israel in both size and population, is accused of being racist? Talk about blaming the victims! The terrorist attacks in both America and Canada are bringing into focus the environment in which Israelis must live their lives EVERY DAY. Are the Israelis and Jews worldwide paranoid? Here's the definition of paranoia: 1: "A psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur, usually without hallucinations. 2: A tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others." Merriam-Webster. Are Israelis and Jews in general being irrationally suspicious and distrustful? You be the judge.

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