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I believe the water "emergency" that Toledo has been going through today is a hoax being perpetrated by Mayor Collins and his henchmen to scare the people of Toledo into going along with massive water rate hikes to finance the upgrade of the city water treatment plant. The results of the tests of Toledo's water by outside agencies will not be announced until tomorrow. That will give Mayor Collins time to put the final touches on his PR spin of the story. I expect the phrase that will be heard most in Toledo tomorrow will be: "It was better to err on the side of caution". If all this is proven to be a lie the person or persons who did the original tests who caused all this excitement need to be fired and sent to prison. The mayor is responsible for the actions of the employees of his administration and needs to be held accountable also.

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With how many millions of dollars lost?

A serious reply to FG-like conspiracy theories.

Jesus, you conservative fucks are fucking sick and dedicated to taking advantage of ANYTHING for your own fucking gain. Disgusting.

Jesus Christ coward. Make some more kool aid out of some Toledo tap water and drink deeply.

Sarge is a local retard.

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Informed political sources from Columbus Ohio have indicated that this algae bloom problem in Toledo has been around for weeks, and, the City of Toledo knew it was escalating to this point but did nothing. The mayor and his whole staff need to be fired. Some suggest that this is an action that the City of Toledo thinks will show the people of Northwest, Ohio how well the present administration can solve problems and we as citizens will think of them as heroes. Thank God we have elections that get rid of bums like this.

I suppose these informed political sources are nameless?

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In this particular area, Fred, Zeyad has the credentials and the connections. He knows of which he speaks.

Patience is a great virtue.

If I start naming people they won't continue to speak with me. You know that, Fred. Fish all you want. I won't name my sources of information.

What local politician would be elected to ANY local office if (s)he stated the truth? Toledo needs a new water treatment plant which will cost several hundreds of millions of dollars, and, because of lower percentages in the amount the federal government will contribute, much, if not the majority, of this money will have to come from local taxpayers and/or rate payers. And why has the federal share of such projects declined? Because voters have consistently elected politicians to Congress to spend LESS at the federal level. This type of situation is the result.

Now, what is wrong with local people paying for a local need? It creates winners and losers! Wealthier localities can more easily raise the local revenues needed. Poorer local communities truly cannot afford additional expenditures; additional taxes. Where do you think Toledo falls by this measurement?

Gee I wondered why Perrysburg has seriously been looking to tap into Ottawa County Regional Water and BG water!

The water treatment plant and infrastructure have been in place for decades. The problem is that during those decades local unions, an influential newspaper, and low information voters continued to elect people who refused or ignorantly ignored required maintenance on this problem. For eleven years the Finkbeiner administration and other union backed councils and mayors fought the EPA over solutions. In those 11 years the costs rose until we find ourselves in this situation.
Current politicians will call for us to move forward, not try to lay blame or point fingers. But we cannot move forward unless we know what happened in the first place. Had an audit of the water dept been done when asked for years ago by WSPD we could have seen where the maintenance was lacking.

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Toledo does not have the right talent because most talented people from Toledo will leave and go somewhere where talented, rational people are valued. Talented, rational people who stay in Toledo are constantly bombarded by the other 90% with relentless criticism and treated as though they are pariahs. Instead of seeking excellence people in Toledo will establish a system of mediocrity and do whatever they can to maintain it so those without talent can rule the roost.

100% spot on. What self thinking un "owned" person in their right mind would ever run for office in this town where cronyism and personal gain for generations is the norm!

I hate to say it, okay no I don't, but that sounds like the description of a union. Instead of rewarding excellence, protect mediocrity and maintain it through strikes and stoppages. That is a wonderful description and one I will be using on air in the future.

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Fred we know you hate unions but this obsession is really transparent to everyone except you. Union membership has sunk to less than ten percent of the workforce and yet you believe every evil begins with the word union. Give it a break we all know you had to work forty hours last week. Welcome to a full time job!

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The criticism exists BECAUSE the "system of mediocrity" was already in place. Toledo started to go downhill about the time I was born. By the time I entered high school, mediocrity had started its terrible tenure, which we're suffering from today: Ruinous governmental costs, predatory unions, weak electorate, and crumbling infrastructure.

You Liberals confuse cause and effect all the time.

Thoughts that have not been addressed is the impact of air pollution. Every time it rains in Toledo air contaminants from areas West of Toledo fall on us, our properties, lakes, rivers and streams. Algae and other nasty's in water love this stuff falling from the heavens.

In the 1950s' there were always algae blooms in Lake Erie. We swam in the water, drank the water, never saw any fish kills, ate the fish we caught-------and none of us got sick.

Serious question: Which one of Econcat88's videos caused this algal bloom and subsequent microcystin poisoning of Toledo's water supply?

According to Zeyad and others, there MUST be a link between the two, and a causative one!

Balancing Act? According to the reliable sources in Columbus, Ohio, The Toledo Administration knew yesterday that the test results were below the danger levels, but decided to wait a day so they scare the citizens some more to strengthen their political agenda to raise water rates. If they waited until Tuesday that would have been too long and made them look incompetent. I believe the crisis was real, but was over 24 hours ago.

1- citizens don't vote on water or sewer rates, council does which they will do today. 2-the rate increase is not for water but for sewer and although it is seemingly water rate it is in fact used for infrastructure purposes 3-this is necessary because we have lagged behind on maintenance and fought the epa for 15 years about needed improvements.

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So you admit that the City of Toledo is a welfare institution. They will only do something when big brother Federal Government gives them a handout.

It was announced on the local "news" stations,that the average consumer will be paying "about" fifteen dollars more on their water bills. Folks, we've been had.

a high level of a toxin that just lowers itself. I would say DONT DRINK TAP WATER, regardless. Oh, here's one for ya. City Official's said to flush your water tanks for 15 min. Hmmm, that should recoup the loss of revenue for the last couple days.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Because you're a fucking moron, DTOM, and your knowledge of science, particularly chemistry, is less than that of a retarded ant, you Creationist buffoon.

Oh wait, the samples (since they were listing TESTING POINTS BASED ON CITY STREETS/NEIGHBORHOODS) were POST-TREATMENT, meaning that the toxin didn't "lower itself", it was a change in treatment regimen and water being used that got the level down.

Fucking science, how does it work?

Can you tell me what that treatment regimen consists of. I guess listening to these stupid republicans all this time made me a moron. Damn those bastards on the right.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

It's funny how that works, isn't it? Just in time for a rate increase to solve problems that fix themselves!

"3-this is necessary because we have lagged behind on maintenance and fought the epa[sic] for 15 years about needing improvements."

And before we all jump on these elected officials...stop and think. Could anyone be elected as Mayor of Toledo, or to Toledo City Council while campaigning on a theme of spending hundreds of millions of dollars to upgrade or replace our 70-year-old water treatment plant? Could such a campaign be successful if in included just how much more each rate-payer would have to pay per billing cycle?

And for those, like me, who live in a suburb (or exurb), do you really believe that your suburb or exurb can thrive while Toledo goes belly-up? Do you really believe that who becomes Mayor of Toledo or who sits on Toledo City Council has nothing to do with you?

I, for one, give kudos to Mayor Collins, Governor Kasich, and all of the other elected and appointed officials involved, for cooperating to deal with this crisis in a professional, prudent manner. Anyone who believes that the "all clear" was held off for political reasons must believe that the extreme winter was also part of a plot to make Mayor Collins appear to be a strong leader. Mother Nature must LOVE this mayor!

Dalepertcheck, you appear to be so politically naïve. This was an opportunity for this administration to let the citizens demand safe drinking water and not resist the City's plans to rape us once again. This administration will raise taxes or some other fees to anticipate another winter like the one we just had. You are the type of person the City of Toledo wants. Stupid!

Every municipality is regulated by Federal law to have an approved Disaster Plan, including a Disaster Plan to handle situations just like this one. If you want to praise them, praise them for following the cookbook that the Fed's approved years ago as part of the Federal Risk Management Plan. The City officials did nothing extraordinary. They did what the Disaster Plan required.

I'm not buying conspiracy, but the timing of the water warning was extremely fortuitous for city government: 2 a.m. Saturday when nearly everybody's at home asleep and most will not be going in to work. Imagine the potential panic if the warning had been issued on a Wednesday at 1 p.m. when most are at work, people are at restaurants, kids are in daycare, spouses are at home washing clothes and dishes and cooking. Imagine all the frantic phone calls ("Abner, the kids just drank Kool-Aid! They're all gonna die!") and mad dashes to stores to fight for bottled water. Funny how the ban was lifted just after another workweek began.

Patience is a great virtue.

with you is either "naïve" or "stupid." How many political campaigns have you run? Have you ever run for office? How many elected officials do you know? How many times have you had one-on-one conversations with such elected officials? Having been involved with innumerable campaigns, often at the highest levels, I can assure you that one thing elected officials want to avoid at all costs is controversy, especially controversy which adversely affects hundreds of thousands of people.

You, sir, trust no one. This leads you toward some preposterous conclusions. Run for office yourself. See how easy it is to do. And, if you win, see how easy it is to make decisions when a crisis arises. For someone as intelligent as you, this should be a proverbial "walk in the park," ZC!

The United States has a multi-trillion dollar infrastructure problem. We can choose to systematically attack it, or we can choose to continue to, "kick the can down the road," for some future generation to handle. I, for one, would choose to spend more of our precious federal tax dollars on infrastructure repairs, and create jobs right here in America for that fix, rather than spend trillions on more weapons to fight far-off wars to prop up regimes in regions of the world much more important to our European allies than they are to us. Hey...but that's just me..."stupid" and "naïve" as I am.

(Pssst...ZC...JFK, Elvis, and Tupac are still alive...pass it on.)
Conspiracies are everywhere!

You need some horns to accompany your violin.

You need to drop more names, many more names. Otherwise, how will we know how truly a special enlightened person you really are, Comrade Apparatchik!

The best way to secure funding, would be to stop ALL foreign aid to other countries. And to put a special consumption tax on WINE.

When you have nothing cogent to state, attack!

And G-MAN...I'm enjoying my one glass of wine per night as I type this. I approve of raising taxes on ALL ADULT BEVERAGES AND CIGARETTES. Works for me. Since I buy only about one bottle of wine every 5 days, it won't cost me too much. May I remind you that I never did drink every day until I was advised to do so by my primary care physician and my cardiologist. But, after all, what would they know about good heart health?
I did have angioplasty twice. Once in October of 1995 and again in January of 1996. Apparently, the advise of my physicians has been very good, since I have not had a coronary blockage in almost 19 years, now. I think I'll drink to that! I just did!!
Now, G-MAN...since you still seem to have a hang-up about my alcohol consumption, am I to assume that you abstain from the consumption of adult beverages?

One glass takes me so long to drink! This night is NOT atypical. I have to admit...I do like it, though.

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