Removing yet another bogus poll attacking people.

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Another tiny cry for attention.

That poll looks like the standard Toledo election ballot.

Yeah, that's why Republicans like you can't get rid of Stainbrook, right?

I'm not a Republican. Are you really this dense, or are you just acting?

I can vote for anyone I please. I'm not morally restricted by primary "rules". Anyone who believes differently can do something about it. I predict nothing will happen. And that's how it should be.

By law you are affiliated with the GOP after voting in their primary in Ohio.

Under Ohio election law, you can change your political party at a Primary Election only. This is done by requesting the ballot type for the political party with which you wish to be affiliated. Ohio Revised Code Section 3513.19, .20.

If you do not want to be affiliated with a political party in Ohio, you are considered to be an unaffiliated voter. An unaffiliated voter, which is identified by some people as an “independent voter”, may only vote an Official Questions and Issues Ballot, if there are any present, for your precinct on Primary Election Day. Unaffiliated or Independent voters can vote for candidates and issues in a General Election.

Ohio’s primary process strikes a balance between the statutory deference to an individual voter’s participatory rights and the political parties’ associative rights. To protect this balance, Directive 2011-43 prohibits against any precinct election official or board of elections member, director, deputy director, or clerk from challenging the right to vote of any elector on the grounds that the voter is not affiliated with or is not a member of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote, unless that official has personal knowledge to the contrary. In these rare instances, either SOS Form 10-W, 10-X or 10-Z should be used, depending on the circumstance, pursuant to R.C. 3510.06(D) and 3513.20.

Here's a link for the directive

It's clear that you are allowed to change your mind about whether or not you are a Republican or Democrat between primaries. What your reason might be is no one else's business. Now if aCOWARD can cite the ORC statute he keeps referring to I'd love to see. If I vote in the Democrat primary who knows? And who will hold me accountable for voting Democrat in the general election or supporting Dems during the campaign? aCOWARD is way off base with this.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Nice plagiarism of

You can change your mind, but as you stated, YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR PARTY AT A PRIMARY ELECTION ONLY. So since GZ voted in the REPUBLICAN primary this year, he's affiliated with the Republican Party until he changes his affiliation by voting in THE NEXT PRIMARY. Because, as you stated, and I quote, "Under Ohio election law, you can change your political party at a Primary Election only. " Can't change your affiliation OUTSIDE OF or UNTIL the next Primary Election. Fred, if you voted REPUBLICAN in the primary you're affiliated BY LAW with the GOP. If you think you're gonna switch and vote in the next primary for the Dem ballot then we get into this bit upon you being challenged

3513.20 Effect of challenge to voter at primary.

Before any challenged person shall be allowed to vote at a primary election , the person shall make a statement, under penalty of election falsification, before one of the precinct officials, blanks for which shall be furnished by the board of elections, giving name, age, residence, length of residence in the precinct, county, and state; stating that the person desires to be affiliated with and supports the principles of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote; and giving all other facts necessary to determine whether the person is entitled to vote in that primary election. The statement shall be returned to the office of the board with the pollbooks and tally sheets.

You switch parties and get challenged, you have to, to use a colorful phrasing, "swear fealty" to the new party, that is, you WILLFULLY DESIRE AND SUPPORT THE PRINCIPLES OF __________ PARTY.

Of course we need go to back to this

3513.19 Challenges at primary elections.

(A) It is the duty of any precinct election official, whenever any such official doubts that a person attempting to vote at a primary election is legally entitled to vote at that election, to challenge the right of that person to vote. The right of a person to vote at a primary election may be challenged upon the following grounds:

(1) That the person whose right to vote is challenged is not a legally qualified elector;

(2) That the person has received or has been promised some valuable reward or consideration for the person's vote;

(3) That the person is not affiliated with or is not a member of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote. Such party affiliation shall be determined by examining the elector's voting record for the current year and the immediately preceding two calendar years as shown on the voter's registration card, using the standards of affiliation specified in the seventh paragraph of section 3513.05 of the Revised Code. Division (A)(3) of this section and the seventh paragraph of section 3513.05 of the Revised Code do not prohibit a person who holds an elective office for which candidates are nominated at a party primary election from doing any of the following:

Let's see what that paragraph of 3513.05 says!

For purposes of signing or circulating a petition of candidacy for party nomination or election, an elector is considered to be a member of a political party if the elector voted in that party's primary election within the preceding two calendar years, or if the elector did not vote in any other party's primary election within the preceding two calendar years.

So if you voted in this year's REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, you are AFFILIATED WITH THE GOP unless and until you either vote in the NEXT primary for a party other than the GOP, or you manage to become unregistered entirely, since voting "issues only" in a primary does NOT remove your REPUBLICAN affiliation.

GZ by his own admission voted in the REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, so he effectively is a Republican in the eyes of Ohio Law until he somehow unregisters to vote or votes in a primary for a different party.

Why don't you call your buddy Stainbrook and have him explain it for you? He's supposed to be the expert, having been on the BOE.


That's about the substance of AC's posts.


At least my comments don't spam up the main page with unsourced, false Teabagger garbage, like DTOM.

Yeah, and who hasn't noticed that DTOM immediately posts 3-4 things to push anything he doesn't like off the top of the page?

I haven't noticed this sort of thing going on. Probably nothing other than happenstance, IMHO.

Right. Pretty sure there's a happy little history page here that we can review. Not that you'd believe it, in the same way that if you're a sports fan, you never see YOUR team's players committing a foul, but every time it turns out the other team's committing fouls and the refs are throwing the game in their favor too.

Sez the trash who regularly posts 3-4 things at the same time....