Airliner Shot Down By Russian AA Battery-295 Dead!

Holy Shit! Airliner shot down, at 33,000 feet. Flying over the Ukraine. Putin calls Absentee Landlord at the Hamptons. If not the Rooskies, some group with access to Rooskie anti aircraft missiles. Airliner was Malaysian. All European Airliners to be diverted around this part of Eastern European airspace.

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You need to clarify that, or some one might accuse you of talking about Flight 370 and call you names.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

I know, and I'm surprised it hasn't started already.

Just heard that Joe Biden is sending a team to "determine what happened" to the jet. Biden talked earlier with Ukraine's president. What? Was Obama on the golf course? Could he not be pulled away from an important meeting with Jay-Z?

He spoke a couple minutes on television. He DID warn the countries and groups involved, sternly, "I'll be keeping an eye on you!"

I don't know about you, but I'm guessing the soldiers in the Red Army are quaking in their boots right about now.

Wow, talk about living in the past... you are aware that this is 2014 and there is no more Red Army?

He drew a red line. No more shooting civilian airplanes down... or else.


Among the dead were 23 Americans.

Ronnie didn't hold back in calling the Russians what they were a few decades ago when a similar event took place.

Patience is a great virtue.

Oh he held back all right, that was what, 4 days later that he spoke up?

Are you out to side with the Tea Partiers today to demand Obama say SOMETHING with the hope that it's not fully correct so you can use it against him later, or something?

Time for you to admit the obvious, AC. Obama is weak. Flaccid. Vacillating. Aggression in the world does not cause as much fear among our allies as the consistently tepid response of this administration. I think even you would be better equipped to be commander in chief.

Patience is a great virtue.

42 Americans are reported to have been killed and here you are out to crow that Obama's weak and make political hay OVER THE DEAD BODIES OF AMERICANS when we don't even have all the facts in yet.

That's pretty goddamned disgusting and reprehensible, Don.

I'd pray for your soul but at a guess I'd say you already sold your soul out to Satan.

Don, it seems you can't win for losing! This morning you were congratulated for putting a smile on his face, and NOW THIS? I believe someone here owes you an apology. Also, I was really pissed off about George not being any where around during the air raids on 9-11. And campaigning against government spending--without vetoing a single Republican massive spending Bill.

Your cogntive abilities are in decline. I did not "crow" over Obama's weakness. Millions of Americans, including me, are greatly dismayed by the president's lack of fortitude on the international front. Nobody wants a weak president except the enemies of America. And whatever makes you think I'm "making hay" over dead Americans is beyond me. There simply is no line reasoning in your comments. As far as your reference to my soul and Satan, evidently you believe that we are more than mortal beings for whom existence, aside from our quickly deteriorating flesh, ceases upon death and that there is some sort of afterlife. Do you also believe there is a supernatural counterpart to your Satan who also trades in souls?

Patience is a great virtue.

Give it a rest and admit nothing Obama could possibly do except dropping dead or resigning could possibly make you happy, since you hate him so much for the crimes of Presidenting While Black and Presidenting While Democrat that your side even attacked the man over his choice of mustard. Or, go ahead and tell me what you think Obama should do so I can rebut you using examples where you and your fellow irrational, illogical Obama-haters have attacked him for doing exactly what you wanted. I have a fine example of your Republican doublethink Big Lie B.S. all queued up where you're attacking Obama for doing what a majority of Republicans wanted.

Seriously, did someone swap your Metamucil with Tea Party Kool-Aid today? You're better than this normally.

I want the President to be healthy, happy, and to keep doing exactly what he's been doing! No impeachment, no resignation--he should just stay put. In Washington, the Vineyard or Hawaii. He has two plus years to go, and since "I won", he can run the Country exactly as he pleases! I would like to see how far he can push the envelope. I haven't seen ANYTHING like this before, except maybe on the History channel. I have one suggestion-make his favorite song: " I did it myyyyyyyyyyyyy way". AC, just a suggestion, drop the internet for a while, and pick up cable. You can always switch back if you prefer the net. Have a nice day!

AC, you really ought to consider changing your name to Mr. AH, short for Mr. Ad Hominem. It's pathetic that the best you can do when others express disappointment with Obama's performance, even those who voted for him twice, is to accuse them of racism. It would be novel if you used logic and facts once in a while to write positively about something the president has done, absent of anyone else's comments. Apparently, you have nothing good to say about the man.

Patience is a great virtue.

Don, you're falling for the campaign the right wing has out for the President and you know it. It's all about the Big Lie, repeat something often and loudly enough no matter how untrue it is and eventually people will start believing it. The GOP has a two-pronged attack on it to hit Obama either for being an empty suit do-nothing non-leader or for being an evil imperial lawless dictator, never mind the both can't be true simultaneously. It's working great because if one's not inclined to believe one lie they will probably believe the other .

All I hear from you is how Obama sucks, but not much in the way of SPECIFICS of what he should be doing.

If he spends a dime, he's a big spending Democrat.
If he doesn't spend a thing, he hates small businesses
If he asks Congress to take action, he's a do-nothing who doesn't take responsiblity.
If Congress doesn't take action and he does, he's an evil lawless imperial dictator who ignores the Constitution.
If he puts troops on the ground, he is an imperialist and militarist and wants to get our brave servicemen and women killed for nothing.
If he doesn't send troops in, he's a do-nothing wuss who is afraid to stand up to (whatever leader/group/nation).

The right wing HATES Obama so much that they will even filibuster THEIR VERY OWN BILLS to try to make him look bad, in case you've forgotten.

And the ULTIMATE ONE: Suing Obama and threatening IMPEACHMENT for him delaying the employer mandate when the House passed a bill to DELAY THE EMPLOYER MANDATE with ALL BUT ONE REPUBLICAN VOTING YES ON THE BILL!!

The right wing shot its credibility all to hell between these examples and their crying WOLF! WOLF! every time Obama does anything. John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and Reince Priebus could swear on a stack of Bibles in front of me that the sky is blue and water is wet and I would still double-check that the Bibles were actually Bibles before walking outside to check on the sky and finding a faucet to check on water.

Do I have to suggest that you stop getting your information from MSNBC. There has been no conformation on American deaths.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Oh look, here is another trolling attempt.

You just can't stop being an ass, even after your timeout, can you? You just have to try to start something.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Earlier today, Sen. Levin stated if American people were on the plane, he would consider it an act of war, no matter who shot it down.

Meanwhile, Israeli troops began a ground invasion against Hamas:

Folks, the World is in some deep shit now.

Mental Note: Don't fly on Malaysian Airlines.

One statement he made was, we can't get out in front of the facts. That's reasonable, but Susan Powers stated it was the Russian separatists that committed the offense, which she based it on U.S and other confirmed information. Obama said the war could be stopped by the Ukrainians, and the Separatists, and the Russians. I believe the Russians invaded Ukraine. Obama would not put the blame on Putin because then he would actually have to do something about it.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Supposedly the separatists were talking about what they did on the Internet.

As for your wet dreams about Obama confronting Putin, we all know you want Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo, and reminisce about all those duck and cover drills and Red Dawn fantasies, as evidenced by comments from others about the "Red Army".

Why don't you guys like Putin? He's everything you want a President to be. Heck, even your Bush loved him. "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul. He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship,"

You voted for Bush right before you voted for Obama twice. Bush and his screw-ups are in the past. Look what your OBAMA HAS DONE IN 6 YEARS. Look at what's going on in the world, try Fox News then you will really get a perspective of what's going on, instead of MSNBC and talking about Bush all the time. WHO HAS BEEN THE PRESIDENT FOR THE LAST 6YEARS. The world is in chaos because of your Obama's FUZZY RABBIT DIPLOMACY.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

What do you know about Electric Boogaloo,

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Obama stated that the Ukrainians, and the Separatists, and the Russians could end the war. Really, I thought Russia invaded the Ukraine. Obama stayed away from blaming Putin, because he would actually have to back that up.
U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power rebuked Russia noting that evidence indicates that "Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile from an area controlled by Russian-backed separatists." "Russia can end this war," Power said. "Russia must end this war."

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Maybe the President should repeat that they should stop or there will be repercussions.

I bet he has a handheld device telling him what to say.


I heard the president this afternoon describe the downed plane as a "tragedy" and "catastrophic." A tragedy is when a passenger ship hits an iceberg and sinks. A catastrophe is when a tsunami hits Pacific islands and washes hundreds to their deaths. Those two words should never be used to describe a deliberate act to kill innocent and defenseless people. Unless, that is, one is so weak and not wishing to offend that he must refer to it as some sort of naturally occurring event. Too bad Obama, even if it's too early to accuse obvious suspects, did not at least call it what it was: mass murder.

Patience is a great virtue.

You are going to have to rescind your comments, or eat them sans ketchup.

"All of America was touched on the evening of the tragedy to see Republicans and Democrats joined together on the steps of this Capitol singing "God Bless America.""

"I ask you to continue to support the victims of this tragedy with your contributions. Those who want to give can go to a central source of information,, to find the names of groups providing direct help in New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia."

I didn't like Bush's use of the word either. I didn't like Bush at all aside from his contributions to the livelihood of American comedians. I have to ask you, AC, is your world so black-and-white that you are convinced that anyone who criticizes Obama must have been a devotee to Bush?

Patience is a great virtue.

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