Obama's all over the Fort Hood shooting..

Obama said it again "We will get to the bottom of this". Yeah, just like Benghazi and all the other issues he is supposed to Get To The Bottom Of. Oh! and lets not forget about Clinton not allowing Military personal to carry personal protection on base. What will the liberal gun control advocates say now, that no assault rifle was used.
"Guns Have Two Enemies, Rust & Politicians"

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Still can't read your droppings, what with the poor spelling, grammar, and punctuation. Did like the BENGHAZI! derp mention though.

Get a life, Linecrosser.

My spelling, grammar, and punctuation is poor.. wow! ^

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Learning to use the apostrophe would be a good start for you, Linecrosser.

Also, since your name here is "Don't Tread On Me", one of the Tea Party slogans, yet you denied being a Tea Partier on TT, your credibility is shot.

First of all I have never been on TT, so therefore you don't know what you are talking about as usual. second, its a moniker MORON. So, should I assume that you are a feel sorry for yourself Democratic piece of an Anonymous Coward.. Also, the apostrophe looks the same as a closing single quotation mark, Chumley, with different meanings. The apostrophe looks similar, smart guy

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

That rule about no firearms on the base was put in place in 1992 by the Defense Department during George Herbert Walker Bush's administration.



Not that it'll do any good to tell Linecrosser/"DTOM" this stuff, he doesn't believe anything he doesn't hear on Fox News.

Let's let DTOM blame all shootings on the president.

Patience is a great virtue.

Picture of DTOM telling us about the President.

You permission to post my pic, your in copywrit violation, you will be hearing from my lawyer...

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

So you ARE a racist and ADMIT that the President is a ni-*BONG*!

The only one concerned about race is you.


Sorry, what's that again? The President's 'near'? It'll be good to have a new sheriff in town.

Wow! you are such a hypocrite, your the one that don't believe anything other then MSNBC, and what your Obama say's. Fox news tows the party line just like the rest of them, but at least their ideology is a little more sensible.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Wow! you are such a hypocrite, your the one that don't believe anything other then MSNBC, and what your Obama say's. Fox news tows the party line just like the rest of them, but at least their ideology is a little more sensible. --"DTOM" aka "Linecrosser"

And for those who can't read his blather, here is the corrected version.

Wow! yYou are such a hypocrite,. yourYou're the one that don'twho doesn't believe anything other thenthan MSNBC, and what Obama say'ssays. Fox nNews towstoes the party line just like the rest of them, but at least their ideology is a little more sensible.

FYI, I don't have MSNBC so I don't watch it.

I hope the corrected spelling, grammar, and punctuation help you improve your command of the language, though.

What happens when you pay more attention to the grammar than the message.


I believe that was under Clinton in 93" and Obama up help it in 11"

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

It was daddy Bush's administration. Clinton may have later upheld it because it was what the Department of Defense wanted, but it was started in 1992.

Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas has succeeded in bullshitting you, and you lapped it up.
If you read the article it explains how he twisted it to make it sound like it was from Clinton. Maybe you missed that part, or maybe your comprehension skills are low.

Honestly, I don't care who put it into law.

It's been proven to not work in today's times and it needs to be undone.


Issue with these liberals is they hate guns period.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

I like guns, I just don't like stupid, ignorant, Tea-tarded, fly-off-the-handle morons like yourself having guns, because one day you'll get drunk and pissed off from Fox News and right-wing radio riling you up with utter bullshit and go shoot up an abortion clinic or college or some black kid walking through your neighborhood or something. Or worse, since it's been scientifically proven that you conservative morons all have enlarged fear centers in your brain, you'll whip your mighty guns out and spray and pray in panic the minute you see someone of a different color or religion than yourselves who dares to disagree with you or who refuses to be subordinate to you.

Where are all the commas, smary guy,and again, you are a hipocrit...you make it obvious everytime u post....Buckwheat

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Weren't the list few assholes who went nuts on innocent victims of a liberal mindset?

The mass shooters are overwhelmingly Liberal in philosophy.

We already know you Liberals aren't against the right to keep and bear arms "because you hate guns". Lots of Liberals, regardless of confession thereof, are gun owners. So instead you want to disarm the right wing. History has well shown what happens after that... the pogroms, the gas chambers, and the crematoria.

Americans really aren't fooled by what you're trying to do. And the demographic changes won't work in your favor, vis-a-vis gun control. Minorities tend to value the right of self defense, after all, they are most besieged. There's a core element to the United States, yellow, brown, black or white, that understands that there's a clear and present danger in the public space, and the private space can be invaded at any time by some thug. White Liberals screech like madmen about it, but they are in fact simply losing ground. The nation only becomes better armed. The Liberal Hellhole in Time, aka the 1990s, was the peak of your gungrabbing foolishness. It's over. And it'll never come back.

But hey, look at it this way, AC: When California, Oregon and Washington all secede from the union to form Libtopia, you're free to smuggle yourself over the border to join them. And good riddance to you and your demented Liberal philosophy. Ohio has a cancer, and you're merely one of its cells.

The mass shooters are overwhelmingly Liberal in philosophy.

[citation needed]

Back your ass-ertion up, GZ. Get off your ass and Google up all the LLLLLiberal mass shootings. That'll be a fun one to see because according to you LLLLLiberals don't like and don't own guns, so logically LLLLLLiberals can't be shooting up everything with the guns they don't like and don't own.

Getting schooled from the English teacher ,Ac

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

The political affiliation of mass shooters is well known from years of extensive coverage of each shooter or shooters when they happen. These nuts tend to be left-wingers. Not all of them, of course, but it's still the trend.

Looks like you've been asleep for the last decade or so. I wasn't asleep, hence I noticed those things. So here's a citation for you:


Get cracking, AC. You've a lot of ground to cover.

Note well that I'm still not saying anything about gun control or whatnot, based on trends. It doesn't matter how many nutty Liberals snap like dried twigs and start shooting up their favorite nearby disarmed zone, like a school, office building, airport or military base. We should not disarm even more people in the face of this clear and present danger. Instead we need to remember that we have the right to keep and bear arms. And we should exercise that right to effect our self defense.

It's your argument. get off your fat ass and back it up instead of this "I'm right, just do random Googles and you'll find that I'm right" bullshit.

Google tells me your argument is a pile of bullshit spewed by your best friends Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones, which means you're nothing more than a dumbass right-wing talk radio listener. Google it.

Don't blame me you've been so blinded by your ideology that you didn't know a common factoid gleaned from about a decade of highly publicized national events.

Google: It's not just for Conservatives.

Common factoid, right. The "common factoid" is that the right wing is full of easily debunked bullshit.


(Cue GZ blathering on about how crappy the sources are while steadfastly refusing to cite any sources for his ass-ertion, AGAIN, because he's caught up in the biggest case of cognitive dissonance ever.)

Mass shooters or their households were commonly reported in the last decade as being primarily left wingers. Those are the real facts. It's not all of them, and they generally weren't rabid lefties (like you are, AC). But their political alignment was definitely on the left instead of the right.

You Liberals can't stand that the rightwing is so well behaved in these cases.

If they are real facts, then you should be able to cite them rather than sit there and use the latest right-wing debate tactic, namely say "I'm right and you're wrong" over and over.

Come on now, are you going to actually debate and argue your case, or are you going to be just like DTOM except with better English?

Most of them are far left liberals, all right! Now the mass stabbing is in a nice suburb. Lots of flaming left-wingers there!

These are facts. You have no facts, just opinions. No one should give such vacuous opinions serious consideration.

This is the norm for you, GZ aka Mr. Empty Glass!

Apparently you have trouble with one or more letters in the word "tend" and "trend".

The fact is, having watched these mass shootings for over a decade with an open mind and two open eyes, the shooters tend to be left-wingers. It's well known and easily determined by using that often maligned tool against Liberalism, called "google".


Are you lazy, trolling, or lying?

All 3?????

No credentials.
No facts.
No links.

but vacuous,

Why would I need to post links for what's commonly known and reported? It's like demanding that I post links about the major news event on Sep. 11th of 2001.

Just google up the news reports and read them. I did this over the years. Anyone can do this. And the trend becomes perfectly obvious: Mass shooters tend to be Liberals from Liberal families. Since Liberals are already frustrated, unstable sorts (HINT HINT look at your own behavior) who are careless with guns (being demonizers about them in the first place), this makes perfect sense.

Thank you for continuing to use that prime right-wing debate tactic of "I'm right because I'm right, Google it and see, I know I'm right and Google backs me up."

You won't Google anything up to back your argument up because you are lazy and wrong. You aren't going to put forth the effort to support your argument therefore you have no argument. Perhaps you're afraid of having all your links debunked?

No credentials.
No facts.
No links.

but vacuous,

but a lot of people want to make everything about gun control the fault of liberals. In this case it's pure misinformation to make it look as such. It would just be nice to have a little accuracy now and then.

Once again, the problem is clear: Places which are made disarmed (ironically, by threat of force) are also made good targets by crazed shooters. After all, they're not so crazed that they don't know a good target when they see it.

There's nothing more bizarre and hypocritical than to demand that soldiers on a military base be disarmed. This farce needs to end.

Yeah, because obviously everyone on the base should have "assault rifles" on their person at all times, that's much safer. Clearly, nobody on base would ever snap and shoot the place up with the weapon provided to them by Uncle Sam.

All u liberals are fixated on assualt rifles. And if any of them had a weapon, it probaly would of minimized the number of deaths in both shootings.
Is everything spelled write,,Chumley

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}


Every command has a duty. Every building should be controlled with a duty. The duties should all be armed, period. Currently only some controlled areas require an armed duty.

Additionally, those who live in base housing should be allowed to at minimum open carry.


It's much safer when some random assortment of citizens are allowed to exercise their right to keep and bear arms. And on a military base, with a lot of assets that need to be more secure than in the usual public space, you'd expect military members to commonly carry firearms.

You Liberals will never understand the right to keep and bear arms. Not fully. You sort of understand, since enough of you have the same selfish drive to protect yourselves. But most of you have an overly selfish urge to DENY the same right to others, particularly the ones you hate most: The rightwing working-class Whites. You know, your enemies.

It's a military base. Just why all the soldiers would be unarmed is more crass stupidity than I'll ever understand.

Then we have our commander in chief, the Ayatollah Obongo, "We'll get to the bottom of this."

Sure we will. We'll get there just as soon as Obongo and his tribe of Moonbats decides just what it is we're supposed to find at the bottom.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

I wonder why shooters don't shoot up police stations? Because there's no soft targets in them?


That Guns Galore should be shut down?

I know, Second Amendment and capitalism and all that blah blah blah, but they sold to an Islamic terrorist who shot up a US military base and they sold to a crazy person who shot up the same military base. They shouldn't be in business anymore and everyone employed by Guns Galore should be blacklisted from the firearms industry.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

And that post qualifies u as barely literate.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

From your link

""If you want to blame somebody, go to the FBI and to the government at Fort Hood, and ask them why someone who was being psychologically evaluated wasn't flagged."

The 34-year-old truck driver from Puerto Rico seemed to have a clean record, but investigators are now poring through Lopez's personal history.

Federal law generally prohibits selling guns to people who've been involuntarily committed to a mental health facility or have been ruled by a court to be a danger to themselves or others. Gun control advocates say that leaves a gaping loophole during computer background checks."

So once again, we don't need more laws. The system for the laws we currently have are broken.


We have enough gun control laws. The problem is the poor manner by which these laws are enforced. In addition, Mikey, your suggestion to, at least, have more "duties" as you describe them, on military bases, seems prudent.
And I don't understand why the military leadership wanted GHW Bush, Clinton, or any other POTUS, to not allow military personnel to carry a personal weapon wherever they go.
If I were a Member of Congress, I would want figures on how many shootings there were both before and after having personal weapons were banned on bases. There should be some statistical evidence upon which to base this policy, not raw emotions either way.

And I want to know why soldiers cannot carry guns, and police officers can. And they're required to carry off duty as well.

You can only carry when "on duty" and when there is an "official need".

The downside is I cannot carry on my personal time. My weapons must be locked and stored with a lock at all times. If someone is attacking me or my family I will lose priceless time unlocking the weapon, retrieving the ammunition from it's storage area, and finally loading. Normally base has lower crime but the incidents of Ft. Hood make one rethink their safety.

I have moved off base in the last year. Very soon I will deploying again. My wife, who is very anti-guns, is concerned for her safety. She wants to buy a handgun for herself. We are exploring options. Safety is her #1 concern and she's open to buying a biometric lock since we have a young child in the home. Luckily we are able to afford something like that.


And, unlike you and your vacuous assertions about mass shooters being, "...overwhelmingly liberal in their philosophy...," I HAVE A LINK TO A REAL NEWS SOURCE!
Here it is, from that far left USA Today website:

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