The Theme On Most Posts Is Basically The Same: The Rich v. The Rest Of Us.

A large number of posts now, seem to be about "The Rich", how terrible they are, and how undeserving they are. Says who? Being bitter about being as poor as most of us doesn't help one bit, and only hurts yourself and your peace of mind. Here's a person who has learned how to deal with being poor, while maintaining his dignity!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl7BVr36bbs

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Trying to distract from the president's lousy record so talk about the rich and minimum wage.

I just flagged this comment as being racist.

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Good move, Comrade Fred. Doing so now qualifies you for 10 percent discount on your ObamaCare policy. Your friends at Organizing for America tell you hello.

Patience is a great virtue.

Yeah your right. This country was in alot better shape when Georgie bush was in office.

Hope I didn't offend anyone!

A lot of Americans who believe they're "poor" wouldn't be anywhere near as poor if they'd just stop consuming like the TV tells them to.

And they don't need to buy health insurance, regardless of what that idiot in the White House says.

Agreed on all counts.

The "poor" in the US is much better living conditions than the poor in other countries.

The President is a hypocrite. He loves to talk about income equality yet he and Democrats have and are pushing for more cuts to the military.

There has not been a significant increase in military pay in the last 6 years. Over 60% of the US military makes a salary below the poverty line. Assuming that the average military member works 60 hours a week (a very reasonable estimate) then over 80% of the military makes an hourly wage of less $9.25 an hour.

I have yet to see the Dems or the President push to increase military pay. Instead the strain of entitlements on the federal budget have caused Dems to want further cuts to the military in an effort to avoid entitlement reform to make them more solvent.

MikeyA

"salary below the poverty line"

Does that include the costs of housing, food and health care? When I was in the USAF, I received food, housing and health care at no cost to me. I was even provided transportation to my work site (Cheyenne Mountain, aka NORAD). One could even say that I was provided with free legal services via the judge advocates (i.e. lawyers) on the base. These things were hardly fringe benefits; they were directly applied to my lifestyle.

If the government were a corporation, they're currently hemorrhaging money and have been doing so since 2001. You're complaining because they haven't raised everyone's salary in six years and that corporate is closing the St. Paul & Little Rock plants. I hate to break it to you, but Target stopped stocking our products a few years ago and Walmart is slowly shrinking our shelf space, layoffs and pay freezes are going to be a thing for a while.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

If the government were a coporation the hemorraging money wouldn't be from payroll, it would be for paying pensions. I support entitlement reform and stopping the hemorraging.

GZ, you may not have paid for food, housing, and healthcare when you were in the military but I assure you they pay for all of them now.

HB, I suppose you support raising the minimum wage to over $10 per hour? So you should support doing the same with the military right?

MikeyA

GZ, you may not have paid for food, housing, and healthcare when you were in the military but I assure you they pay for all of them now.

So let me get this straight: If I were age 18 and enlisted today, becoming a freshly minted E-1, I'd have to pay cash money for my meals at the base chow hall, pay cash money in rent for my barracks room, and pay either directly (cash-for-service) or indirectly (insurance) to use the base hospital?

Mind if I ask how much those meals, rent and cash/insurance costs are?

What they do is they deduct it from your pay before you set foot into the chow hall whether you eat there or not. Of note chow halls are not open 24/7 only during set meal hours.

For meals an enlisted member is deducted $18 a day. I know this because when we send them on travel the unit pays $18 per day if they are lodged on a military installation. Also when they go on leave and turn in their card they are reimbursed that ammount for the period they are on leave.

As for housing and healthcare I do not know off hand what an enlisted member pays. I can only tell you what I pay but I cannot say if both are scaled for rank, housing is scaled. For me living on base I received a $1,200 a month allowance for housing which was completely deducted and given to the contractor who runs housing. If a family exceeds their "allotted" gas, power, or water allowance they are then charged for the remainder.

MikeyA

OK, so they make enlisted men pay to use the chow hall now. But you just said you received a housing allowance, which is exactly how it happened when I was in the USAF in the 80s. You either got housing on base at no cost to you, or you received permission to live off-base and then you got a housing allowance. In other words, your housing was free, hence became a benefit, which you must take into account when claiming that military members are poorly paid. Housing costs are about 1/4 of gross income for the average citizen, or about 1/3 of net income. Therefore, providing housing to an employee means they get a gross 33% increase in pay. Rule of thumb, you understand.

Googling shows that an E-1 (the lowest enlisted grade) gets about $1530 per month, gross. I don't do funny math with hours... I use the 40hr work week. Some work longer hours, true, but the same is true for the salaried private sector. Hence, an E-1 is paid about $9.50/hr. But his housing benefit makes that the equivalent of $12.70/hr. That's hardly being poorly paid, considering median individual income in the USA is about $11.50/hr.

In addition, you're hired off the street and are given training for the job. How much is that paid training worth? My electronics schooling for my 4-yr enlistment was probably worth $4000-6000 in today's money, and that's being conservative.

Although I'll never be one, I consider the "rich" to be positive role models.

Bernie Madoff will always be my hero, too.

Patience is a great virtue.

Which leads to this:

Essay: Anatomy of the Deep State
http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/

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How often are you going to post the same bullshit over and over DMHI? Don't you ever get tired of it? We've seen your charts from biased sources, watch funny man Carlin do his bit while people paid high ticket prices to see him. and your deep state crap is nothing more than deep doo doo. If anything on this board needs fixing it should be a limit on the number of times one person can post the same crap. The "underserved" get more service than anyone else and they don't pay for it, I do.
Does your anger about the non inheritance run so deep that you hate everyone who has more than you do? I mean it must bother you quite a bit since you created a whole blog about it for cryin' out loud. I've had death and divorce in my life but I didn't take to the internet to blog about it.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

George Carlin has long ago figured out what you refused to admit. The owners of this country got you by the balls Fred but we all know that ClearChannel WSPD Fred cannot fathom the obvious:

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

~Upton Sinclair~

P.S.- Who's retired and who's working well into their late sixties? Who's desperate for money and will say and do anything for a regular paycheck? The readers need to remember that Fred's an "At Will" employee that works at the pleasure of Bain Radio. He shills for a living, selling soap, changing his persona more often than a Chameleon changes spots. Look how he's changed in the last year and forgotten his former boss Herr Wilson's Libertarian ideology? A regular pathetic management suck up!

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The owners of the country only have us by the short hairs because we let them, and by "let them" I'm really saying that we keep buying their stuff, using their credit lines, and thereby become totally enslaved to them.

We chose these chains. Don't you dare imply they were imposed.

tWB, talk about posting the same bullshit over and over, your the poster child for this you mumbles wilson ball sucking loser. LOL

Hope I didn't offend anyone!

Again, the same crap as always. Fred's an at will employee-you realize don't you that that also means I work there because I choose to. Fred's working into his late 60's- I'm 63 this year asshole, that's not late 60s, and again because I choose to, Fred has changed in the last year-really? can you show us how, I still believe in small govt, personal responsibility, uselessness of public sector unions, dems and reps being same damn thing, taxes being too high, the fed out of control, maybe you can point out the changes.
You are so full of crap most days, You say you don't listen but then expect people to believe what you say about me. You don't listen but you always seem to know what's being said and what I'm hawking. You don't listen but I live in your head rent free.
Really you are so pathetic. Carlin was/is a comedian you fool. Talk about changing over the years he went from hippy dippy pot smoker to clarion caller for the little man. I don't suppose the fact that he could sell out an arena with the right message had anything to do with it.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Now MrIndependent was having a nice conversation about the theme of this thread and some former Hippie from WSPD turned it personal. The has-been loser radio host attacks me for no apparent reason but to unleash his internal rage from a life of bad decisions. Is it my fault he made uneducated life choices? Seems the host is infatuated by the Wolfman. The voices in his head continue to change the subject and inflect his personal demons into every aspect of his miserable existence.

As for the sixties crack well I should of said seventies, my bad. We all know, well some of us know, that before your divorce your life savings were pretty pathetic for a man who espouses hard work and self determination. God knows what that post divorce picture looks like now but it can't be good. I guess if anyone had such a dismal future outlook they would surely be quick to fly off the handle at anytime and any given moment. Got to be grinding your teeth telling your radio audience about cutting "entitlements" such as Social Security and Medicare. Hell the way it looks Fredo will be the biggest most dependent beneficiary of these two programs.

As for listening to your program well you pretty much cured me of that. I do scan the AM dial for intelligent thought but are mostly disappointed by the repetitive nature of the propaganda AM networks. If one listens to one minute of every hour you can get the day's message loud and clear. Mostly now Fredo looks to repair his damaged radio image after his foolish walk with Herr Wilson. The cynical host thinks he can redeem his flawed radio career by chuckling it up with his ignorant dittoheads who sound as if they just found out the Confederacy lost the war. Its sad to see the younger more wise afternoon host catch the big names while the defeated is relegated to the shadows of the WSPD closet.

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You scan Radioland for intelligent thought? May I offer a more sensible approach? Read a variety of newspapers.

Patience is a great virtue.

Yes I do that but the one I've been reading for decades has turned its limited sized paper into the Dog Tribune. Now I like dogs but please! When the Sunday paper has a pooch on the front page you got to wonder. Seems somethings going on over there in the last year. When stories like the Trans Pacific Partnership are ignored and fido gets top billing well it kind of insults the buyer. I E-mailed my displeasure about not covering the 20th anniversary of NAFTA. No reply. Damn you'd think they would cover trade agreements that affect a manufacturing town like Toledo. But we get the ole bow wow stories in depth and detail day in and day out. Do they know that their paper is getting less attention than it use too? I mean its losing its creditability with all the fluff and no substance.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

By "variety," I meant papers such as the Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, The Guardian and New York Times. And, of course, The Onion.

Patience is a great virtue.

I certainly agree--talk about something else, FOR CHRISSAKE! None of us here gives a good goddam about your continual dialectic between union propaganda, and the evil robber barons from the early days of the Industrial Revolution! Any more than we give a f-word about ACs' self pity over getting tossed from another site, i.e., like yesterdays' rubbish.

And another thing, mri. Fred OWNS you, he's inside your head. Now, it's my turn. Any time any sort of annoying thing happens to you, such as getting cut off in traffic, bumping your head, stubbing your toe, dropnig something, etc., start the following chant: "G-Man, G-Man, G-man, G-Man, G-Man, G-Man, G-Man---------". Also, if you sit on your front porch in a state of trembling ecstacy, waiting for the next issue of "'Solidarity" to arrive-chant some more!

[admin edit dirty mouth] The only thing WB owns is a blow up doll. [admin edit dirty mouth]

Hope I didn't offend anyone!

They do play by the same rules. Please note these are a SET of rules, and they are truly voluminous, which is what we Libertarians have warned you partisans about for decades. As rule sets grow ever more complicated, the rich naturally benefit, since only they can afford to navigate those rule sets.

Reduce the size and complications of government and you'll find your natural liberties returning to you... including the liberty to starve. There's no other option. Huge government is a social perversity.

Would laissez- fare be better, no rules at all?

It's not the size of the government, or the amount of laws; it's who wields the power. I'm all for the rich, but It's supposed to be WE THE PEOPLE with the power when it comes to government. That means rich and poor alike. The laws our representatives make should protect us all, but the rich use their wealth to influence the laws to their own advantage.

I say:

Reduce the amount of influence the rich have on the government and you'll find our natural liberties returning... including, as you put, “the liberty to starve”.

Those who are always throwing up the “small government is best” meme need to remember the smallest governments are monarchies and dictatorships. I call those social perversity.

Would laissez- fare be better, no rules at all?

No, the happy compromise was better. The median point between no rules, and a huge bureaucracy. It's called minimal government with 100% enforcement. It's possible to get that done since penalties should actually be PENAL. So what little law-breaking happens in that environment, can still be handled by a minimal government.

Today we have a huge bureaucracy with little actual enforcement. What enforcement that does happen falls disproportionately upon the poor (physical crimes) or the middle class (paper-based crimes).

And you can't reduce the amount of influence the rich have on the government . Your government already runs on a money-only focus. Therefore the rich will ALWAYS be able to subvert it. Therefore you need less government. It's totally obvious. The common man needs to vote down government expansion since he can't control what's here anyway. In other words, less is more. Less oppression is more liberty. Let's let the rich actually experience the free market for once.

Domestic accomplishments of President Roosevelt:
Developed the "Square Deal," a domestic program formed around three C's: conservation of natural resources, control of corporations, and consumer protection
Promoted the conservation movement and placed millions of acres of land under federal protection to preserve America's natural resources
Dissolved 44 monopolistic corporations and regulated railroad rates to protect the middle and working class
Passed the Meat Inspection Act and Pure Food and Drug Act to better regulate food production and labeling

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Domestic accomplishments of President Roosevelt:
Developed the "Square Deal," a domestic program formed around three C's: conservation of natural resources, control of corporations, and consumer protection
Promoted the conservation movement and placed millions of acres of land under federal protection to preserve America's natural resources
Dissolved 44 monopolistic corporations and regulated railroad rates to protect the middle and working class
Passed the Meat Inspection Act and Pure Food and Drug Act to better regulate food production and labeling

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

You liberals ALWAYS leave out Roosevelt and Executive Order 9066, don't you? That's the one that tossed over 100,000 Japanese AMERICANS into CONCENTRATION CAMPS during WW2. Why's that? It seems like the New Deal, morphed into a Raw Deal to me. But why not, since most of the slave owners in the Deep South were democrats, and drafted the Jim Crow in the years after the Civil War ended. MRI, what the hell kind of a sanctimonious hypocrite are you, anyway?

http://classes.maxwell.syr.edu/soc248/JapaneseIntern.html

Where talking Theodore Roosevelt don't ya know!

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