If it saves just one life

Apparently the union workers at GM are putting out a bad product. Now my question is, what's the difference between a union made car that kills people and a non union made car that kills people? One costs a lot less.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140225/BUSINESS0101/302250111/general-mot...

General Motors said Tuesday it will expand its recall of vehicles with faulty ignition switches to include 1.37 million cars for model years 2003-2007.
GM now says it knows of 13 deaths and 31 crashes that may have been caused by the problem with the ignition switch. Previously, it said it knew of 22 crashes, including five in which airbags did not deploy and six people were killed.
It expanded the recall by more than 588,000 vehicles to 1.37 million throughout North America.

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Interesting that the Tesla Model S is the only vehicle made by a U.S. company on that list.

Something else might be going on here too, Fred. The article you linked to, indicates that the switches are faulty. But, as usual, the blame goes to the assemblers. I worked on an assembly line for several years. Management provides us with our parts. Union workers aren't asked for ANY input in this matter. So why is this situation being dumped on us? I'm betting the switches are made in some distant hellhole, by NON-UNION workers.

and make all of the important decisions are always right because RICH PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!! Common workers, who know their jobs better than anyone else and could make many cogent suggestions, are never right, because they're not rich!! So the rich executives make decisions without input from the "lowly" workers, then blame unions when their products are inferior.
I may be wrong, but I haven't met a union leader yet who ever selected one part to be placed in one car assembled at one UAW-organized plant. AND...and this is a big AND...how long are we going to keep hearing about unions ruining America, when we have virtually no private sector unions left? The last statistic I saw, [I know. Here I go with those nasty facts again which ideologues hate.] showed that private sector union membership is down to 6.6% of the private sector workforce. If this figure ever gets to zero, will you ideologues STILL be blaming unions for the decisions made at the executive level????

Automotive News reports the ignition switches were made by Delphi Mechatronics of Troy, Mich.

Patience is a great virtue.

That is an inconvenient fact DW. It is still the rich who decide what ignition switch to use. It's the rich who determine what type of wire, condensors, and other parts go into the switch. The rich only use the least expensive parts in order to increase the bottom line.

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read ANYTHING W. Edwards Deming ever wrote! Deming started his career in the 1920s, built a distinguished resume in the 1930s, and became a savior to Japan following World War II. For one thing, unlike many Americans who were sent to "help" post-war Japan recover, Ed Deming treated the Japanese people with respect and showed respect for their culture!
After Deming helped so much to transform Japan from a beaten, bludgeoned, vanquished enemy into a productive, modern economic powerhouse, you'd think more American industrial leaders would "wake up and smell the coffee!" Their success in implementing Deming's "14 points" management method led to the Japanese establishing awards in his name for innovative industrial use of statistics and for building an atmosphere of cooperation and loyalty within a given business entity. It wasn't until the 1980s, long after the Japanese economic miracle had blossomed, that some American industrialists looked seriously at Deming's writings and started asking for his assistance in doing a better job for their companies!
And, if one reads what too many corporate executives still state, and what many ideologues buy into as factual, every time there is a screw-up at some company, it's a union's fault, even if it's a non-union company! They find some way to blame common workers and their unions. Just like in the song, "If I Were a Rich Man, "And it won't make one bit of difference if I answer right or wrong. When you're rich, they think you really know."
BTW -- The average common worker in Japan receives almost exactly the same compensation as does his/her American counterpart. The average compensation for a CEO in Japan is $2,400,000, hardly chicken feed. The average CEO among the S&P 500 companies receives $12,300,000!! And as if this "extra" $10,000,000 per year isn't enough waste, think of all of the lower level executives in all of those companies who still receive more than the average CEO in Japan.
For the sake of argument, let's set aside the "fairness" issue that riles up so many conservative ideologues. In economics, it is called "opportunity costs." No matter how one spends money, there are always alternative ways to spend that money. How could that money be better put to use than "wasting" it by over-compensating corporate executives? The possible uses boggle the mind! R&D? Infrastructure of the physical plant? Productivity audits? And these are just off the top of my head!

They released a list of vehicles to AVOID....here are the Small SUVs

■ Jeep Compass (2.4-liter engine is rough and sluggish ... cabin is cramped, cheaply trimmed)

■ Jeep Patriot (compliant ride and mostly simple controls. But little else stands out.)

■ Jeep Cherokee with 2.4-liter engine (half-baked ... under-powered and not very fuel-efficient, and the nine-speed automatic transmission is unrefined and unresponsive)

■ Mitsubishi Outlander (handles clumsily, the ride is fairly stiff, and the interior feels cheap)

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The Jeep employees must have had a bad batch of weed when they were assembling these models.

Now that GM has admitted they knew of the ignition problem years ago expect lawsuits to follow. Personally I hope each family who lost someone because of GM's actions wins HUGE in court. This is really big business out of hand. I don't recall any of the Bain Capital companies having a record this bad. When will Obama speak on this topic I wonder?

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I don't think lawsuits go quite far enough. Somewhere down the line someone approved the use of these switches. Actually, it would be somebody way UP the line who is responsible. In this case, I believe criminal sanctions should be pursued.

C'mon, G-MAN!! It was probably a union official who approved the faulty switch. Or, maybe it was a line worker who is a union member. Everything that's bad at UAW-organized auto plants in this country is the fault of the union members and union leaders. Right? RIGHT??
Common folks and union leaders make mistakes and/or are negligent. Rich people and/or high ranking executives are NEVER at fault!! Geesh!

GM's top suits approved the part modification suggested by Delphi, according to industry news reports I've read. Negligent-homicide or manslaughter charges seem appropriate to me.

Patience is a great virtue.

It had to be some union stooge's fault! It just had to be!!

"And it won't make one bit of difference, if I answer right or wrong. When you're rich, they think you really know."

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