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Great reminder from Chris/administrators about behavior - This site is not one that pulls down things on a whim. Most items will stay up, but sometimes things said in the items here can cause real problems. As most of you know, there is a high threshold for what can be posted here, so an admin editing an item means that your comment or post is really trash, seriously-get a clue.

My only problem with this is that once the info is posted it can be taken down, but it's out there. People have copied it, posted it elsewhere maybe, filed it away. People who go out of their way to post private info should just be banned all together. I'm sure others will not agree.

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Fred, while you don't hurl F-bombs and don't, as far as I know, respond to your critics with sexual slurs, your frequent use of gratuitous name-calling can be just as insulting. Ask yourself, "Will calling someone a 'stupid twit' strengthen or weaken my argument?"

Patience is a great virtue.

I don't worry about that DW, it's just the internet. If any of these stupid twits had the balls to call the show or come up to me in person when I'm in public and engage me in conversation I'd be civil to them But they don't of course, they hide behind fake names while trying to out everyone else.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Incivility is incivility. You shouldn't hide behind, "it's just the internet."
And really, call into your show? Where you are entirely in control? Right.
I hope that you would be civil in person. Having never met you, I have no idea, but I take you at your word.

I gotta tell you Dale it just doesn't matter to me what you think.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

I am not a listener. I add nothing to the bottom line. You rely on the bottom line to keep your job. You don't have to care what I think. As I stated before, your handle here says it all...fredericktheentertainer.
Pardon me if I don't take anything you post seriously, since you're just posting it to reinforce an image for ratings purposes. If anyone else does take your postings seriously, well, that's their free choice.

Ibid., Dale.

Patience is a great virtue.

Why on earth would anyone call into a show where the host runs around on the Internet saying things like "If any of these stupid twits had the balls to call the show"?
Yeah, nobody with an opposing viewpoint is going to feel like they're going to get a fair shake now, it'll be all the like-minded people calling in, and they're welcome to it as that'll only hasten the demise as any semblance of fairness or balance disappears. It's a feedback loop that turns into another echo chamber.

I wouldn't come on the show even if WSPD and Fred agreed to pay me or donate $10k to a charity of THEIR choice, because Fred and his handpicked people would, in my considered opinion, be sitting on the mute button, mic volume dials, and commercial break cuts just like any other big-headed politically biased talk program and using them to their advantage. No different than the shows where the host talks all over the guests when the host is on the losing end (Bill O'Reilly for example) or the callers get dropped (Limbaugh).

But if Fred wants to talk about balls, he wouldn't dare turn anyone down who proposed an independently moderated debate with terms/rules mutually agreed to beforehand. Heck, maybe such a thing could be held over at the CAC! We could stream it to YouTube live without editing. Maybe we could even rig up a buzzer/electroshock system with counter so every time either side engaged in a logical fallacy or personal attack the judges get to shock the offender and a point is taken away from them. I'd tune into that, heck I'd put $5 for Pay Per View of it.

Tried calling WSPD. Fred, Maggie, Herr Wilson would all either hang up or pot over the caller to make themselves look in control when they were actually losing the argument. One time I so infuriated them they made a commercial out of my call. Played it for a week. So now I mainly call on the weekends where saner heads can talk without all the unethical hijinks. This is the main reason I came to the blogs because of the controlled environment on the radio not allowing freedom of speech.

Also Fred fails to tell you he blocks anyone who disagrees with him on the WSPD Facebook site.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Caller ID block not working when you dial?

Now I don't want this to sound like a personal vendetta. You know I've been accused of making this a personal vendetta. This is about freedom of speech. If a person can't call his local radio station without being manipulated then he generally gives up and lets the Kiss A$$ dittoheads have a circle jerk. I attacked the ClearChannel corporate theme that WSPD turned into not necessary any one person till they attacked me personally for being outspoken. I find it ironic that WSPD has a Code of Business Conduct and Ethics that the employees are to follow, but they don't. I've been blocked from WSPD Facebook and Toledo Talk plus on and off on here. Most times its the same two who initiate the blocks, complaining while doing the same thing. Seldom do I complain. If I do its publicly posted on the blog.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Fred's classic Exhibit A of harassment. Let me explain to the watching audience. I am usually up past 3 AM every night. I don't generally listen to Fred because, A: I think he's stupid and B: his show is from 6-9 AM! The day in question I received a phone call from one of my unlucky friends who work a real job about this teacher who was giving Fredo the business about his usual crap, insulting teachers. So I chimed in with a couple of hours of sleep to give him the business for hanging up on a teacher he couldn't compete with. This is what he does. He hangs up on you if you don't agree with him. If you agree they use to give you a prize. I don't know if they do that anymore cause I don't listen generally. I do listen to Treece's on the net cause I find his stuff interesting. But for most part I use my I Pad to find what I need cause ClearChannel has shut down progressive radio stations across the country.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

DMHI says, and I quote " This is what he does. He hangs up on you if you don't agree with him. " however if you listen to the entire clip you will hear DMHI hang up on me.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Mr. Independent, you're one of reasons this discussion is being held. You constantly use slurs like "Wilson's bitch" and go digging into court records to try to find information on a perceived enemy's marital status. And after episodes of your flamethrowing, you try to pass yourself off as a fife-playing patriot exercising his freedom-of-speech rights. It's pathetic.

Patience is a great virtue.

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" Thanks DonWert - those years in baseball gave you wisdom beyond your years.

My doctor told me all those beanings had no negative effects. At least I think he told me that.

Patience is a great virtue.

Now now before we gang up on the Wolfman lets review the past. Who among you is without sin? "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her" John 8:7 All have done the same crap at one time or another. The Batman Robin team of Fredricktheentertainer & MikeyA have been some of the worst offenders. Not to long ago Chris had a purge of offenders some of the worse of the worse, many as he has reported have chose to not come back. So Fredrick is again piling on as DonWert claims I do. Nothing I've reported about the public person Fred cannot be gleaned from the internet or should I say use to be able. Same goes for MikeyA who has, along with Fredrick, mucked up any and all legitimate discussions I've tried to post including this one. If I'm guilty by this kangaroo court of anything it my weakness to engage with like kind voracity. Of that I apologize!

Oh Chris while I'm not appreciative of your comments here I do thank you for tolerating my right to free speech.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Wow, Paul the Pariah is in full force!

Interesting events here:

Booted off Toledo Talk - Of course it wasn't your fault.

Publically outed on blog sites by Cassie Wilson for spreading misinformation - again, not your fault.

Put in a time out by Chris - Of course, its not your fault.

The common theme here is you. You need to take a long hard look in the mirror.

Don't like what is on the radio? Turn the channel. If listeners tune out, then the market will dictate whether Fred stays or not. If individuals such as you continue to listen (and it is evident you do) and you continue a vendetta against him and said radio station, you will drive people to listen to the station, which helps advertising.

If you want to have a decent discussion, trying taking a look at Dale Pertcheck's responses. While I don't always agree with him, he does a decent job of debating. Presents his side, keeps namecalling and emotion to a minimum, stays on topic, and actually sounds like he knows what he is talking about.

You would think that someone that is retired would have better things to do with their time rather than sit and argue on blogs...

AccountantDan most of what you said you've said before ad nauseam. All those events you list were related and orchestrated and you have no way of knowing the particulars. I can pick it apart but you won't listen anyhow because your mind is set. So what's the point? If it makes you feel good then have at it.

The one thing that resonates is this thinking of free markets driving our public airwaves. Just because you think a station should be driven by ratings doesn't mean the public is being served. All this crap with WSPD began with Wilson as program manager. WSPD was always a local news station, giving Toledoans breaking local news and weather for decades. That was lost with the corporatization of our airwaves for profit. Now we are propagandized without balance in a medium that all have access. My beef has always been for balance on WSPD. After all, the airwaves use to belong to the public. I do give the new program director Scott Sands credit for softening the extremism on WSPD. He also has brought back the news and weather that the former clown wouldn't do. I have suggested he give more balance to his lineup in a town that is overwhelmingly Democratic. I think he would entertain it but the corporation has set the guidelines of what the public is to be fed. They generally lost me a few years ago when the country was purged of progressive stations by ClearChannel. I have resorted to a new costly medium for my search for balance that many cannot afford and what corporate WSPD wouldn't deliver to its local market, balance.

You see Dan I want to make up my own mind after all the news is delivered. Choice is most important not being fed a steady diet of one-sided opinion and make believe thinktank interviews.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Bingo. Fred is a hypocrite and him calling everyone else out while he engages in the same behavior and further (posting Photoshops etc). is a prime example of his hypocrisy. He can dish it out but can't take it.

How can someone named Wolfman post this on a roland hansen site and still post here? Apparently he is lying about his status on this site.
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Roland it appears Fred has struck again! After reposting a photo-shopped picture from one of Fred's previous posts I was deactivated/blocked from SwampBubbles. The postings I've done are of no worse than any others on SB. Only difference I don't complain to the blog administrator. Seems some bloggers have thin skins when the tables are turned or their arguments are weak. So the Hate Radio Host continues unchallenged making his uneducated pronouncements with impunity and in violation of ClearChannel's Employee Code of Conduct. So I say farewell to the Toledo Bloggers and move on to new horizons where free speech is protected.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

gives me a chuckle every time I see it, although it is no longer valid given the changes at WSPD. If that was the only reason, then it would not be the case. Those familiar with MrIndependent's postings over the last several weeks know the pattern that earned him a 10 hr stay in the penalty box to rethink strategy and to hopefully encourage a change of direction. Once I spend a certain amount of time outside of the site dealing with the issues, including with people not affiliated with the site, then the patience wears thin. MrIndependent when asked was told how long it will be.

ever given any more thought to an ignore button?

and a wide variety of alternate listening choices. Not so much in talk radio as I'd like, but yelling at my dash-board instead of singing while driving is so much safer and better for my blood pressure.

I learned long ago that using my freedom of choice, and not my raise my voice and engage his game on his turf, is the best way to handle old Freddy -- and his echo chamber. Likewise, I usually (mentally) block this site from my awareness (if not my RSS feed) since it long ago became Fred's fevered swamp. -crappy pun intended. As he presents himself, he's merely an entertainer, really more of an imitator, and IMO a mediocre one at that. Even Fred would agree that if he truly had a more engaging persona he would have moved up and out to a bigger market with better weather in a heart beat. (And if not, then he's got more issues than we'll ever know.)

Absolutely agree with everything mark has said.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

There is so much I can do. If someone was at a park passing around papers with the same information, one would not blame the park but the person. Once I start editing the site extensively then I start getting into a status that makes me responsible for everything, so it really comes down to the extremes. Every case is different and every case requires research and sometimes I agree, other times I don't.

Just because one does not see warm bodies here does not shirk people of the responsibility of warm bodies. If someone does something that is criminal or something that makes them civilly liable they will be found no matter what their username says. You can't be irresponsible and expect to be protected.

To give you an example about the case-by-case research, several years ago someone complained about their personal information was on this site. A Google search revealed that their personal information was everywhere, including disclosed by the person complaining on another site. I told them no.

Another instance, the information was no where and it really appeared to be trolling and served no purpose, so that was edited.

Every instance, I look at what was said, the context of it and judge each case on its merits.

The reality is almost anyone can find someone's address if you own a house or vote and there are lots of contact sites on the Web which gives out data too. Addresses are not really private information in 2014. For $10 you can also subscribe to a Web site that does more personal searches, so it is hard to stay private anymore.

I also posted that page because many people have questions about what I do and it has been a longstanding request, so I used the opportunity to clarify it and create a special page on the menu so everyone can reference it.

This site costs $600 to run a year and does not include my time. Right now with a new little mouth to feed, I don't have the patience to deal with the issues which I should not be dealing with. I consider this site a community service which is why I continue to support it, but users should not make me regret it. I believe in free speech and having an outlet to post if you feel you are being denied somewhere else. As everyone knows or has seen, people do take advantage of this and go too far, and there are really some serious losers here such as Phakit Mann and the 100 different accounts that person created. Those with personal vendettas or using the site for your craziness like PhakitMann, should not use this site for these purposes. There is a ton of things which affect our lives that this site can help filter out - that is what this is for and that is why I still believe in. Let's please consider this when you post here.

This country-city-county is in bad shape, use the time and this site to work to make it better.

keep this site going. Unlike many here, I do NOT go around the web looking for places to post my obviously partisan views. You allow me to post here, even though we agree on only about 10% of political issues.
I, too, consider this site to be a community service, and I appreciate what you do. You have improved this site since I first started posting here several years ago. Some common misspellings are even corrected before I spot them. (I'm a terrible typist.)
At this point, without extensive training, I could never do what you do on this site. My daughter is a computer whiz, but, having a family, does she have the time to do something like you do here? Do you? Not really. But you do so anyway!
Once again, I give you my sincere thanks!
BTW Chris -- We did meet (not formally) and speak in person some years ago, when I was still teaching and you were running for the TPS school board. You were courteous and respectful. I wish that everyone who posts here would live up to your high standards. We should be able to disagree without using personal invectives, profanity, and/or crude sexual references.

I believe I met you long before that at in the computer labs at the University of Toledo. I checked people in and I am pretty sure I remember your name - could be my memory is failing me.

I enjoy building this site, I wish I had more time to devote to it. I have lots of plans, just not the time to implement them. But now that things are getting more stable and my workload has calmed down a bit including the new mouth, I want to invest more in this site. There is a list of things that need done.

People can make points and not agree, too bad all of the posters were not more like yourself DaleP.

at UT at various times, and I did use the computer lab. For a while, I also checked people into a computer lab for the Political Science Department in the 1990s. You have the advantage of me here. I'm glad your memory of me is not one of my being a pompous fool.

I do appreciate your kind words. You and I agree to disagree without being disagreeable. May I just reiterate, the respect is mutual between us, even though the politics are quite different.

Yes

that was when I was there and I believe I served a tour or two in the Political Science computer lab when needed. My impression of you was someone who was always researching and doing serious work - I am sure that is no different now. That was a dark place in U Hall unless I am getting it confused with the Economics Lab. I always respect someone who posts with their name and who can debate without personal attacks. Also, why your comments have never been flagged nor people complain about you. Keep up the good work.

I actually enjoy doing research. I find it to be stimulating. Some of the most rewarding work I did as an activist and officer with the Ohio Federation of Teachers involved doing research and writing resolutions regarding important issues affecting teaching and learning in Ohio for consideration of that state organization.
And I post with my name because I stand behind what I state. I learned a LLOONNGG time ago, it's much easier to be honest than to lie. It's easier to remember the truth of my beliefs, because the truth of my beliefs never changes. And, as Thomas Jefferson said, "The man who fears no truths has nothing to fear from lies."
Having your respect means a lot to me.
Thanks again, Chris.

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