KNOCKOUT GAME, WHITE MAN GETS FEDERAL CONVICTION

This white guy said I can play this game to, and be recognized for it like the blacks can..

White Guy Accused Of 'Knockout Game' Attack On Blacks, faces federal hate crime. WOW! I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY BLACKS BEING CONVICTED UNDER THIS CHARGE. JUST SAYING. What's wrong with this picture. So far its only a hate crime when its against blacks...

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How easy it is to forget that Blacks and other minorities are attacked all the time. Not only are they attacked but some are tortured, lynched, shot, and burned.

Chuckie really like you guys that need to reach back 150yrs and bring it into the present. Give it up just won't wash anymore.

Deny it if you want to, but there have been many incidents in the last 20 years. How convienent to forget.

List some.

I'll call your bluff.

Texas - Two men drug a Black man behind their truck decapitating him

KKK - Lynched and killed an innocent teenager. Klan was sued by the boys mother and won.

A group of skin heads in Washington State beat to death a man because he was Asian.

2012 violent crimes committed by Whites against non-whites because of race 6,600,000, or 69.3% of racially motivated violent crimes because of race.

Site your stats. You're not reliable enough to go on your word.

Google. It's all there.

That's what I thought. More liberal crap with no back up.

More conservative crap. Refusal to see the truth, only what serves an Un-American Agenda.

It's the truth, because he says so.

If you can't trust an anonymous liberal partisan on a local chat board where there's little to hold them accountable then who can you trust?

MikeyA

I ask no more of you than I provide myself. I put my proof in the SAME post as when I cite facts. I guess that's too much to ask. Sorry, it wont happen again. Feel free to get back in the handout line.

More conservative crap.
Submitted by zeyadcharles on Tue, 2013-12-03 09:03.
More conservative crap. Refusal to see the truth, only what serves an Un-American Agenda.

Really Zey Un-American agenda, you got that twisted. Most of your Brother Obama's policies and agenda's are Un-American, stop lying to yourself...you can't be that stupid...

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

"2012 violent crimes committed by Whites against non-whites because of race 6,600,000, or 69.3% of racially motivated violent crimes because of race."

Where did you get this statistic? Don't just say "Google". Cite your source.

Zeyad is playing the usual Liberal game. Too bad the FBI is there to smack his lunacy down.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2010/narratives/hate-cri...

"In 2010, the races of the 6,008 known hate crime offenders were as follows:

o 58.6 percent were white.
o 18.4 percent were black.
o 8.9 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (multiple races, group).
o 1.1 percent were Asian/Pacific Islander.
o 1.0 percent were American Indian/Alaskan Native.
o 12.0 percent were of unknown race."

Interesting stats. The positive identification of 18.4% Black means Blacks commit 40% more hate crimes than their racial fraction (13.1%) would indicate. The White number indicates the opposite; they commit 7% less hate crimes than their racial fraction (63.0%) would indicate. There's uncertainty mixed up in the "unknown race" number, but we'll sensibly assume everybody went into that number equally due to equal circumstantial biases.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Zeyad can't fight the numbers. Blacks are very much prone to committing hate crimes. In fact, any violent crime.

This is Zey's cue to scream that the FBI is racist, that facts are racist, that our mothers didn't raise us right, etc. Meanwhile, people who are sane keep doing the sane thing: When you see a group of Black youths, you watch them carefully. You remain alert and ready to defend yourself, much like you would around any wild animal.

Or you move away from Blacks so that you don't have to perform constant vigilance. Many Whites have chosen that. In fact, many middle class and upper class Blacks do the same.

Where did your information come from? The KKK website?

Let me get this straight: CENSUS.GOV and FBI.GOV are run by the Klu Klux Klan?

...

Did you take your Lithium-based medication today?

Like Billy, GZ properly cited where he got his information.

It would behoove you to follow their example. You are losing an intellectual arguement.

MikeyA

He is losing an Intellectual argument, after this statement below, how can you associate Intellectual and Zey as a parallel reference....

Submitted by zeyadcharles on Tue, 2013-12-03 09:03.
More conservative crap. Refusal to see the truth, only what serves an Un-American Agenda

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Your analysis of this sucks. 12% of unknown race means the race is unknown. "Equal circumstantial bias" isn't a phrase with any meaning, particularly if you aren't aware of the circumstances of those 12% of cases.

Hawaii does not participate in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.

You didn't mention that the UCR collects data from law enforcement, not courts. Prepend "accused" before "offender". How many were tried? How many convicted?

I don't know if Zeyad can "fight the numbers" but you don't have the numbers you think you do.

What he means by equal circumstantial bias is if you take that 12% and you apply the same ratios to it as you do the rest of the population because the race is unknown then you will reduce the chance of error.

It's actually done in other parts of statistical analysis like poll. 12% will give you a large error rate. Yet that 12% is a random sample of the total sample. There is a strong likelihood that it will resemble the rest of the sample because it is truly random. By applying equal circumstances to it you reduce the error rate to say +-3 which is quite common error rate for large population samples.

MikeyA

Sucks - My logic about bias is reasonable. You don't know the circumstances either. If there's better information out there, then present it. End of story.

Hawaii - HI has 1.4M people (2012). Of 313M (US, 2012) that's 0.4% unaccounted for. That's statistically insignificant since I captured 99.6% of the matter.

Offender - Are you really trying to squash the truth of the matter by dissing FBI data that way? I'm not the first man to notice these things anyway:

Blacks arrested more for 'hate crimes'
http://www.wnd.com/2001/03/8380/

In addition, the Liberals seem to love how "hate crimes" were reported, even though it condemns Blacks disproportionately than Whites. Let's get right down to it about precisely why:

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-crimes-law/c/hate-crimes-faq.html

"For reporting purposes, it does not matter whether or not the perpetrators of the crime were ever charged with a hate crime. Example: A vandal throws a brick through the window of a Jewish person’s house. The words “Gas all Jews” appear on the brick. The vandal is never caught. Law enforcement should properly record this act as a hate crime and it should be counted in the FBI’s annual HCSA report. For reporting purposes, it does not matter that no one was ever charged with a hate crime."

That might explain the "unknown" category of offenders. They ran away.

Got any more sage advice, Lucid? I don't know of you noticed or not, but when I reply to things, I bother doing my homework first. Naturally all homework is incomplete. This is a hint-hint for you... if you have ANY data that shows Whites get convicted of hate crimes at a disproportionately high rate, then present it. I can see from basic seraches that conviction rates are hard to find.

Blacks get reported more than Whites because the system is set up that way.

Ok, how?

MikeyA

Ok, how?

MikeyA

Another statement with no back up. ZChuck modus operandi...

Don't need any backup. It's out there for you to search for it. Just take your itty bitty fingers and press the keys on your keyboard.

Hey, no worry. The NRA keeps track of stats of under-reported armed defense statistics, particularly the ones where people brandish guns but don't actually fire them (hence, not counted as a "shooting" in the FBI stats). So there MUST be some organization that does the same for your particular racial concerns. After all, you drew those conclusions from data, right?

So, where's the link to that data?

We'll wait for you to reply. Note: The answer of "use Google" isn't a valid one.

He doesn't recognize someone backing up what they say when its right in front of him. Affirmative action education at its finest.

I told you where to find the information. You are just too darn lazy to click a few keys.

Ask Paul . maybe u can Change your name to mr insignificant and feel better about yourself like he did after being caught lying.

I'm not going to do the work for you. Now, take your lazy ass to Google and click your key board. A new world will open up for you.

two people post conflicting statistics. One includes a site you can go to to verify it for himself and the other refuses.

Guess which one wins? I can go out on line and find all sorts of stuff - Obama's not an american, Obama got foreign aid as a student, you can keep your own doctor if you like your own doctor, period...

it's all out there, is it all true? You're full of shit and Im not going to go running around just because some liar tells me to. fuck off - back up your own words or you're a liar.

He can't back it up because it's made up.

MikeyA

All of you are lazy. You want someone else to do the work for you. I've done my part by presenting excellent information. All you have to do is use a little gray matter and the truth will set you free. Just think, an effort you can call your own.

You want us to go look for something that doesn't exist. GZ posted verifiable evidence to the contrary, and you want US to go jump thru hoops to prove you right? How does that make sense in your world??

I believe GZ because his evidence was right there. Yours is just air.

Bigfoots real!! Go Google it!! Its out there. You ridiculous farce.

I looked. Nothing to dispute GZ's facts.

I also found where several people called you a dbag. Google it.

MikeyA

Even that peice of shit Al Sharpton agrees that its racially motivated. The facts show its all black on white.

Need that backed up?

This just proves you didn't look. Your lazy little digits and brain can't perform a simple search. Hint: :Jasper Texas Murder of a Blackman".

3 whites indicted in dragging death of black man in Texas

Brewer, top, Berry and King
Brewer, top, Berry and King
July 6, 1998
Web posted at: 11:07 p.m. EDT (0307 GMT)
Trial not likely until 1999

JASPER, Texas (CNN) -- Three white men were indicted Monday on capital murder charges in the death of a black man who was chained to a pickup truck and dragged to his death on a rural East Texas road in early June.

One indictment issued by a Jasper County grand jury accuses John William King, 23, of Jasper and Lawrence Russell Brewer, 31, of Sulphur Springs of capital murder. A second indictment by the grand jury names Shawn Allen Berry, 23, of Jasper.

King and Brewer are expected to be tried together, but officials said that Berry's charge may be reduced in a plea agreement. Berry has been a key witness in the investigation.

If convicted, the men could face the death penalty in the June 7 slaying of James Byrd Jr.

The suspects are being held without bond in what authorities call a racially motivated crime. All three suspects have prison records, and authorities have said that at least two have the tattoos of white racist prison gangs. Racist literature also was seized from their homes.

Jasper District Attorney Guy James Gray said the trial for King and Brewer could take place this fall, but it is more likely to begin during the first months of 1999.

Berry to plead innocent

Byrd
Byrd

Beaumont lawyer Joseph C. "Lum" Hawthorn notified the court Monday that he has been retained to defend Berry. Hawthorn said he expected Berry to plead innocent.

Investigators believe that Byrd, 49, accepted a ride from the suspects as he walked home from a niece's bridal shower. But police believe that instead of taking him home, the men drove Byrd to a wooded area, beat him, chained him behind Berry's truck and sped down a bumpy road just east of town.

Byrd's severed head, neck and right arm were discovered about a mile from where his shredded torso was dumped. A trail of blood, body parts and personal effects stretched for two miles, police said.

According to one court affidavit, Berry told authorities that Brewer sprayed Byrd's face with black paint before he was killed.

In addition to any state charges, federal authorities are considering federal hate crime charges against the trio, which also could make them eligible for the death penalty.

That's not what people have asked for citations from. This is what we want a citation for:

"2012 violent crimes committed by Whites against non-whites because of race 6,600,000, or 69.3% of racially motivated violent crimes because of race."

Where'd you get that 69.3% statistic, Zeyad?

Where?

but Im done - he if he could come up with proof he would have already.

He knows damn well what we were asking for.

his example was from when? 1998 for crying out loud?

ZC

ZC, first no one can prove a negative like saying you're going to prove I didn't do something.

And ZC is correct, you challenged a statistic and are not providing 1) Why it is wrong. 2) What is actually correct in your view.

Until you answer those no one of logic will believe you.

MikeyA

You will not accept anything because you have made up your mind. Face it, the facts are the facts. You don't want the truth to be told.

People have provided you with facts and you refuse to acknowlege them or provide your own to dispute them.

If anyone is unaccepting it is you.

My mind was made up by the facts others provided. If you wish to change it then provide facts and not conjecture.

MikeyA

You will not accept anything
Submitted by zeyadcharles on Fri, 2013-12-06 15:45.
You will not accept anything because you have made up your mind. Face it, the facts are the facts. You don't want the truth to be told.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

"Two men drug a black man"? You mean "dragged", didn't you? Please use proper grammar, instead of gibberish like this.

Racism doesn't exist in this country, and never has.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/jasper/guilty0224...

It appears that a Blackman walking anywhere deserves the death penalty by anyone driving by. Isn't that what happen to Trayvon Martin?

You still need to go back 15 years?? What about those stats about the 6 mill? Oh, and trayvon?? That was black vs brown no matter what you want to believe, so that doesn't count either.

You still need to go back 15 years?? What about those stats about the 6 mill? Oh, and trayvon?? That was black vs brown no matter what you want to believe, so that doesn't count either.

You still need to go back 15 years?? What about those stats about the 6 mill? Oh, and trayvon?? That was black vs brown no matter what you want to believe, so that doesn't count either.

You still need to go back 15 years?? What about those stats about the 6 mill? Oh, and trayvon?? That was black vs brown no matter what you want to believe, so that doesn't count either.

None of you have posted any facts, only lies and attitudes of denial. The facts are with me, not with any of you.

Let's say for the sake of argument that no one posted any facts. That still doesn't mean the facts are with you because you failed to cite them. You claim they are with you but you cannot show where they come from or what they are based on.

Billy and GZ have provided you with actual statistics that were compiled by the FBI an others yet you ignore them. That's fine, IF you willing to post a fact or facts that disagree and cite them appropriately.

This is what we expect of high school students writing a paper. This is basic knowledge of supporting one side in a discussion.

You come here to debate ZC but you ignore the core presmise of a debate. A debate is not about winning/losing or being right/wrong. A debate is about the exchange of information. You are not bringing any information forward.

You bring nothing to the table.

MikeyA

I did tell you where to retrieve the information, "Google", but you like most lazy oppressors expect someone else to do all the work for you. Free your mind, my brother, and work your fingers on the key board.

Cite google on any high school paper and the student will fail.

Just as you have failed to convince anyone of your argument.

MikeyA

I had no idea we were writing high school papers on SB. Because you can't do the work you have concluded that I'm wrong. What it really means is that you don't have enough competence to perform simple tasks.

I did tell you where to
Submitted by zeyadcharles on Sat, 2013-12-07 11:25.
I did tell you where to retrieve the information, "Google", but you like most lazy oppressors expect someone else to do all the work for you. Free your mind, my brother, and work your fingers on the key board.

Speaking of oppressors..Sounds like the same thing Obama is doing to this country..

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

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