The debate last night

Did anyone get any information that helped them decide who they are voting for mayor in November? I didn't. It was the same old debate back and forth, one candidate claims one thing, the other candidate says the opposite. Next question. Well who is telling the truth?
The impression I got watching the debate was what a shame it is that these two candidates, who have fed from the taxpayers trough their whole life, is all this city has to choose from. What an embarrassment.
On a positive note, Fredo was the star of the show. He got a haircut, trimmed his beard and had on a $1000 Armani suit. It also looked like he lost some weight. He was animated and took charge of the debate. Great job Fredo!

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Even though I'm not a fan of Mike Bell, if I vote I will vote for him. In my opinion Collins is nothing more than a pathelogical whiner who critisizes everything and brings nothing to the table. I specifically didn't like Collins' position that he only plans to entice business development from local people. That hasn't worked in the past and in this global economy it isn't going to work later unless a few billionaires move here. I am also concerned that Collins may try to turn Toledo into a police state. I want more police and a safer Toledo, but not at the hands of police misconduct and brutality.Overall, I thought the two candidates were aweful.

Can you give an example ? Toledo is bleeding its population to the burbs. Folk can't or won't regulate themselves, more cops are needed

Zey means that the TPD keeps picking up marauding Blacks. Hence he concludes that it's police misconduct. Zey's implying the police just need to leave Blacks in Toledo alone, so they can break into our homes in peace while we're at work, taking our stuff and getting that sort of wealth redistribution done, since welfare isn't enough. We "Euros" can't ever do enough, according to Zey.

It's called "White Guilt" and it's a mental illness. Liberals tend to be afflicted with it.

I'm so happy you have revealed to everyone you can read my mind.

You didn't deny what I said, I noticed... and so did everyone else.

Collins is a union politician who takes counsel from Finkbeiner. Collins has already stated that his only reason for running is to get Bell out. Collins is a union puppet who debates you with percentages. One of his statements last night was, that we are in a jobs war an international war, and then says he will not travel outside the United States to attract business... He needs to polish up on his debates, I know the difference between an honest man that has results and a typical politician who uses the same political rhetoric as mostly all other politicians. Collins is not the answer...

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

We all know why you're voting for Bell over Collins. You are a one trick pony.

MikeyA

Of course you're going to vote for Bell, you idiot. From all you've said on here, that's obvious. Bell is Black. Collins is White. You "White Guilters" will always choose Black politicians since you roil in self hatred and seek to redress whatever imaginary racial crimes that exist in your mind (and only in your mind).

That's why you voted for Obama both times. You truly have no shame.

Collins isn't going to turn Toledo into a police state. That's more of your racism boiling up out of your fevered brain. Toledoans have every right to expect the streets to be clear of thugs, which in this day and age are largely Black. The latter point offends you, so you try to demonize law enforcement. Sadly there are too many like you, Zey. But happily, self interest in one's own defense, tends to trump that. Toledoans know we have a big crime problem, which stems from our dual sub-problems of racial imbalance and growing poverty. And the Liberals will be split in this election anyway, since Collins has collected enough union endorsements for himself.

And I don't see any functional difference between Bell and Collins as pertains to business development. Both are willing to hand out abatements and enact other favors for businesses.

In conclusion. let's be honest for once, Zey: Just admit you're going to vote for the Black guy. Kwame Kilpatrick could be running and you'd find excuses to vote for him. I know that racial honesty isn't Liberal policy, but since you're standing there naked as a jaybird, just stop pretending you're clothed.

I'm going to vote for the best choice of the two candidates. People who feel they are endowed with entitlement automatically conclude that Black people are not worthy regardless of their education and accomplishments.

Wasn't the moderator a little biased? I believe he's a member of the local Children of Liberty Tea Party group.
http://www.meetup.com/The-children-of-liberty/members/9865379/

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I don't know about anyone else but I voted for Obama both times. The first time I voted for him was because MCCain was a 90 year old senile relic whose dumbass got shotdown in the war.. Plus he picked a low IQ woman to be his running mate. The second time I voted for Obama was because Romney was a Dick.

~My thoughts~
I wasn't going to waste my time watching a WSPD sponsored debate but i did. After reviewing the debate I can say Fredo was the worst dressed in the room! Along with being the worst dressed he also was doing his libertarian Tea Party partisan hack job on Collins. So be it for being a neutral moderator! Oh by-the-way did you hear the shameless self promotion at the end?

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"Oh by-the-way did you hear the shameless self promotion at the end?"

I dozed off at the end, what did he do try to befriend a crime victim again?

Willard made the comment http://swampbubbles.com/20131008/karl-rove-irrelevant-moron#comment-80442 that a inside source at Bain radio told Fredo stop posting on the Blogs or else! Will we have another castrated radio host that spews more of the same corporate propaganda? Its too bad Fredo has become homogenized. I liked the give and take even though he sometimes couldn't take the ribbing and complained to the administrators resulting in my voice either being ban or censored. Well here's to the good old times Fredo!

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He won't stop psoting. He'll post under a different name.

It would behoove you and Willard to stop posting conjecture as fact. Or you could provide proof.

MikeyA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kGUL_KxJlik#t=233

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When you provide proof that your a big bad Marine. Stalking senior citizens on message boards. Yeah I feel real safe at night knowing your protecting our country. LOL

Willard you know I'm a Marine. After all you're my sock puppet which means you and I are the same person. Why am I arguing with myself?

MikeyA

To use ZC's phrase "What makes you entitled to proof?" LOL

In all honesty there are several people here including the site owner who could back up what I've claimed. I've emailed him from my .mil email.

MikeyA

You are not ENTITLED to what you may think is proof. We all know that your defintion of proof are the voices in your head claiming that you've been on a chariot ride with Zeus.

ZC I never said I was entitled. I said it would behoove them. It means it's in THEIR best interest.

That is because they are posting conjecture as fact. They are putting themselves in jeopardy of a libel/slander lawsuit against a corporation with deeper legal pockets. I'm just giving friendly advice. I'm not entitled to a thing. Maybe your problem is you don't understand what entitlement means.

I was never a fan of Greek mythology.

MikeyA

He couldn't stand me, as a poster. And he gets in his own way, oftentimes, going on search & destroy missions against those who disagree with him. But, the few times I heard him on radio (am not a morning person & most retirees don't listen to "drive time") he seemed to do a good job. He is clearly doing what he has a talent for - albeit a talent that needs some polishing.

Having said that, I assumed immediately when he "disappeared" from here, that he had been told, no more public posting. He found out the hard way that, in most cases, anonymity is necessary on message boards. Because the "crazies" will always go for the jugular - and one of the first things they attack, if possible, is an individual's source of income. But Fred was adamant that, in his opinion, posters should use their real names. That is ALWAYS unworkable, and often dangerous.

Which leads me to a side comment NOT about Fred. I heard BO, recently, make one of the scariest comments I've ever heard a U.S. elected official make. In one of his never-ending TV appearances, he said something to the effect that.... Well, look, people here in the U.S. are allowed to comment on the internet, while many governments don't allow that. [That's not an exact quote, but IS the gist of what he said]. Think about that.... a U.S. president does not understand the meaning of "inalienable rights" as delineated in our founding documents. Our rights are inalienable, because they are granted by our Creator, God. Because what government "grants", government can take away. I heard Laura Bush once make this same error, yammering on about all the "freedoms our government grants us". Both Laura and Barry have it exactly backwards. We the people are supposed to be in control of the government, not the other way around. When you have a U.S. prez start talking about how we are allowed to comment on the internet, you can almost rest assured that he is thinking of ways to shut down freedom of speech in that area.

I think if what Willard has said is true http://swampbubbles.com/20131008/karl-rove-irrelevant-moron#comment-80442 his photoshopped pictures http://swampbubbles.com/blogs/mrindependent/20130906/wspd-fred-hurry-cal... stepped over-the-line and the company was alerted to the violation of its code-of-conduct by one of its own or multiple employees. He says he has some that does his photoshopping for him. http://swampbubbles.com/blogs/mrindependent/20130906/wspd-fred-hurry-cal... If its another radio coworker well it looks to be a concerted effort to defame me ( if you catch my drift). As long as he entertains the right wing extremist fringe and sells commercial time to the low information listener he'll be alright. When he partakes in what I would say are clear violations as a indentured "at will" employee, well we have a problem Houston!
~My Humble Opinion~

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What is WSPD's code of conduct? Where is it published?

I ask because I've never known a media company to publish "ethical rules" because most of the time when they remove an employee for a violation of such if they are published the employee has a legal definition to base any further litigation on. If they are not published then there is less of a chance for later litigation.

You keep referencing Willard's post. You are smart this time to say "I think if what Willard has said is true" because there's the possibility that Fred has decided to stop posting knowing that if left unchecked the two of you are more apt to make more and more claims and thus giving WSPD a stronger case.

MikeyA

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

There are no indentures in the United States other than the military. Get a clue.

I miss my sandwich eating Fredo.

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