What Affirmative Action Really Means

There has been some intense discusiions on Swamp Bubbles from time to time about Affirmative Action and how Euro's are being denied opportunities because of it. Let me explain how the concept is practiced in today's world. In most instances Affiramative Action means, placing a woman or minority on a list for a job or a contract and then finding any possible reason not to hire them. When the government reviews records, the records will show that the hiring organization provided equal opportunity. Example: An African American male was selected for an interview at a large Ohio Company. He flew in at his own expense and rented a car at his own expense. The rental car agency only had luxury cars available when the candidate arrived so they rented the luxury car to him at the same price to rent a compact car. The African American surpassed the two other White male candidates being interviewed, but he was the first to be rejected. Why? The company didn't like the fact that the African American candidate came to the interview in a Cadillac. They said that his arrival in a Cadillac showed that the African American candidate didn't have good judgement. This is not an isolated incident. Minotities and women are rejected for employment and contracts all the time for the most trivial reasons. Us Euro's shouldn't fear Affirmative Action. We have found another way to discriminate against women and minorities.

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OMG what a good example!

I too have a story.

Once upon a time there was a guy. He applied for a job at a company on a day of a week that ended in "y". He was awesome at the interview. He didn't get the job. Why? Racism!

See PROOF!

All you who deny it are Euros.

You ignore the stories that ZC and I bring forward despite them being proof!

MikeyA

I know what ZC means.

I was asked to be on an interview panel. What the interviewees drove was a huge deal since the panel was held in the parking lot.

MikeyA

Or, maybe someone was looking out the window when he drove up. Or, maybe they asked for his rental car contract so they could reimburse him. Or, maybe they went to lunch with him and the rental car was used. I can't believe you think you are intelligent.

It is an admission by an entire race of people that they cannot compete on an even playing field.

Those racists who support Affirmative Action are suffering from the ingrained belief that any person of color cannot make their own decisions, cannot take responsibility for themselves, are not as educated as other races, and must consistently need a hand out from Mommy Gubbermint in order to even find a job.

Affirmative Action means an entire race of people will never be able to be accepted into mainstream society without their slave masters allowing it.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

When many minorities appear to be succeeding us Euro's will try our best to create situations to make them fail.

"Affirmative Action" is a "feel good" term for making minorities think that they NEED help.

It's a racist Government program that forces minorities into a 2nd class lifestyle by making them think that they are inferior and must have help from "benevolent whites" like yourself.

It is a way for you racist Euro trash to control people.

And once minorities realize that they CAN make a living all by themselves without "benevolent whities" like yourself "helping" them, once minorities realize they have been sold a bill of goods by control freaks making them feel they cannot be on an equal footing with other races, once minorities decide that they are as smart and ambitious as whities AND HAVE BEEN SINCE THE DAWN OF AMERICA, the Dimocrat party and you "benevolent whities" will not only no longer be needed, you will feel the wrath of the people you've lied to and repeatedly told are not as good as everyone else.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Hey pussy boy. Are you against affirmative action because it started your mother sucking black dicks and took time away from suckling on your small nub>LOL LOL

Conservatives love boys in bathroom stalls

That comes from sucking your union masters ass.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Conservatives love boys in bathroom stalls

Affirmative Action means that the entire organization becomes officially racist, in being legally forced to hire people based on their skin color.

This is an idea that needs to die.

Dr. Allan Bakke, was excluded from medical school all so that 6 blacks ( ?) could be admitted instead.
Bakke's, test scores were in the 94th percentile, the 6 blacks had scores in the 57th percentile.
Dr. Allan Bakke-went on to a very distinguished career at the Mayo Clinic, as an anesthesiologist .
Dr. Patrick Chavis-the only black of the 6 to even make it as a doctor. Had his medical license pulled after 90 + counts of medical horrors unseen even in S.E. Los Angeles !!

Tammaria Cotton-one of this affirmative action "doctors" nightmares, bled to death after a botched abortion.
Chavis, actually took Cotton, to his home instead of the hospital when the moron couldn't stop the bleeding.

Affirmative Action-the radical liberal way-useless, stupid, and very deadly !

"This is an idea that needs to die."

I agree, but it needs to die regarding us Euro's also. For hundreds of years we have been getting jobs and opportunities just because we are White males. So, if we are going to stop Affiramtive Action, let's stop it for everybody.

a deracinated lost cause like you in my Life.

You obviously hate all humans...just like all liberals do.

There is no affirmative action operating for Whites. Precisely zero. Businessmen only care about what makes them the most money. Their hiring practices are uniformly color blind... except government and institutions who engage in the big-A Affirmative Action.

You keep playing the race card until people either get numb to it all, or see that you're the same sort of racist you complain about. The blowback phase has already begun against you, but you're not smart enough or awake enough to notice.

"Euro... Euro... Euro... Euro... Euro... Euro... Euro...." - the racism never ends with you, Zey. All you ever talk about is race, and then you denigrate Whites 100% of time you do so. You're the very worst that Liberals have to offer the world.

Denial on your part is your only defense. The truth remains the same no matter how you want to blame the victims. Blame the victims, it's the American way.

Your example of the type of RENTAL car driven and cause for non-hire underscores and underlines the very root cause of some of the major difficulties between the races. A persistent transference of actuality is at the heart of the lack of success. The "some other dude did it defense." no longer plays. The sun was out, it was too hot, it was too cold so ya gotta give me a break man, a few extra points on the test, a little nudge up. Bravo Sierra! The days of falsity are done and over. God bless the child that's got his own.

Typical Euro response. Everybody is a liar except Euro's. Remember, the famous Native American saying, "White man speak with forked tongue".

Did you get that from the cook book that Sen Warren submitted her "pow wow chow" recipient?

MikeyA

These stories would be so much more believable if only he provided names and some proof. But they all sound made up. I went for a job at a number of radio stations before I moved here. Should I assume that because I was driving a Ford Pinto at the time that interviewers saw me as too common?

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Typical Euro response. The story has to be made up.

Instead of proving the BS that is vomiting out of your mouth, you blame whitey.
How DARE anyone demand proof! A black said it, therefore you are a racist KKK black hating cracker if you demand proof!

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

How about: "everybody know that", as proof?

Why did the individual come in in his own dime? Any interview that I've gone on that requires travel (coworkers as well) the interviewing company paid for the flight and rental car.

I think he was eventually reimbused by the interviewing company.

If this man had been interviewing at my organization, there would have been a good chance he was put on the interviewee list only because he was a minority.

Our HR department won't allow a hiring process to go forward unless there is a minority in the interview pool. On many occasions, we include an unqualified minority just to satisfy this requirement. It always seems unfair to make the candidate come in and give the false impression that he/she has a chance for the job--but that's Affirmative Action for you!

Galt, I totally agree with you.

Affirmative Action = The soft bigotry of low expectations.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

Affirmative Action = defeating the routine no substance, racist excuses and providing equal opportunity.

When you're selected by law for your race, you're not equal.

That's not what that means. It means that the racists get punished if they are caught discriminating because of race.

I am referring to 'Barbara Grutter v. Bollinger, Lehman, Shields, Regents of the University of Michigan and University of Michigan Law School'
http://www.vpcomm.umich.edu/admissions/faqs/chronology.html

"The U.S. Supreme Court held in the Grutter case that diversity is a compelling interest in higher education, and that race is one of a number of factors that can be taken into account to achieve the educational benefits that flow from a diverse student body."

That means the racists did NOT get punished, they got rewarded. It's better to judge people by the color of their skin instead of the content of their character.

Or it means the U of M and the Supreme Court think that blacks cannot compete and get into the U of M law school by themselves. The racists at the U of M and the Supreme Court think lowering the standards is OK for one group of people based strictly on the color of their skin.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Most institutions and companies in the U.S. give preferential treatment to Whites all the time, but that is viewed as normal behavior and it's not advertised.

More lies vomiting out of the mouth of the black cross-dresser, female impersonator posing as a "euro".

If that were the case, Purehate wouldn't have gotten those jobs.
In fact, it is against the law and those companies would be sued. SHOW ME THE RECENT LAWSUITS

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

99% of the worthwhile jobs are filled by White Americans. When minority gets a job because the hiring entity says the hiring was based on race and you cry foul. When Whites are hired the hiring entity cannot and will not say the hired person was hired because the candidate was White. They just say the White candidate was a better fit. Just recently a Black man was denied a job because, "Management will not accept two Black people in that Department", So, they hired a much less qualified White male to fill the position. By your own definition this is called Affirmative Action.

Hey LIBS--this character makes this stuff up as he goes. So does the other one, hence the total lack of any sort of documentation. And the "euro" part? Wishful thinking.

The people who support White entitlement always claim that those of us who present the truth are making up stories. That's the only defense they have about something they are so guilty about.

The rest of us provice supporting documentation and/or a logical progression to support what we say. You just type the same way you talk Out of your ass.

Until you also are able to support the damn lies that vomit out of your mouth, you are nothing but a waste of good oxygen that a smart person could use.

Put up or shut up, ass kisser.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

I don't think this clown talks out of his ass, but I do think he talks off the top of his head. Jealousy has that effect on people.

And, as demonstrated, racism is alive and well in America.

GZ says you talk off the top of your head and that somehow is a racist remark directed at you?

So, assuming GZ is a "euro", the only way a comment such as that which was directed at you could be slightly considered "racist" is if you were black. But you continually post crap about "us Euros"

Which means you not only talk out of your ass, you make shit up off the top of your head, and you are a liar.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Racism is alive and well in America is a statement made by many types of people in the U,S. Everyday I hear racist remarks about Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics, East Indians, Native Americans, East Europeans, and Arabs. Some of the remarks are made by Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics, East Indians, Native Americans, East Europeans, and Arabs. So I guess racism must be alive and well in America.

You can't keep your current provider and your premiums are going to go up. that's JUST THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT OBAMA SAID.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

GZ, it also means one group can holler discrimination, to the exclusion of all others.

one at Ohio Bell (ATT) and one at United Parcel Service. In both instances I was more qualified then the two white females hired at the same time I was. I was smarter, more presentable, had more experience.....but I wasn't white.

But it also shows the damage Affirmative Action is causing.

In the post, Purnhrt says she "was hired for two jobs due to Affirmation Action........... " yet goes on to admit she " was more qualified then the two white females hired at the same time I was. I was smarter, more presentable, had more experience"

Instead of realizing that she got the jobs because she was more qualified, smarter, more presentable and had more experience, she credits being hired to a Government Program. She is forced to thank euros in Government for those jobs instead of taking pride in herself.

How sad that Affirmative Action has stripped you of your self-worth.

YOU and Zeyedcharles may think you need the help of benovolent whites, but couldn't it be you were hired because you actually were smarter, more presentable and had more experience?

The bottom line, YOU think the reason you got those jobs was because you are black. Not because you were most qualified. And because of Affirmative Action, the rest of us can think that you got the jobs because you were black also.

Those of us in business always want the most qualified employee. You got the jobs because you were the best choice. But the soft bigotry of Affirmative Action has made you think you didn't deserve those jobs. It shows in your post.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

I'll tell you the damage Affirmative is causing. It creates a better life style for a qualified minority and denies an opportunity for a leass qualified Euro.

Talk about a one-trick pony.

Now he's responding to two week old posts because there's nothing recent on "his topic".

MikeyA

Actually, i do have something recent and it shows how important it is to keep Affirmative Action alive. In an earlier post I mentioned that a Black Man was placed in a pool of candidates because the company was required to have a minority in the pool. It turns out that minority candidate scored a 97 out of 100 points, whereas the other White candidates scored in the 60's. If it weren't for Affirmative Action the Black candidate would not have received a chance to show he was the best candidate. We'll have to watch this drama play out to see if the Company will hire the most qualified candidate.

The you should resent the hell out of any influence of affirmative action. Being hired on the basis of qualification alone is what is being asked for today. If the standards were lowered just for you, then you should resent the unlevel playing field as a biased prejudgement of the color of your skin. Some semblance of fair is all that's being looked at here.

Two years ago a 38 year old Black Man was hired at a prestigious company. There were over 100 applicants of which there were three selected for the final interviews. Of the three, the Black Man proved to be the most qualified. One year after he was hired his boss invited him to dinner. At the dinner the boss revealed to him why he hired him. The boss told him that his qualifications were eons better than the other two White candidates, but he hired him because the company needed a Jackie Robinson. The Black Man took the job, but he was insulted because he and millions of qualified Black candidates are selected in this manner. Attitudes like his boss' gives Affirmative Action a bad name. On the other hand if it were no Affirmative Action one of the less qualified White candidates would have been hired, which happens most of the time.When the less qualified White candidate is hired the excuse is that the White Candidate was a better fit.

I just stepped into a logic free zone. Please don't clarify. I don't want to get dizzy twice in one day.

the federal government for my being able to feed my child, through Affirmative Action, not welfare. You white folks just can't be satisfied. Actually the white female who got hired at the same time that I did was hired through AA because United Parcel Service was an all white male company.

It's encouraging to hear you endorse equal protection of our nation's laws and societal practices. Ironically when certain laws are passed they have a pattern of doing 180* and achieve that unintended circumstance character. How much time do think it will take for white males to utilize the very same tools employed by women and minorities in order to achieve fairness for themselves. After all both those groups propagate faster than white American males. It is a two edged sword. It is perplexing that some find it necessary to take from the other guy in order to forward their own interests. That energy should be applied to creation rather than vindictive extrication.

No greater injury can be done to any youth than to let him feel that because he belongs to this or that race he will be advanced in life regardless of his own merits or efforts.

Booker T. Washington

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

A greater injury to a child is brainwash him or her to beleive that no matter what great accomplishments they acheive those accomplishments will be trivialized by the institutions and he or she will be banished to a state of unimportance and undeserved struggles.

Genuine self accomplishment becomes interior and can be tarnished by no entity.

I'm not talking about being tarnished, I'm talking about discrimination based on race.

I disagree because

Purnhrt has mad a great case that we need to stop selling guns to these "crazy ass crackers" because they have a tendancy to shoot up places with AR15's.

Just like that cracker who shot up the Navy Yard with his AR15.

MikeyA

For Zayed who believes that affirmative action provides "equal opportunity". Here is the definition of equal- nothing in Merriam-Webster refers to "action"

1

a (1) : of the same measure, quantity, amount, or number as another (2) : identical in mathematical value or logical denotation : equivalent

b : like in quality, nature, or status

c : like for each member of a group, class, or society

2

: regarding or affecting all objects in the same way

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Another Mass Shooting!

This time in a park in Chicago. So the perpetrator MUST be white according to what purnhrt has said because these mass shootings are a plague of the white men.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-multiple-people-in...

MikeyA

It is the plague of the White man. It started with with the driveby's in the twenties and thirties with the Purple Gang, Al Capone, Luciano, The Irish Mob, The Jewish Mob. These people supposedly didn't have mental disorders, they were just greedy.

You obviously didn't read the article.

MikeyA

Why would Zey bother? He already 'knows' Whites are to blame for everything that's wrong.

I wonder if he's taking doses of colloidal silver to attain the necessary level of argyria to fit into the new world he imagines he's building.

He needs to take large doses of prune juice, instead.

The idea that us Whites are a superior race does need flushing out at the bottom orfice.

Affirmative action by the White America is at it again. Just recently an African American Friend informed me that he was being considered for a prestigious position at a local company. He was elated that he was being considered. He felt he had an excellent chance of getting the postion until he found out that he was only placed in the candidate pool because he was a minority. The conservatives wil say this proves their point. Let's hear the rest of the story. The African American has worked at this company for over nine years with excellent performace ratings. He has more overall experience than the other two candidates who have been with the company right of college for only three years. He trained the other two candidates and one of them reports to him. Yet one of the people on the selection committee has informed him he will not get the job because the company only required the committee to have an Afican American as one of the candidates, not hire one. So he asked why he wouldn't be hired. He was told promoting an American American to a position of that level would be too much of a culture shock for the White employees. So the moral of the story is - Affirmative Action as it is practiced provides for minorities to be considered for jobs they are uniquly qualified for, but not considered a viable candidate.

"Alleging that Benedict College “engaged in unlawful practices,” the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission also said that the Columbia school had agreed to pay $55,000 to each of the three former instructors."

"Under a settlement reached between Benedict and the EEOC, the school also agreed to remind staff about its employment policy prohibiting discrimination, provide administrators, faculty and staff with training and make periodic reports to the EEOC."

"In its complaint, the EEOC says art instructor Argiri Aggelopoulou in December 2004 applied for but did not receive a position as assistant art history professor, adding she was instead passed over in favor of a black instructor."

"In March 2005, Benedict did not renew teaching contracts for Aggelopoulou and two other instructors – assistant art professor Michael Hale and Katherine Mille, an associate English professor -because of their race, the complaint says."

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

For every discriminatory act carried out by minorities there are 100 carried out by Whites.

NM

NM

This weekend I attended a multi-racial forum on race relations in Washington, DC. Many topics were discussed, but the one topic that was rigorously debated was Affirmative Action. The conclusion of the participants by a vote of 75% was that Affirmative Action was a very good thing. Why? Answer: Affirmative Action allows for the fair treatment of minorities who would most likely not be considered for a position or hired for a position because the institutional racism and individual racism of White Americans and decision makers taints good judgement.

To all my teachers, teacher friends, friends of teachers. Enjoy !

A Grateful Student Wins Spelling Bee
Hi
My name be Eboneesha Hernandez, a African-Hispanic-American Girl who jus
got a award for bein the bess speler in class. I gots a 47% on the spelin
text and 38 points for being black, 10 points for not bringin drugs to
class, 10 points for not bringin guns to class, and 15 points for not
getting pregnut during the cemester. It be hard to beat a score of 120%.

White dude sit nex to me is McGee from Jaxon Mizipy. He got a 94% on the
text but no extra points on acount of he have the same skin color as the
opressirs of 150 years ago. Granny ax me to thank all dimocrafts and
liberuls for suportin afermative axion. You be showin da way to true
eqwallity. I be gittin in medical skool nex an mabe I be yo doctor since
Barrac takn over da healfcare in dis contry.

We can always talk about the mistakes that Affirmative action makes. Let's talk about the great successes Affirmative Action has created.

hilarious! I know Eboneesha's mother. She is a single mother who milks the system with every entitlement you could imagine. She lives in section 8 housing, uses food stamps, has 3 Obama phones and is on Medicaid. She has 3 children and three baby daddies, who are all in prison. She has a lot of health issues because she weighs 450 lbs. She won't need Affimative Action cause she doesn't work, If she did work she would have to give up all of her benefits.

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