House approves bill to eliminate red light cameras

The Ohio house is taking steps to eliminate red light cameras.

All I have to say is finally. This was just a reason to remove much needed police and to pad the coffers of the general funds without having to face the voters for the money.

No votes yet

but will it pass in the senate?

I don't have a problem with red light cameras, but I do have a problem with the way the lights are timed at these intersections. If you are traveling through the intersection when the light turns yellow, the lights turns red before you exit the intersection and you will get a ticket. Shouldn't we call these cameras yellow light cameras.

The precise definition of having violated the red light signal, is being in the intersection against it. So the camera is following the law.

I've have had a ticket where the video clearly shows that the yellow light illuminated as I just entered the intersection, but turned red when I was almost out of the intersection. I appealed the ticket and won. The court ruled based on my speed of 34 miles per hour I was not speeding and the light changed too quickly. The people who provide the camera service are very eager to nail as many people as possible. It makes no difference if people have violated a law. The cameras are rigged. They are betting on that most people will pay the ticket and won't contest it. It's the same strategy retailers use issuing rebates.


"The cameras are rigged." Why do you think that is?


Typical MikeyA,. never has anything usefull to contribute, just questions. I've already given you the answer.

Northwood has just recently decided not to renew it's contract with the Arizona company that supplied their red light cameras (2 I think - one on Woodville Road at Lemoyne).

It has been under discussion in Northwood, and they knew they had 4 City Council votes against the cameras (i.e., a majority) - but at recent Council meetings, one or more councilmen were not in attendance. So, finally, it was decided that the cameras would be shut off, and no new contract would be signed for them.

In Northwood, they have a very fair judge. If you appealed, they would show you a film of yourself going through the light at a certain speed. Most of the appealed cases (I believe) were because the camera at Woodville and Lemoyne was in a school zone. Which meant that you might be traveling under or around the speed limit of 35 mph, but during school hours, the limit is 20 mph - and still is.

This school, however, is set pretty far back from this 4-lane highway, and students are bused to and from school. Not being a residential area, I've never seen a student walking to or from that school. Drivers who don't notice the yellow flashing school zone lights were the ones who got caught.

One of the reasons Northwood was not happy with the red light camera at Woodville & Lemoyne is that (in this semi-rural area) drivers were avoiding this intersection. It was affecting businesses in the area. I know I have been avoiding it personally, for a couple years now. There are several businesses in the area. Speedway (before you get to that intersection) has continuously enjoyed good business. But you could see with your own 2 eyes that the red-light camera was causing other business close to the camera to lose business. There is a Burger King, a Bob Evans restaurant, a BP gas station right at that intersection. And several more that you have to go through this intersection to get to (Circle K, Enterprise car rental & others).

Northwood made a good decision here. Now Toledo - I thought the cameras in places like the Franklin Park area, probably reduced the number of accidents. Prior to the cameras, that area was like the wild wild west. I think every nut case in the region drives on the west side of Toledo.

The cameras are a money grab, plain and simple.
If it was about safety, all the city would need to do is legthen the duration of the yellow lights, and/or, time the lights so all directions stay red for 2 or 3 seconds.

I'd be willing to bet that many of the intersections where the cameras are have the yellow lights set at a shorter duration for the posted speed than what is called for.
In such a situation, if you pass throught the intersection at the posted speed often enough, it's inevitable that you would get caught running the red light sooner or later.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

I agree with my good friend Jeepmaker. This is nothing but a way to make money. Safety my ass. When are these radar detectors calibrated? How often? Last I heard the company who put those cameras in was out of Arizona. You have to come to a complete stop on a right turn on red even if no traffic is in site. The police will tell you its about safety because they need that money coming in to pay all those double and triple dippers that populate city and county government.

Yesterday, on the way to work I timed the red light at Secor and Monroe street. When the light turned yellow it took two seconds for the red light to illuminate. Clearly this is a trap.

At Secor & Monroe, the yellow light SHOULD last at least 4.5 seconds.
If it did though, they wouldn't bust anyone running the light.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

I refuse to believe the selfless hardworking Democrats who are elected in Toledo would allow that to happen. They care so much for the people and always put forth the best interests of the city while still being fiscally responsible.

If they voted it in it is only because they were duped by Bush, the Koch bros, or Romney/Bain. Tom Noe Tom Noe Tom Noe!


Lots of info on this site.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

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