Romney Votes Are Illegal

I just finished voting and I noticed something that is startling: any vote cast for Mitt Romney in the State Of Ohio will be illegal. On the ballot his name is listed as "Mitt" Romney. We all are well aware of the fact this is a nickname and not his real name, therefore any vote cast for him will be null and void. This matter must be taken up with voting officials here in Ohio immediately. Chris Redfern, as the head of the Democratic Party in Ohio, is being very slack in his duties by permitting this to be unchallenged in the courts. Or perhaps he is just waiting for all the votes to be tabulated to bring this matter to the attention of the courts in order to have all votes for Romney to be thrown out and in that way handing victory to President Obama in the State Of Ohio. It could be a shrewd move on Mr. Redfern's part.

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3513.271 Name change within five years immediately preceding filing of statement of candidacy.

If any person desiring to become a candidate for public office has had a change of name within five years immediately preceding the filing of his statement of candidacy, both his statement of candidacy and nominating petition must contain, immediately following the person’s present name, the person’s former names.

Has Romney legally changed his name to "Mitt"? If so did his nominating petition contain his name of "Willard"? These are serious matters to be looked at.

A new group of conspiracy theorists has just been born "Namers"!

Too bad for Sarge "Mitt" is his legal name. It's his middle name and not a nickname so he doesn't legally have to change it since it is on his birth certificate and social security card.

MikeyA

The author of this vapid article proves it !!!

Romney's first name is Willard. The use of any other name is a nickname. Romney pretends his real name is Mitt but if he would produce a birth certificate it would plainly state Wiilard Romney. Mitt pretends a lot of things that aren't true, for instance winning the White House.

Noun
nickname (plural nicknames)

1. A familiar, invented given name for a person or thing used instead of the actual name of the person or thing.
2. A kind of byname that describes a person by a characteristic of that person.

Romney's actual name is Willard, his given name. Plus, my Social Security card states my first and last name not my middle name. So wherever you got that idea Mikey must be in the fantasyland Willard lives in. I'm sure the courts will be hearing this case.

My SS card has my full name. It was issued to me in Toledo Ohio soon to be named "Fantasyland"... At least if Opal Covey has her way.

MikeyA

OMG

Harley, you are such a moron. Go do your homework before you make a bigger fool out of yourself.

This just in....

Bill Clinton was not his name. If you voted for Bill Clinton you were deceived. His name is really William Jefferson Clinton! What else was he trying to hide? Every bill he signed every Supreme Court Justice he appointed is now INVALID!

Also George H. W. Bush was actually... Mitch Conner, a con man who travels from town to town aided only by a hologram Al that only he can see, striving to put right what went wrong, hoping that the next leap would be the leap home.

MikeyA

Yes, yes--I believe that ultimately EVERY vote for Romney WILL be tossed out and Obama will win. In fact, because of this, I would suggest future Obama voters not even bother to go to the polls.

From what I hear that's what is happening in Toledo. Early voting is drastically down in Lucas County. It must be all the extra work the auto makers now have since they are doing so well!

MikeyA

That’s a very good question, and nobody here at The Post knew the answer. So I made a few phone calls.
It seems that Romney will mostly be listed as “Mitt,” which you may already know is the Republican candidate’s middle name. At least that’s the case in Pennsylvania, Texas and probably New York. In Massachusetts I’m told the candidates will be listed as Romney/Ryan and Obama/What’sHisName.
Each of the 50 states has its own rules. In New York, a candidate can ask that his name be listed in a certain way. Presumably, Romney’s people will ask that Mitt be the name on the ballot although no request has yet been made.
See how easy it is to just look stuff up?

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

I read The Post article you quoted. I found it by Googling it. You failed to mention what else John Crudele stated: But it’s interesting to think what would happen if Willard Mitt Romney — his legal name — were on the ballot. Willard, of course, is the name of a rat movie from the early 1970s. And a lot of great people are and were named Willard, although the NBC weatherman is the only one who comes to mind.
If I were a leader in the Democratic Party, I would certainly make it law — quickly — that only legal names can be used. Willard Mitt Romney might certainly lose a few votes if this was done.

The rat Willard does not like his real name. It would lose votes for him. By the way Mikey my Social Security card was also issued in Ohio and my middle name is nowhere to be found on it.

You're the one who asked where I got my information. I even took a look at it before I posted.

You're suggestion is a good one except it requires a GOP Governor to sign it. He may have just to see the Presidents middle name on the ballot too. Oh wait... That's another flaw in your plan.

MikeyA

If you think Willard Mitt Romney "might certainly lose a few votes," how about "Barack Hussein Obama"? You'll notice Obama's middle name isn't listed on the ballot--I wonder why? ("Hussein," of course, is the name of two dictatorial tyrants.)

IC 3-5-7-4
Candidate's legal name
Sec. 4. (a) For purposes of placement of a candidate's name on the ballot, a candidate's legal name is determined under this section.
(b) Except as provided in subsection (c), a candidate's legal name is considered to be the name shown on the candidate's birth certificate.
(c) If a candidate:
(1) uses a name after marriage as described in subsection (d); or
(2) takes a name through a judicial proceeding that is different from the name shown on the candidate's birth certificate;
the most recent name used after marriage or taken in the judicial proceeding is considered to be the candidate's legal name.
(d) A name a candidate uses after marriage is considered the candidate's legal name if the name satisfies any of the following:
(1) The name is the name appearing on the candidate's birth certificate.
(2) The name is the name used by the candidate as an applicant for the marriage license.
(3) The name is any combination of the names the candidate and the candidate's spouse used as applicants for their marriage license.
As added by P.L.202-1999, SEC.1.

So, if Willard uses anything but his real first name on the Indiana ballot it will be illegal.

NRS 293.2565  Use of given names, surnames and nicknames on ballot; use of additional criteria to distinguish between candidates having same given names and surnames.

1.  Except as otherwise provided in subsection 2, in any election regulated by this chapter, the name of a candidate printed on a ballot may be the given name and surname of the candidate or a contraction or familiar form of his or her given name followed by his or her surname. A nickname of not more than 10 letters may be incorporated into the name of a candidate. The nickname must be in quotation marks and appear immediately before the surname of the candidate. A nickname must not indicate any political, economic, social or religious view or affiliation and must not be the name of any person, living or dead, whose reputation is known on a statewide, nationwide or worldwide basis, or in any other manner deceive a voter regarding the person or principles for which he or she is voting.

This brings up an interesting point. A nickname must be in quotation marks and a name can be a contraction of a person's given name. "Jimmy" Carter instead of "James" Carter, "Bill" Clinton instead of "William" Clinton. It makes no mention of a middle name being a legal name. "Mitt" instead of "Willard" by this law is considered a nickname that must be in quotation marks.

This and Indiana are invalid to the argument because you have not shown how his name appears on their ballot to begin with.

MikeyA

RM 10212.001 Defining the Legal Name for an SSN
A. What is the legal name

For SSA enumeration purposes, a legal name consists of a:

first name; and

last name (or surname).

The legal name is the name used to sign legal documents, deeds, or contracts.
1. Middle name and suffix

We do not consider the middle name or suffix part of the legal name. Whether the middle name or suffix is included, omitted or incorrectly shown on evidentiary documents submitted with an SS-5 (Application for a Social Security number Card) does not matter.

NOTE: Both the middle name and suffix, even if not part of the legal name by SSA’s definition, should be used to resolve situations where the identity of the applicant or number holder is in question.

Ohio's definition of a legal name for election purposes: 5.
Restrictions
i.
Nicknames: A candidate’s nickname may be printed on the ballot if the nickname is a natural derivative of the candidate’s legal name. However, quotation marks or parentheses cannot be printed on the ballot. For example, a candidate named William Smith may request that his name appear on the ballot as William Smith, Will Smith, Bill Smith, Billy Smith, but not William “Bill” Smith.
13 R.C. 3505.23
14 R.C. 3505.02
15 R.C. 3505.03
16 R.C. 3505.021

"Mitt" is not a natural derivative of Romney's legal name according to Social Security rules. Therefore the name "Mitt" has no place on Ohio ballots and all ballots that are cast for him should be automatically disqualified.

That does not dispute what I wrote. That only determines what is the acceptable minimum for a name as the "note" denotes.

Looked up my wife's to see if maybe mine was a fluke.

When we married and she legally changed her name she opted not to keep her maiden name or hyphenate. Instead she dropped her middle name and replaced it with her maiden name. Her maiden name is now her middle name. It too appears on her SS card written out fully, no hyphen so it's clear it's not a mistaken hyphenated last name.

She received this not in fantasyland but Minneapolis, MN her hometown.

Plus you forgot to cite section B.1 Evidence of a legal name which states the legal name is as it appears on a birth certificate.

But for added fun I suggest you google RM 10205.125!!!!

Do you like apples?

MikeyA

Good post, sarge---you may be onto something!

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