It isn't easy being green......part 24

The Blade does a story on what affect wind turbines can have on the avian population.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Energy/2012/10/15/Wind-turbine-site-ruffles-a...

There are some people who think that some of these protestors are funded by right wing or corporate entities but as some local people have said that's not the case here in Northwest Ohio. These comments appear on a local facebook page from some who posts on the WSPD facebook page so I'm sure he wouldn't mind me using these, but I removed his name. Mr. (name removed), the kind of thing that you describe is definitely happening in some regions, but it's not a factor in n.w. Ohio. Black Swamp Bird Observatory and other local bird groups have actively rejected overtures from groups with political agendas that oppose alternative energy. We have repeatedly emphasized that we are in favor of alternative energy in general, but that the wind turbines should be kept away from the most critically important bird habitats. In the present case we are not trying to stop the wind turbine project, just hoping to relocate it slightly farther away from major migration stopover habitat and major concentrations of Bald Eagles.
Or this one-(name removed), We are not "those" people. In fact, when we first began the arduous task of trying to encourage local officials to work together with resources offered to them ( at no expense) to ensure proper placement of wind turbines along the Lake Erie shoreline in highly bird-sensitive areas, e were contacted by "those people" and we kindly told them we weren't interested in their help. We want no part of global climate change deniers or radical groups on either side of this fence. This has absolutely nothing to do with politics. It's an opportunity to prove that responsible wind energy is possible.

This is not a battle against alternative energy. What makes comments like yours particularly frustrating is that we are advocating for better alternative energy, more responsible alternative energy that everyone can get behind. Including the millions of active birdwatchers in this country.

These two really put this guy in his place.And then there is this guy who nails it-Thomas Stacy Energypresentation.org, IICCUSA.org, windaction.org, wind-watch.org ,energyintegrityproject.org, savewesternOH.org, Illinois Wind Watch, NAPAW.org, EPAW.org and the more than 1,000 organized grass-roots groups networking with the science community and fighting wind around the globe are not funded by donors to conservative think tanks either.

But even if we were, you have it entirely backwards implying that donors to conservative think tanks do the thinking for the think tanks when they send them a check, or command the intellects to favor or disfavor donor interests. It is almost without fail that conservative think tanks use scientific metrics to evaluate an economic or technical idea first, and the donations follow from people who agree.

Sure, I'll take money from the oil and gas industry, the coal industry or even the league of burglars, (my mailing address is...) but that doesn't mean I will take their message and propagate it. Clever leftist tactic to try to convince the public conservative ideas spring from greedy special interest donations. I hope it ceases to be effective as the information age matures.

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Let me state directly: I. DON'T. CARE.

We kill a billion birds yearly in the USA alone due to windows and feral cats. I don't hear any of you idiots crying about those billion birds.

We can address the issue technologically, by finding ways of shooing birds away from the turbines. But there will always be a death rate. And that's why I don't care. And nobody sane should, either.

But probably for different reasons than yours.

First, I read the link, concentrating on the comments, and agree with Messrs "Stacy" and "Stachura". Wind turbines are stupid nuisances, in my opinion, and are a false, and costly, alternative. A lot of these "green" discussions are largely distractions from real issues, as well as things like wind turbines being a supreme waste of money. Ah, but there's the reason we have the turbines - somebody, some organization makes a lot of money, while pretending to care about saving natural resources. So-called "green" and old fashioned greed seem to always be linked somehow.

The MAIN reason I DO NOT CARE, however, is that people who worry about birds and whales, and what not - generally care LITTLE for HUMAN babies. When the greens all start caring about the babies, I'll start worrying about tweety bird.

http://saintlouisconservative.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-many-babies-are-a...

Paul Wolfart has a whopping 19 FB friends, lol

If Songbirds Are Dying From Mercury Poisoning, Are We Next?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-andrew-lange/mercury-contamination_b_12...
Quote:
Current environmental mercury loads have the ability to significantly reduce reproductive success in several songbird species of conservation concern in the northeastern U.S. including the saltmarsh sparrow and rusty blackbird.

Bats also build up significant body burdens of mercury; individuals from multiple species from all 10 areas sampled in the northeastern U.S. exceeded the threshold level of adverse impacts.

At-risk habitats and associated indicator species are identified based on the species' level of conservation concern, relative abundance, and ability to build up mercury in their bodies.

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Oh, that's right, when Paul gets faced he switches to a new topic...

Use what God gave you and figure it out AccountantDan! I mean do I really have to spell out the correlation? Geesh!

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Cats kill more birds than wind turbines according to the New York Times. Obviously this situation is out of control. We need to forcibly remove the cats from their homes and exterminate them. If the owners won't comply then we should exterminate them too because they pose a clear and present danger to our aviary friends!

If this thread was going to go retard then it might as well go full retard.

MikeyA

Tweety Was Right: Cats Are a Bird’s No. 1 Enemy
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/science/21birds.html?_r=0

Quote from article:
While public attention has focused on wind turbines as a menace to birds, a new study shows that a far greater threat may be posed by a more familiar antagonist: the pet house cat.

Yes the wind Nazis should work to band domestic cats!!!

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I sure did use what God gave me. Were does mercury come into play with the turbines? I've said this in the past, if you are going to post something at least try to link it or summarize in your own words. That would at least prove you read the article and actually grasped the concepts...

Birds too stupid to stop flying into wind turbines?

Huh, I never knew birds were liberal.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

For those who doubt that right wing "thinktanks" and the fossil fuel industry are behind the anti green energy movement you need to watch PBS Tuesday October 23, Climate of Doubt.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/climate-of-doubt/

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