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What ever happened to that 13 million dollars that Tom Noe stole from the state through that investment scam he was running. Did the state ever get that money back?

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court system by a "Judge", so afraid of offending the Yellow Blade, and his re-election.
That he brought the hammer of justice down harder than rapists get, murderers get, and bank robbers get !

19 YEARS for making the State, a sweet 8% RETURN ?!

Toledo=criminally ruined by Dims, who hate jobs more than they hate criminals.

I remember the day after the story broke in The Blade, WSPD had Tom Noe on as a guest. He, of course, was defending himself against the "false" charges. But what I remember most was the way the morning guy on WSPD did the "interview." He all but performed fellatio on the guy; a fawning and sad sycophant. I remember thinking that if this case doesn't go well for Noe, this morning guy is gonna look like a complete ass.
I can't, however, remember who it was. It wasn't Fred - I don't think. Perhaps his predecessor?
Anyone know?

Yeah, the overall sycophancy around here was disgusting. The TFP article on Noe, for example, was egregious, all dolled up with the excuse that they were letting Noe have his say or something like that. I found the TFP article (with Noe on the cover) such a fine example of propaganda that I kept it for posterity. I have it archived in one of my filing cabinets.

I called Noe a $#%#%ing crook back in the Recall Jack Ford site days, based on his reported actions. Noe committed a serious set of crimes; firstly in mishandling public funds, and secondly in refusing auditing by state officials. And that's pretty much what he was charged for, and what he was convicted on.

Of course the larger problem is that there are always crooks like Noe out there, and they always have some scheme on tap, and so it behooves us to avoid them, both individually, organizationally and governmentally. We totally failed in the latter grouping. We should have never allowed our state government to perform the preposterous move of "investing" public funds in coin speculation. State funds need to be devoted to real value, like spending on infrastructure; if funds have to sit in accounts for good reasons, then those accounts need to remain liquid and sound. I have no problem with state money 'making' nothing or nearly nothing by sitting in accounts. That's far better than putting public funds into any categories of risk.

Ralph Reed: From Purgatory to Power
http://billmoyers.com/segment/ralph-reed-from-purgatory-to-power/

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Still can't come up with your own opinions?

Why don't you give us your take on the article or is this another one where you failed to read it in it's entirety.... AGAIN?

MikeyA

Mike Lofgren on Dysfunction in Our Political Parties
http://billmoyers.com/segment/mike-lofgren-on-dysfunction-in-our-politic...
August 31, 2012

Bill talks with Mike Lofgren, a long-time Republican who describes the modern dysfunction of both the Republican and Democratic parties. In Lofgren’s view, Republicans have become overly obsessed with obstructing President Obama, and the Democrats suffer from political complacency. Lofgren’s new book is The Party is Over: How Republicans Went Crazy, Democrats Became Useless, and the Middle Class Got Shafted.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

I believe it was Denny Schaffer who preceded Fred. Here's some history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denny_Schaffer

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Is that all you have? Good luck in the election with that one. How about some Bush attacks to bring back the good ol' spirit of '08. I think you may have lost the kids this go-round though.

MikeyA

You seriously misinterpreted my question. I'm not trying to make a point, be cute or a smartass. I really just want to know who the guy was who interviewed Noe. I honestly thought it was not Fred but perhaps the guy who had the chair prior to him.
Not trying to make a political point - just popped in my head at the mention of cointgate.
So - do you know who it was? Was it Fred?

And no Mikey, that is not all I have. I will be voting for my Commander in Chief. (Hopefully I can vote early)

Progress the comment was directed at Willard's post. Unlike purnhrt I know how to use the reply button.

BTW, There is a reason I stopped listening to WSPD.

MikeyA

Mikeya, why are you so defensive and sensitive? You ask is that all you got. Got what? I axed a simple question that had nothing to do with political trash talking. Why did I axe it?
I seen Maggie thurber dispense some words of wisdom over on Toledo talk and it reminded me how she was used by Noe for one of his scams and Coingate. The last I remember about this story was 13 mill was unaccounted for. Do you know the answer to the question? If not don't be so paranoid. Here is another question. Did Miss Thurber ever apologize (I don't mean to the judge after she was caught), but to the people of Lucas Co. for participating in one of Noe's scams and breaking the law ?

Well maybe you should learn how to use the reply button. You just replied to my reply to Progress. But then again I should expect Dems to be a little confused after all they can't even tell if they're voting for Gore or Buchannon, right?

You're bringing up a 6 year old story, based off of comments you read on Toledo Talk.

If you have a question for Maggie, why not go to TT and ask her, she does still read it. AND the question you ask has been asked here ad nauseaum, but you should know that you've asked it, oh wait, that was under your OTHER screen name. LOL. Still banned from TT, could that be why you posted it here?

And yes I know the answer to the question. Why don't you search SB or TT and find the answer to the question you axe(heh moron)?

MikeyA

1.There you go again being so sensitive and obsessed . Are you that afraid of the black man? Don't understand why your bringing up "Dems" in this discussion. It has absolutely nothing to do with the question I axed.
2. I did attempt a couple of times on TT to ax Thurber if she ever apologized to the people of Lucas county for her misconduct being a public servant and all but she never responded.
The birdwatcher fag that runs that site then banned me for asking a simple question.
3. Maybe the question I'm asking has been axed " ad nauseaum" as you say because it has never been answered.
Next time, being you fear the black man. if you don't know the answer to a question maybe you should just shut the fuck up, slip into your depends and go watch fox news you sheep!
LOL

Yes, you got me.... I am a sheep and I get all my information from others. Yet..... you're the one who cannot do your own research to answer the question so you ask it multiple times at random? I however am able to research and cite things for myself.

Oh you did make attempts to ask her? Please provide links to them. I am willing to bet you won't because it will prove you're a sock puppet.

"Don't understand why your bringing up "Dems" in this discussion." I will repeat what I said previously. Heh moron.

For me "being afraid" of anyone I am not nor have I ever been afraid to call people out to their face. You however run from TT and come here to call JR a "birdwatcher fag". LOL

"if you don't know the answer to a question maybe you should just shut the fuck up," I know the answer to the question. Again I can do research for myself. It's you who doesn't know the answer. Maybe you should take your own advice.

How does anything I posted make me afraid of the "black man"? I simply showed your usage of the word axed displays your ignorance. I would say that to anyone regardless of color. Of course you've proven what Bucknut posted which was your usage was intended to be a racial slur, only you used it to try and bait people on here so you could call them racists. You failed in your charge and so you make your ridiculous claims against me, so again I will ask how does anything I posted make me afraid of the "black man"?

MikeyA

Here we go again. Get someone to explain to you what I"m saying.
1) I have goggled this question a couple of times and didn't get an answer. Remember the question I'm axing is what happened to the 13 mill that was never accounted for.
2) Provide links that I axed her? I'm too Why? Who are you to ask for links? Her daddy? What am I supposed to be researching, a cure for cancer? I don't want to make a big production out of this. I just axed a simple question
3.Run from TT? That chicken shit would'nt answer my emails on why he banned me. So fuck him. He is a gdam birdwatcher. That says it all.
4.You claim you know the answer to this question. Why didn't you just post it and that would have been the end of it. Must be a pretty big sore spot for you.
5. In all your post past and present, you put Obama down and defend a clown like bush.
You have to be a racist to have these opinions
6) Sorry for insulting you..

Why are you still lying?

1) I googled it and found a thread on this very site that discussed it in June of '11. If I am lying prove me wrong. I will post the link to prove I'm right when you provide a TT link. Fair?

2) Because I don't believe you asked her. If you did the links will out you as a sock puppet. So either you didn't ask and lied or you will out yourself. Either way you CAN'T post them.

3) JR is very open about his site and the rules. Again, I don't believe you. You have a credibility crisis here and name calling isn't helping it.

4) If I posted it then I would be taking away a valuable opportunity for you to learn something for yourself for once. It's not a sore spot at all. In fact, refer to my answer to 1), if you took the time to look it up you'd see I posted quite frequently about it.

5) LOL, I have to be racist to have a differing political opinion. Spoken like the true moron you are. In fact, if you look I refer to the President as THE PRESIDENT. I do this because while I disagree with him I do respect him, I doubt you'd understand that given your moniker and the fact that you refer to a former President as a "clown".

Feel free to look back at my comments. There are others who disagree with the President who refer to him as Odumbo, Obozo, The Annointed One, etc. Please show me where I have done that? The most informal way I've ever referred to the President are: Prez or Obama. One is an abbreviation, the other is still his formal name and neither are used in disrespectful means.

Your apology means as much to me as the insult. Absolutely nothing. It is because you are a petty and ignorant person. You attack people who disagree with you just because they disagree with you. You've called me racist twice now and the best justification is because I fall on the opposite side of the political spectrum, as if two reasonable people can't disagree. If anyone here is a racist it is you for your derogatory usage of words in an effort to race bait.

There is a reason the other liberals on this site never come to your defense. You Sir, are indefensible and are a disgrace.

MikeyA

Hi mikey, angry white man.
1) There is a shit load of information on coingate if you google it. You are right about that. The thief repubic Noe was ordered to pay back the 13 + mill. that he stole. Ok. My question, for the fifth time for you learning impaired is where did that 13 mill. go? Is it under Bernadette mattress? Did Noe bury it in his back yard? Is it in a bank on the Cayman islands (along with Mitts ill gotton gains). I googled it and looked at about 8 links. Lot of talk about it but not the question I axed. I don't have all day to research the internet like you. I thought it would be easier to ax on here. Boy was I wrong.
You don't think I will get banned from this site for axing embarrassing questions do you?

2) The links won't show up if that twit jr the bird boy deleted them which he did. He must of been trying to save thurber some embarrassment . TT, real fair & balanced.

3) I'm not familiar with the term "sock puppet". Where did you pick that term up from, Oxy Limbaugh or the she male Ann Coulter?

4) You posted a lot about it but not what I was asking. If you don't know the answer as I said you should refrain from running your mouth and making it a political attack.

5)You are a scared little white man.

6) Why would "liberals" come to my defense? I'm not a liberal. Unlike you I'm a independent.
Besides that I don't see any liberals needing fellow liberals to defend them when they state their opinion, that is reserved for the scared little white men Repubics who make up the majority of posters here and on TT. Someone makes a comment and you and your ilk ,(you can google that word) swarm on them like a horde of ants.
Come to think of it, you are a disgrace and a scared little insignificant white man.
Sorry if my words of truth hurt your feelings!

Yes Willard that MikeyA will troll you in anonymity. He's the quintessential angry white man who enjoys the largess of military spending that consumes some 60% of our federal budget annually.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

People who talk to themselves are loons.

MikeyA

LOL

LOL You can't provide links. Proof of a sock puppet.

"2) The links won't show up if that twit jr the bird boy deleted them which he did. He must of been trying to save thurber some embarrassment . TT, real fair & balanced."

Nice try Paul!

MikeyA

Is using the word axe/axed the way it was a racial slur?

The first time I heard this was from listing to Rush Limballs about 20 years ago or so. Before he became a giant lump of shit .:)

Well then that means you ARE a racist.

MikeyA

WSPD ClearChannel must have muzzled their hosts. Its about time they worry about their reputation. After all they do represent the company even though they're on the clock for only three hours a day. Just look at the Labor Day holiday that began with union activism. Did anyone see Fred out and about on Labor Day? I didn't think so, he was enjoying what unions had won for him, a day off with pay even thought Toledo was the hot spot of the nation in political news that day.

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Didn't he actually make money for the fund?

So, how is it that he STOLE MONEY ?????

Because, he DIDN'T !!!!

Toledo=criminally ruined by D's, criminally ran by D's, with a D- "Justice System", so criminal as to be a National JOKE !!!!!

Undeniable FACTS !!!

There have been eventual reports of that, yes. However, Noe committed a serious set of crimes; firstly in mishandling public funds, and secondly in refusing auditing by state officials. That's the problem. And it's not up for debate; he's in jail for convictions on that sort of thing.

No answer. That 13 mill must be stashed in the Cayman Islands, seems like a good place to hide money, right Mitt? Thank you all for playing!

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