New Black Panthers say: Zimmerman ‘Wanted Dead or Alive’

"Yesterday afternoon at a press conference Mikhail Muhummud and the New Black Panther Party circulated a “wanted dead or alive” poster for George Zimmerman for shooting to death a Florida teenager four weeks ago".
"The new Black Panther Party offered a bounty of $10,000 Saturday for the “capture” of a Florida neighborhood watch captain who killed unarmed teen Trayvon Martin".
“An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth,” leader Mikhail Muhammad said after announcing the reward for George Zimmerman at a protest in Sanford, Fla".
'Muhammad called on 5,000 black men to mobilize and capture the neighborhood watch volunteer".
“If the government won’t do the job, we’ll do it,” Muhammad said, leading chants that included “freedom or death” and “justice for Trayvon.”
"Muhammad said New Black Panther’s chairman, Malik Zulu Shabaz of Washington, was taking donations from black entertainers and athletes".
First impressions it looks like Zimmerman is guilty, but to allow this vigilantism is uncalled for, what will they do next??

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as more and more comes out Im reading more articles saying there were witnesses saying Zimmerman was attacked by Trayvon and that Z. suffered a broken nose and an injury to the back of his head.

It's interesting that the only photos you see are Zimmerman in his jumpsuit and one of Trayvon that's at least 7 years old.

Where'd you reading that? Links please...will I have to scroll past a bunch of UFO stuff to get to the material?

Then again, Trayvon was in his right to attack Zimmerman under Flordia law. If some guy stalked me for a few blocks in his car and then got out and then came up to me, I'd defend myself as well. Trayvon was the one in his right to defend himself.

Also, I noticed the Fox News pulled their hoodie selction off their web site. I was thinking of ordering one on such a cold day. They were there a week ago, they must of sold out...

And for the record, no UFOs.

Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head.

Also, seeing as you didn't have any luck with the Fox News online store, where will you go to get your "hoodie of feigned indignation"?

I had seen that as well.

The problem with Zimmerman's story more than anything is the 911 call.

The huge flaw in the Florida law is it automatically assumes the armed defender is innocent unless the "attacker" can give their side. In this case the "attacker", Martin, is no longer alive. That being said the lack of investigation from the onset now leaves a hole in terms of physical evidence.

I'm not saying it was justified or unjustified but the Police did a huge disservice during the begining of the investigation and we are now left with questions that may never be answered and a possible murderer may get away with that or a man who was attacked and defended himself may never be fully cleared. Either way the coin flips is a tragedy of justice.

MikeyA

Then based on your comment are you saying this case should go to trial?

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

It appears as though you are on a search for the truth, instead of looking for that which would reinforce a preconceived opinion. DTOM and others do not like this!

You have to dig deep, I'll tell you that. Commercial media is so blatantly prejudiced in this whole business that I believe a brand new standard has been established. In short, Zimmerman and Trayvon got into a confrontation. Trayvon jumped Zimmerman, knocked him to the ground, got on top of him and started pounding the snot out of him. Zimmerman yelled for help, but help was not forthcoming. So Zimmerman shot Trayvon - once.

I wrote about it here George Zimmerman: Wanted $10,000 Reward and included links.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

chose the wrong victim !
I knew weeks ago that Zimmerman, was viciously attacked and left with a broken nose, lacerations to the head, and numerous contusions !

Apparently, leftists want video of it so that they don't have to be bothered by READING the initial police report.

Base humans are a bane to society...

Someone explain how they can legally get away with putting a bounty on someone?
Then again, I guess it's understandable when the chief law enforcement official in the country is a criminal.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

What law did the "chief law enforcement official" break. Please be specific. Has he been charged with a crime? Or is this just your opinion?

"They" are the New Black Panthers. You can read about them here: Southern Poverty Law Center: New Black Panther Party.

The threat is credible, but what makes this very dangerous for Zimmerman is that commercial media is carrying the story. The Chicago Trib printed it, and so did the Orlando Sentinel. I don't know how many more picked up and ran with it.

The shooting involving Zimmerman has been investigated and concluded to be self-defense. Various groups who want to protest this are allowed to do so, and media can cover their protests. However when commercial media starts giving up space to a group that is nothing more than a bunch of domestic terrorists who are putting out a bounty on a law abiding citizen whose only crime is self-defense, it's past time to sharply curtail their "right" to free speech.

This isn't about free speech. This is a lynch mob.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

Why was Zimmerman out there? This false idea that someone other than the police need to protect us. Didn't Zimmerman call the police and didn't they specifically order him to NOT pursue the "suspicious" person? Didn't the police assure Zimmerman that they were coming to investigate? Even if we assume that any tall young man wearing a hoody would have been considered "suspicious by Zimmerman, shouldn't he have left pursuit to the law enforcement professionals?

Doesn't the same Florida law which Zimmerman is hiding behind to justify his actions give Martin "cover" for protecting himself against a stranger stalking him?

This is what we get when we turn away from trained law enforcement officers and decide to take the law into our own hands! This is NOT someone protecting oneself or one's family from a home invasion or an unwarranted street attack. This is a man who stalked someone because that person was "suspicious", violated police instructions to NOT stalk that person, then used deadly force when the stalkee had the nerve to defend himself better than the "over 200 pound" Zimmerman expected.

Bottom line: We have an unnecessary death, and another life in ruin. Leave law enforcement to those trained to enforce the laws. They make mistakes, too, but they are less likely to do so. Trust the system. Block watchers are an effective way to get information to law enforcement people, but when ordered to step back, for heaven's sake, STEP BACK!!

As usual, if you only knew half of what you think you know, you'd be a genius.

Why was Zimmerman out there?
Zimmerman is part of the local neighborhood block watch program. That means that instead of spending time with his family, working around his house or watching TV he patrolled the gated community where he and his family lived, watching for people who had no business being there or were up to no good.

This false idea that someone other than the police need to protect us.
Dial 9-1-1 and die. Where were the police when Zimmerman needed them?

Didn't Zimmerman call the police and didn't they specifically order him to NOT pursue the "suspicious" person?
Zimmerman called 9-1-1 and spoke with a dispatcher. Dispatchers are not police and do not have any authority to enforce the law or issue lawful commands to anyone.

Didn't the police assure Zimmerman that they were coming to investigate?
Nope. Zimmerman got a standard answer of "We'll check on it."

Even if we assume that any tall young man wearing a hoody would have been considered "suspicious by Zimmerman, shouldn't he have left pursuit to the law enforcement professionals?
That's up to Zimmerman, but I don't see anything wrong with following a suspicious character to see where he goes and what he's up to.

Doesn't the same Florida law which Zimmerman is hiding behind to justify his actions give Martin "cover" for protecting himself against a stranger stalking him?
Nope. Martin attacked Zimmerman, not the other way around. It was Martin who ran up behind Zimmerman and confronted him; it was Martin who hit Zimmerman in the face, knocking him down and breaking his nose; it was Martin who jumped on top of Zimmerman and started pounding his head on the ground.

This is what we get when we turn away from trained law enforcement officers...
Okay Dale. Tell me, what is the average response time for TPD? How much damage could someone do to you during that time?

This is NOT someone protecting oneself or one's family from a home invasion or an unwarranted street attack.
Wrong again. The attack was unwarranted and Zimmerman was protecting himself. If he wasn't, why didn't police arrest Zimmerman? Could it have anything to do with the evidence at the crime scene and the testimony of the eye witness who saw Martin on top of Zimmerman, beating the snot out of him?

This is a man who stalked someone because that person was "suspicious", violated police instructions to NOT stalk that person,
Wrong, and real wrong. The police did not order Zimmerman to do anything. Zimmerman never talked to the police, he talked to a 9-1-1 dispatcher. Look at the facts!

Bottom line: We have an unnecessary death, and another life in ruin.
We also have a bounty placed on Zimmerman's head by The New Black Panthers, but I would suppose you approve of that.

Leave law enforcement to those trained to enforce the laws.
I will if I see you screaming for help while you're getting your head handed to you by a poor, unfortunate black youth that happened to cross your path while on his way to choir practice. Otherwise I would be tempted to lend a hand.

Why not ask yourself one question Dale: If Martin felt threatened, why didn't Martin call the police? Martin had a cell phone. He could have dialed 9-1-1 and told dispatch what was going on, but he didn't. Why not? Wouldn't that be the rational thing to do?

Martin knocked Zimmerman down, breaking Zimmerman's nose in the process. Couldn't Martin have run away after that? Martin was still standing and by all accounts was an athletic young man, a football player and so capable of running. Martin didn't run away, though. Instead, he jumped on top of Zimmerman and started beating him, and that's when Zimmerman shot Martin.

Martin could have ignored Zimmerman and just walked home.
Martin could have called 9-1-1 while he was walking away.
Martin could have refrained from hitting Zimmerman when Martin confronted him. Again, during the confrontation Martin could have called 9-1-1 and offered to wait around until the police showed up.
Martin could have run away after he knocked Zimmerman down, and then called 9-1-1 and reported being attacked by an armed man.

Martin had four chances to dial 9-1-1 and let the police handle everything, but Martin didn't do that. Now Zimmerman's life is being ruined by the commercial media and people just like you, DalePertcheck, and that is just plain wrong.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

Block watches are good things. When was the last time a block watch member killed anybody?

Have you ever been stalked? Of course Martin could have shot his stalker...oh..wait, he didn't have a gun! If the "over 200 pound" Zimmerman were incapable of defending himself without a gun, why was he following someone "suspicious" in the first place, after being directed by a trained police dispatcher not to do so?

There are two things that your inflammatory rhetoric cannot change. One -- if Zimmerman had not pursued Martin, Martin would be alive today. Two -- if Zimmerman had done what he was told to do, no harm would have come to anyone, and a world-wide audience would know neither Martin nor Zimmerman.

This is a direct product of vigilantism! Most block watch members are of great help to the police. But let's let law enforcement professionals enforce the laws...period!

And let me state categorically, that a private bounty put on the head of Zimmerman is wrong! Vigilantism is wrong under any circumstances. We must live with an imperfect system of law enforcement and constantly work to improve it.

Why didn't Martin call 9-1-1? He had plenty of time to do so. Why didn't he?

Once he knocked Zimmerman down, why didn't Martin just run away? Why?

Why can't you answer these questions, Dale? Too tough for you? What?

Or are the facts getting in the way of anything resembling an honest answer?

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

Zimmerman is part of the local neighborhood block watch program.

Apparently he never read or even skimmed the rules, because every block watch program tells participants not to pursue. It's made very clear, even in the site you linked to. See page six of the Neighborhood Watch Manual, in all caps: "DO NOT ATTEMPT TO APPREHEND A PERSON COMMITTING A CRIME OR INVESTIGATE A SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY"

That means that instead of spending time with his family, working around his house or watching TV he patrolled the gated community where he and his family lived, watching for people who had no business being there or were up to no good.

Except that's not what a block watch does. Neighborhood watch programs are intended to serve as eyes and ears for police. You're thinking of the Guardian Angels, not a neighborhood watch program. And even the Guardian Angels don't carry weapons.

I don't see anything wrong with following a suspicious character to see where he goes and what he's up to.

If you're going to chase someone without identifying yourself, an assbeating among the best outcomes you can expect. If I see someone chasing my girlfriend down the street and isn't a police officer, I will not hesitate to shoot that person as soon as I have a clean shot.

Nope. Martin attacked Zimmerman, not the other way around. It was Martin who ran up behind Zimmerman and confronted him; it was Martin who hit Zimmerman in the face, knocking him down and breaking his nose; it was Martin who jumped on top of Zimmerman and started pounding his head on the ground.

...According to Zimmerman. His story doesn't exactly jive with the 911 calls and the report from Martin's girlfriend.

Didn't the police assure Zimmerman that they were coming to investigate?
Nope. Zimmerman got a standard answer of "We'll check on it."

THAT'S WHAT INVESTIGATING IS! A 911 dispatcher is not a call center rep and will not give you a window of time to expect a black & white to roll into your driveway. They'll get there when they can get there. Besides, Zimmerman is in a block watch program, not Police Academy 4. Let the cops do their job.

The police did not order Zimmerman to do anything. Zimmerman never talked to the police, he talked to a 9-1-1 dispatcher. Look at the facts!

Zimmerman was a block watch captain. He should have known he wasn't supposed to give chase and even if he didn't, the dispatcher reminded him.

Now Zimmerman's life is being ruined by the commercial media and people just like you, DalePertcheck, and that is just plain wrong.

If Zimmerman had followed proper block watch procedures, his life wouldn't be "ruined". He actively made the choice to pursue, now he gets to deal with the consequences of his actions.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

So if you're part of the blockwatch program and you see a woman being raped, you shouldn't intervene because of the rules? Are you terminally stupid? What?

Martin tried to give Zimmerman an ass beating, and if Zimmerman hadn't been armed Martin would have succeeded, maybe with severe brain injuries, maybe not. Zimmerman was armed, so Martin got shot.

Now here in Ohio Zimmerman would have gone straight to jail until such time as he could have been brought to trial - think about that before you go running your mouth about just who you're going to shoot and why, HandBanana.

The facts are that Zimmerman was attacked, he defended himself and he's not under arrest.

But since you've decided to join the discussion, maybe you can explain why Martin didn't call 9-1-1. He had a cell phone and clearly he was too terrified to run away - so why didn't he call?

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

So if you're part of the blockwatch program and you see a woman being raped, you shouldn't intervene because of the rules? Are you terminally stupid? What?

I'm just posting the information YOU LINKED TO.

Martin tried to give Zimmerman an ass beating, and if Zimmerman hadn't been armed Martin would have succeeded, maybe with severe brain injuries, maybe not.

Zimmerman could have prevented all of this by waiting for the police to show up like he was supposed to do.

Now here in Ohio Zimmerman would have gone straight to jail until such time as he could have been brought to trial - think about that before you go running your mouth about just who you're going to shoot and why, HandBanana.

No I wouldn't. I'd simply explain that my girlfriend was being chased by a large man with a gun. I'd have a witness, too. Burden of proof met, no charges filed.

The facts are that Zimmerman was attacked, he defended himself and he's not under arrest.

Again, according to Zimmerman.

He had a cell phone and clearly he was too terrified to run away

You're assuming Zimmerman isn't embellishing his story. Martin's girlfriend gives a different account of the story from what she heard while he was being chased and her story was released before Zimmerman's account.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

moonbat. You argue that Martin was being threatened, then you keep tap-dancing every time I ask you why Martin didn't hang up on his girlfriend and dial 9-1-1. You don't want to even think about the real reason, that Martin was up to no good.

Get back in line with the rest of the moonbats, Handbanana. Stop thinking and what ever you do, don't rationalize anything. And for heaven's sake, disassemble that gun and put the pieces back into the gun safe where they belong. Store the ammunition separately.

If you feel threatened or if someone wearing a hoodie starts chasing your girlfriend down the street, I'm sure the police will arrive in time. Right?

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

You argue that Martin was being threatened, then you keep tap-dancing every time I ask you why Martin didn't hang up on his girlfriend and dial 9-1-1.

Probably because it's hard to dial when you're running from an unknown assailant. If only he had the new iPhone he could have asked Siri to call 911 for him in the two or less minutes that this went down.

You don't want to even think about the real reason, that Martin was up to no good.

You automatically assume a kid is up to no good. What the fuck does that say about you?

I'm sure the police will arrive in time.

Speaking of response time, the Sanford police arrived at the gates at 7:17pm when they were notified of shots fired. That means they had a 5-7 minute response time for a report of a suspicious looking person, which is pretty damn good considering Zimmerman didn't even give the dispatcher an address. If Zimmerman had stayed in his car, the Sanford PD had ample time to apprehend Trayvon before he got home and charge him with aggravated possession of Skittles.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

Had he lived, Martin would have been charged with felonious assault. That's a serious crime and warrants the use of deadly force.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

There is no incident. Let the police do their job and no one gets a bloody nose or a bullet in their chest.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

Had he lived, Martin would have been charged with felonious assault. That's a serious crime and warrants the use of deadly force.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

Had he lived, Martin would have been charged with felonious assault. That's a serious crime and warrants the use of deadly force.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

Not a mark on Zimmerman, I thought he got punched in the nose? From the begining it looked like Zimmerman had it out for this kid, he followed him approached him, had a struggle and that was his justification for shooting him. FACTS can be changed.... I'm not buying this one, Zimmerman's guilty on this one.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Not a mark on him? So you're now saying the police are covering it up?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/86948628/Trayvon-Martin-Police-Report

"Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head."

How far does this conspiracy go, DTOM? Seriously, how far?

Covering what up? The only conspiracy here is the media.When Zimmerman exited from the police car at the station he didn't have any visable signs of the injuries reported, their words not mine ,unless he was cleaned up. I'm just not buying this yet. Who screamed? Zimmerman was getting his ass whipped, screamed and then shoot the kid,??????.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

for all of the Muslims, who seem desperately to need it !!

I'll retire after two years a Trillionaire...

One of my sons-in-law is a gun-toting member of the NRA. His father shot at a home intruder and ran him out of his house and off of his property. I fully support the right to own and carry guns, and use them, if necessary, too.

But having a gun is a grave responsibility. As BANANA stated, Zimmerman should have stayed in his car.

"Zimmerman was looking for trouble."

By definition. Wasn't he a Block Watch member? Trouble is exactly what he should be looking for.

obviousness of why he was there completely boggles the tiny brain and shallow thoughts of Liberal men ?!
No wonder Toledo and America, are in the straits they are in !
Liberals truly are daft beyond comprehension !

Block Watch rules state that there should be NO PURSUIT of a suspicious person. Zimmerman pursued, even AFTER he was reminded about the Block Watch rule by a trained professional police dispatcher. Block Watch members are also supposed to be unarmed. When was the last time a Guardian Angel shot someone when on patrol with that group? As far as I know, NEVER!! They're unarmed!

I haven't seen one report stating that Martin pulled Zimmerman (who outweighed Martin by an estimated 60 pounds) out of his car. Why did Zimmerman get out of his car when reminded that he was to NOT pursue a suspect?

Yes, Virginia! Zimmerman was playing vigilante. Why? You'd have to ask him. He's now hiding behind his attorney. Even true scumbags like Penn State's Jerry Sandusky speak [lie?] for themselves.

"Block Watch rules state that there should be NO PURSUIT of a suspicious person."

So? I can pursue a suspicious person if I want. So could Zimmerman. We've reminded you about this many times, but you still keep harping on it as if it matters. As a hard-core Liberal you never want people to exert the powers of their natural liberties. Citizens always have the power and duty to stop crime.

Having allegedly broken BW rules, Zimmerman should be terminated from the organization. But what he did isn't illegal.

"He's now hiding behind his attorney."

No, he's hiding from Spike Lee, Rosanne Barr, the Panthers, and other vicious racist anarchic bastards, who have put a price on his head and have invited anything from public reprisals to outright violence upon Zimmerman and his family.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2012/03/spike-lee-trayvon-martin-...
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-30/politics/31259196_1_wrong...

Obviously Dale you have no idea what it's like to have rich people trying to get you killed. You'd hide too.

Were you there? How far exactly did Zimmerman pursue? Here we go, again, with Twana Brawley and the Duke La Cross players, right? Or should I say "left"?

He left his car.

Leaving his car was illegal? Got a link to the law to that effect?

Hey, I repeat, were you there? I guess if it's good enough for the race pimps', it's good enough for you.

Were you there?

It's that simple.

No matter what you may repeat over and over and over and over again, we wouldn't even know who either Zimmerman or Martin are, if Zimmerman had stayed in his car.

And you have never stated the slightest remorse for Martin's needless death. Even Zimmerman cried, if his family is to be believed. But GZ, don't shed a tear. Don't feel badly at all. Trayvon wasn't your child!

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