Herman Cain: the pro-choice candidate

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On abortion:

"[I]t comes down to it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision.... So what I’m saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

Good for him.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/19/pmt.01.html

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how long do you give him before he starts walking it back, but Herman beat me to it.

From the Cain 2012 Facebook page (about an hour ago):
"I'm 100% pro-life. End of Story."

And he knows he is not going to be the nominee.

Soooo... all the hopeful libs out there who want him to overshadow the REAL conservatives (Perry, Bachman, Ron Paul & Santorum) - don't hold your breath. This is temporary. The lamestream media doesn't want to give ANY face time to the true conservatives - Ron Paul in particular.

How many times now has the LSM repeated and repeated and repeated the dead Ohio wild animal story - 5 million times, or so? Something of little or no interest to the average middle or working class individual. In constrast, how much of the Republican debates has been dribbled out to those who do not have cable? Almost nothing. And they deliberately do not allow Ron Paul's comments on network tv. These debates are supposed to inform voters on candidates for the highest office in the land. Instead, they are blacked out to the average Joe who does not have cable, and misrepresented by network tv, which blacks out almost everything that is said. Some heat? Yes. Any light? Not really. When are poor people going to be allowed to see one of these debates? We see BO in one "exclusive" interview after another on network tv. Guess this is why the "equal time" deal went away. The networks can now give BO non-stop campaign coverage, while at the same time blacking out the republicans.

Herman Cain's views or adjusted views, on ANYTHING, are suspect, considering the fact that he was at one time on the board of one of the federal reserve banks. The privately owned "fed" is one of the main problems in this country. Central banks are being demonstrated against across the globe. In my opinion, Cain is a phony, and not a conservative. A charming phony, but a phony. 999? Idiotic and punitive to the working and middle classes - and EVERYBODY knows it.

Well said, farmergal

Pink Slip

The thing is, I agree with what he said on CNN. But I also think that each state should decide for themselves whether or not to allow abortions.

It's a shame that he felt he had to 'walk back' a reasonable response to a touchy issue- another damning indictment of our f'd up political system.

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"The thing is, I agree with what he said on CNN. But I also think that each state should decide for themselves whether or not to allow abortions."

Wouldn't that still allow politicians and bureaucrats decide, rather than the family? The only diff is that one is in Washington and the other is in Columbus.

Pink Slip

True. Of course, if you didn't like the laws in one state, you could move to another state.

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Well then, you don't really agree with what he said.

Pink Slip

That might be true if there were only two non-nuanced answers (the liberal answer, the conservative answer) to every single question.

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Nuanced? You provided the boilerplate conservative response--"we should constrain the federal government, but allow state governments to trample over rights." You're just substituting one form of tyranny for another.

Pink Slip

No I didn't.

Look, I can see why you'd have a problem thinking there's more than two political answers to a situation when you're a partisan conditioned to the same.

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Hahaha...sure. If protecting our rights from government intrusion is partisan, then guess I'm partisan.

Pink Slip

And as a non-partisan, I can agree with what Mr. Cain originally said about abortion AND believe that nevertheless the decision to regulate abortion should be done at a state level.

The wonderful thing about the United States is the fact that if I don't like how a particular state is run- I have the freedom to move to another state.

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But voting with your feet is unreasonable for such an issue. Further, as stated so clearly by Pinky, you either agree with Cain's statement or you don't. What he said had nothing to do with which government would/should/could be intruding into private lives. By your logic, this could well be a county level decision. Can't get an abortion in Wood county? Drive across the bridge to Lucas county - no problem.
Either government has a say or it does not. That is not so nuanced - is it AH?

Again, you seem to think this is an either/or decision. It's not.

For the 800th time, I agree with what Cain said on abortion.

For the 800th time, I believe that the federal government, in the guise of the Supreme Court, intruded on the State's right to decide themselves how they wished to handle this issue.

Government intrusion is apparently the eye of the beholder, yes?

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"[I]t comes down to it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision.... So what I’m saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make."

Cain CLEARLY says it's "not the government's role". He makes NO distinction between federal and state. He says it's a choice that that family has to make--he doesn't remotely imply that it's a states' rights issue. YOU may make that distinction--but he does not.

Pink Slip

I've never quite understood that disconnect. Conservatives complain that the "nanny state" is too intrusive in their lives, yet they are all up in this very private, family decision. Gay marriage too - what does it matter to you or me if two guys want to marry?
And while were at it, I'm pretty sure that Rick Santorum wants to establish a Theocracy in America. That guy is nuts.

Yeah, and I'm equally sure that there's plenty of political correctness nutcases in the Democratic party, and unfortunately in government, who claim to be 'progressives' and want to control everything we say, think, eat, and do.

BTW...I really could care less about gay marriage. If they want to get married, I don't have a problem with it. One of the biggest problems in our country is the fact that people can't seem to mind their own business. People need to take care of their own houses instead of worrying what other people are doing- and Progressives/Democrats/Liberals are just as guilty as the right is.

And in some ways, even worse.

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Meh...debunked.....no there there...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

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