Union Fails to rally for Obama in detroit

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According to published reports about 12,000 people showed up for the Detroit Labor Day parade. President Obama was the key speaker of course and given the union make up of Detroit and Michigan those numbers seem exceedingly low. In fact given the population of Detroit of somewhere around 800,000 it means that only 1.5% of the available population showed up to see the President of the United States and to show thier union support. This number looks even worse when you realize the 36,000 showed up to walk across the Mackinac Bridge with the new Republican Governor.

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People ever wonder why the local Hate Radio station shills for corporate America? Because their paycheck depends on it. Hour after hour day after day the beating drum of hate spews from those that what you to work for less while they profit from your loss. Is it any wonder that over the last decade the fortunate 1% have seen their share of the American pie rise while the other 99% have lost? The recent Toledo Blade editorial, Labor Day blues http://www.toledoblade.com/Editorials/2011/09/05/Labor-Day-blues.html states the obvious:
"A new report by Policy Matters Ohio shows that median hourly wages declined more in our state than any other between 2000 and 2010.
The percentage of Ohioans who are employed is down for the fourth straight year and at its lowest point since the late 1980s. The share of employed adults of working age is at its lowest level since 1985.
It gets worse: The percentage of Ohio men in the state's labor force is at a modern low, while the percentage of men and women unemployed for 26 or more weeks is at a modern high.
The report says African-American unemployment is "at crisis levels." One of six black Ohioans is jobless for the second consecutive year. Adjusted for inflation, the wages of black Ohioans who are lucky enough to have jobs are $2.50 an hour less than in 1979.
The study notes that U.S. income grew enough between 1979 and 2008 for each American to have another $10,401 to live off each year, yet "every penny went to the richest 10 percent." As a result, workers today have less disposable income than those of previous generations. At the same time, reckless cuts by government in public-health and environmental programs have imposed billions of dollars of additional hidden costs on Americans."

Remember the part time radio shills with the full time pay checks are instructed to "sell" hate and controversy. it generates ratings. Look around you as the union membership has dropped so has your pay and benefits while the riches among us grows in wealth. Take that with you November 8th Vote NO on SB5.

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Constantly berating the supposed "local hate radio station shilling for corporate America" (if only in his tiny delusional mind) while peddling leftist, class warfare hate shilling for his union masters.

Wolfman's masters in the union world only gave him propaganda and not facts which is why he can't back it up.

"Is it any wonder that over the last decade the fortunate 1% have seen their share of the American pie rise while the other 99% have lost?" OK, where do these numbers come from? Is this GAO numbers? No, he pulled them out of thin air. Can't back it up

"A new report by Policy Matters Ohio shows that median hourly wages declined more in our state than any other between 2000 and 2010." Despite Ohio raising it's minimum wage. Also notice how he doesn't advocate eliminating the taxes of tips. Those individuals make $3.70 an hour or about half of an unskilled employee making minimum wage.

All of his other facts from the unbiased Toledo bland can all be described with one word: Recession.

"Remember the part time radio shills with the full time pay checks are instructed to "sell" hate and controversy. it generates ratings." Notice he doesn't cite. Yet I can easily cite a union boss selling hate and generating controversy by directing everyone to the post of Hoffa advocating taking up arms against American civilians.

"Look around you as the union membership has dropped so has your pay and benefits while the riches among us grows in wealth." Union membership has been dropping since the 1950's as we've transitioned away from a manufacturing based economy you moron.

MikeyA

15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-about-wealth-and-inequality-in-...

The Richest 1% Have Captured America's Wealth -- What's It Going to Take to Get It Back?
http://www.alternet.org/economy/145705/the_richest_1%25_have_captured_am...

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Ok let's analyze your sources. The first one only uses facts and statistics no later than 2004.

Since the current crisis began in 2009 those stats have actually INCREASED much of it was done because of gov't bailouts which you supported. Additionally the stimulus has done as much to put more money in the wealthy's pockets than anything and the unions have supported that and even want more.

From the second article "As mentioned before, just look at the first full year of the crisis when workers lost an average of 25 percent off their 401k. During the same time period, the wealth of the 400 richest Americans increased by $30 billion, bringing their total combined wealth to $1.57 trillion, which is more than the combined net worth of 50% of the US population."

Why would this be?

It is because the middle and lower class used their stealth wealth of credit and lived beyond their means. When the crisis occurred those who paid off their debts stood to gain just as in every other recession ever. Who has enough to pay off their debts? Those who didn't overextend and there's a reason why the wealthy are wealthy. If you read The Millionaire Next Door" you'll know that most wealthy Americans are wealthy because they do not live beyond their means.

Additionally I've noted that those who lost 25% of their 401k did so because they took their money out. I am by no means wealthy. I even make less than most union members. Yet I lost 30% of my 401k for only about 2 months and after that I actually gained 15% more than my principle before the collapse. This was because I left my money in, didn't panic, and used past recessions to guide my financial decisions.

Case in point. The wealthy are wealthy primarily because they are wise. They get a good education. They work hard for good companies. They invest their money wisely. If the stock market gains at the rate it traditionally has when I retire I will be worth over 2 million. That is not because I got a gov't bailout, it's not because I needed a union to tell me what decisions to make. It is because I made wise financial decisions, I got a good education, and I worked hard at every job I've ever been given. I will have done that without anyone's help. I put my trust in the one person I trust with my money.... ME!

MikeyA

exactly what about fred's post is untrue?

you fucking puppet.

Snyder leads 36,000 in annual Mackinac Bridge Walk

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110905/BIZ/109050366/Snyder-leads-36-000-in...
Quote from article:
"The Republican governor, elected last November, chose not to jog across the bridge as his Democratic predecessor, Jennifer Granholm, usually did. But Snyder set a brisk pace and finished in just over an hour. "Now I have a mark to beat next year," he said.
Labor Day is the one time each year when the bridge is open to foot traffic. Walkers arriving as late as 11 a.m. were allowed to participate, but many were waiting in the dark for at least an hour before the event began at 7 a.m.
It's a nonpartisan event, and Snyder avoided political rhetoric in remarks to the crowd. Instead, he encouraged physical fitness — the theme of an initiative his administration will roll out this month."

Why no political rhetoric because its an annual event that draws a nonpartisan crowd year after year. Nice try with the propaganda Fred save it for your silly show!

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Paul I never said the bridge walk was partisan, I said 36,000 people walked across it with the new Republican Governor which is absolutely true. I compared that number to the number of people who showed up at the non partisan Labor Day Parade to see the sitting President of The United States which was 12,000. Apparently 3 times as many people would like to walk 5 miles across Mackinac Bridge which says something about Obama.

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Wolfman shows his inability to completely read an article and once again, posts an incorrect assumption.

Now you're saying that walking across the bridge was NON partisan, but a Labor Day parade is partisan?

Had to be done.

What is Gov. Snyder excuse for low attendance this year?

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

I don't know that the Governor said anything about the low attendance but the Bridge Authority had this to say in a Blade story "About 36,000 made the crossing -- fewer than usual, probably because of the gloomy weather, said Bob Sweeney, executive secretary of the Mackinac Bridge Authority."
I hope that answers your question. I guess it's only fair to ask what the President had as an exuse for the low attendance this year. According to The Washingto Post "Obama spoke for about 10 minutes at the Detroit labor parade during his 2008 campaign and an estimated 100,000 people showed up, Williams said. Though attendance is usually in the 50,000-60,000 range, she said she expected a far larger group again this year."
In many circles this would be considered a smack down, but for this blog we'll just consider it a lesson.

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I don't know that the Governor said anything about the low attendance but the Bridge Authority had this to say in a Blade story "About 36,000 made the crossing -- fewer than usual, probably because of the gloomy weather, said Bob Sweeney, executive secretary of the Mackinac Bridge Authority."
I hope that answers your question. I guess it's only fair to ask what the President had as an exuse for the low attendance this year. According to The Washingto Post "Obama spoke for about 10 minutes at the Detroit labor parade during his 2008 campaign and an estimated 100,000 people showed up, Williams said. Though attendance is usually in the 50,000-60,000 range, she said she expected a far larger group again this year."
In many circles this would be considered a smack down, but for this blog we'll just consider it a lesson.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

The weather on the Mighty Mac was the same as in Detroit.

Also, parades are lame. Walking across one of the longest suspension bridges in the world and looking down at the lake through the metal grating is not.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

The weather was the same for Big Mac and Big Labor yet the crowd for Big Mac was three times as large as Big Labor and Big Obama. Parades are lame, looking at a lake through metal grating is not-hahahahhaahahah

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