Is there going to be a Labor Party?

Is the AFL-CIO starting it's own political party?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62057.html

AFL-CIO President and muppet "Waldorf" look-a-like Richard Trumka was quoted as saying “You’re going to see us give less money to build structures for others, and more of our money will be used to build our own structure.”

I personally hope they do. It will be fun in Toledo watching the A team and B team square off but this time with (D) and (L) behind their names.

Point of note though. If the unions decide to do this I sincerely hope they use the Queen's English and spell it Labour as our Canadian and British allies. It adds a bit of sophistication to union members who drink and smoke weed on their breaks.

Oh and scroll down to mid story for the funniest part: "Trumka articulated a broader critique of the Obama administration, telling reporters that the president has allowed Republicans to set the terms of debate — focusing on what he called a manufactured debt crisis instead of a jobs agenda."

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"Oh and scroll down to mid story for the funniest part: "Trumka articulated a broader critique of the Obama administration, telling reporters that the president has allowed Republicans to set the terms of debate — focusing on what he called a manufactured debt crisis instead of a jobs agenda."

Funny in what way, MikeyA? Just asking, because his statement rings pretty true.

Pink Slip

It is funny because the President has supported the unions more from the highest post than any president in the last 30 years and they are criticizing him.

The liberals are eating their own and enjoying it.

MikeyA

But the statement you called 'funny' is actually true. So are you saying the statement itself is funny, or the whole idea behind the article?

What about card check and trade agreements?

Pink Slip

Well you will note that I never said it was untrue. Funny means hilarious, humorous, laughable, gay, or amusing it does not mean false, delusive, misleading or deceitful so my comment still stands.

"So are you saying the statement itself is funny, or the whole idea behind the article?" Well since I said "funniest part" one could then reasonably assume the whole article is funny but that the selection quoted would be even more amusing than the rest.

"What about card check and trade agreements?" What about them? As I noted the President has supported unions more than anyone else in the last 30 years. Complaining that he hasn't done enough is like saying polio vaccinations are a failure because over a thousand people still get polio each year.

MikeyA

"Complaining that he hasn't done enough is like saying polio vaccinations are a failure because over a thousand people still get polio each year."

Come on now, card check was THE top priority for unions. And Obama & the rest of the cowardly Democrats quietly shelved the legislation. And Obama supports the same neoliberal economic policies that Clinton did with these trade deals that put our workers in direct competition with third world country workers. These are not minor issues.

Pink Slip

THE top priority? Not the auto bailout? Not Cash for Clunkers?

It must have been card check that the SEIU got into fights with ordinary citizens over outside the town hall meetings?

Plus Trumka is the biggest supporter of a 2nd stimulus package. Moreso than anyone else I've seen outside of the administration.

MikeyA

No, I don't think either the auto bailout or Cash for Clunkers were on the unions priority list. Can you find any proof of that anywhere?

Pink Slip

Too easy. Here is the House members who received money from the Auto corps, how much they got, and how they voted.

Here's the same data table but with Senators and UAW money.

Note the correlation.

Additionally, when faced with being asked for wage cuts in order to keep the businesses healthly and reduce the ammount needed from taxpayers the union refused. http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2008-12-10-house-approves-auto-bailo...

Why would the union play chicken with so many jobs? Because the votes were already bought and paid for. http://maplight.org/auto-industry-bailout-vote
From the article
Avg donation(s) by vote: Labor unions- Yes $48,193; No $ 6,607

No other auto lobby group had a disparity this big.

Follow the money... follow the money.

MikeyA

That's not what I was asking for. What you're describing is an administration reacting to yet another "too big to fail" scenario. While that's a good debate to have (I would probably agree with you more than you think on this), it's not what I was suggesting. Card check and trade deals have been on labor's radar for years. Labor largely backed Obama based on the premise that he would fight for these things. And he has largely disappointed.

Pink Slip

"That's not what I was asking for." I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you ask me to prove what people are thinking. I can only tell you what I believe they are thinking and use facts to support it. Other than being able to read their mind which technically can't be done.

My initial point still stands. If they wanted Card Check and trade deals they could have used their political capital on those. As my data points out they did have political capital but it was used on other initiatives. Because those initiatives are a reaction scenario doesn't mean those didn't become the majority priority.

Likewise I could ask you to prove that CC and free trade elimination have always been the top priority. Other than they've been fighting it for years I believe there is few arugments you could make.

Just because something has been fought for years doesn't mean it's the top priority. The GOP has been fighting Roe v. Wade for years but I have no doubt the Top priority is passing a Balanced Budget Amendment because the data reflects that there has done more for the BBA than preventing abortions within the last year.

MikeyA

"If they wanted Card Check and trade deals they could have used their political capital on those."

They did, and it didn't get them anywhere. That's why they're adjusting their strategy. Did you even read the article you posted?

The auto bailout was introduced by Bush and his economic advisers. Did the unions push them for a bailout? How often did Trumka meet with President Bush?

"Likewise I could ask you to prove that CC and free trade elimination have always been the top priority."

You can go directly to their websites (AFL-CIO, SEIU, etc..) and it's all right there. "Free trade elimination"? haha...no one ever said such a thing.

Pink Slip

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