Illegally funneling money. Noegate revisited.

I know its some what old news but can anyone tell me has the gracious Maggie Thurber ever commented on why she and her husband took all that money from Noe to give to the
Republicans illegally? I really like her but never heard anything from her on this subject.
In this site, her blog and especially over at Toledo Talk, she makes comments on nearly
every topic. I will say from reading her comments that she appears to be very articulate, smart and seems very level headed. Its hard to believe that she didn't know that taking that money from Noe was illegal. Being she don't want to comment on it that leaves one to conclude that she and her husband are really ignorant and someone else must be writing her material, or she is a crook like Noe who thought she could get away with it. I hope it was all a mis understanding. I wish she would come clean. If she has explained her actions, please direct to where I can read them:)

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Why does it matter and why do you care? She is no longer in politics. I don't believe she has any plans to come back into politics. So what does it accomplish?

MikeyA

You know, the group that funneled money to sMarmy Kaptur among others?

"The founder of a once lucrative defense lobby shop was arrested on Thursday after being indicted on eight counts of making illegal campaign contributions to lawmakers."
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/112901-pma-group-founder-indicted...

Also, whatever happened to the investigations into the Biden campaign?
"An alcohol distributor has admitted he illegally reimbursed his employees for donations made to the presidential campaign of Vice President Joe Biden at a sham fundraising event and provided free booze at parties for numerous politicians."
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/distributor_funneled_m...

While we're at it, whatever happened to of Democratic Rep. William Jefferson?
"Federal agents searched the Capitol Hill office of a Louisiana congressman under investigation on bribery charges Sunday, while newly released court papers said agents found $90,000 in cash last year in his Washington home."
http://articles.cnn.com/2006-05-21/politics/jefferson.search_1_congressm...

YOU MEAN THIS DEM WHO HID BRIBE MONEY IN HIS FREEZER GOT RE-ELECTED?

Meanwhile, the Blade gets it's puppets to screech and whine about Tom Noe. What a joke Democrats are.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Noe

Having The Blade or anyone else bark at the moon over Noe and his infamous slight of hand escapades does not make what Noe and Mrs. Noe did any less serious or any less a crime - it is, and they are both just as guilty as home made sin.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

First off - what Mikey said pretty much says it all, BUT...

she DID comment, and on this site. go check the archives. Good luck, it was a long time ago and I dont know if it was one of her threads or in response to someone else, but if you really have nothing better to do, knock yourself out.

But it was later discovered that her apology was cribbed from a statement made by another disgraced politician.

Enjoy the veal!

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

My fault.
I did not read Yahoo news today.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/13/us-usa-politics-weiner-idUSTRE...

I didn't relize Democrat Anthony Weiner was deeper in trouble and the Democrats needed something to try to bait and switch from another DNC scandal.

IT'S TIME TO BRING UP TOM NOE AGAIN!

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

MikeyA
"Why does it matter and why do you care?"

Just curious. Thinking is there something I'm missing? Everyone takes what she says on these boards as being so full of wisdom and all knowing, treating her like Mother Teresa. If she is/was so wise and smart why did she break the law? Should she of been in a cell along with Noe? What other crooked and illegal things did she do while in office? Is what she did not so bad because of the Jim Tressel defense? (Everyone does it". I guess she probably did it for the money.

Libscanblowme:
Did not pose this question to imply Repubs do something that Dems do not. They are both crooked.

Billy, I did search this site but found no comment that Mrs. Thurber made about why she and her husband did what they did. That is why I axed if anyone had a link, I don't want to "knock myself" out.

Handbanna, so she made a generic apology that she copied from another crook. That still don't explain why she did it.

LD

LD it's not hard to find the answer to your question "Should she of been in a cell along with Noe?"

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=4310351 "The judge decided against possible jail time for the four: Lucas County Commissioner Maggie Thurber, Toledo City Councilwoman Betty Shultz, former Toledo Mayor Donna Owens and former state Rep. Sally Perz."

Here's why "The four women testified last summer before a federal grand jury investigating Noe. An attorney for three of the woman at the time said his clients were not under federal investigation because of their cooperation with the investigation, but the government did not make a formal offer of immunity."

So it sounds to me like a question of misguided trust and when they realized that Noe had done something wrong they assisted in bringing him to justice without any promises of their own.

But I found that with a quick google search of: Maggie Thurber, Donna Owens in court. So you must be curious but not THAT curious.

MikeyA

LD

"Handbanna, so she made a generic apology that she copied from another crook. That still don't explain why she did it."

LD, Banana was not referring to an apology she made. She wrote an opinion column for the Toledo Free Press on Memorial Day where according to her her citation was left off of the printed article. She was accused of plagarism and the TFP removed her as a columnist.

http://www.toledofreepress.com/2009/05/22/thurber-resigns-from-columnist...

MikeyA

Thanks for the link Mikeya. I don't see what the big deal was about there. Anyway she explained everything she did and why she did it in that response. She must not have come clean like that in the Noe conspiracy. Even though both right and left pull this shit, it doesn't make it right because "everyone does it" (Tressel defense). Underhanded deals like Mrs. Thurber tried to pull are one of the many reasons why our whole political system in this country is corrupt and a joke. Everyone is on the take. It makes one wonder if people like Mrs. Thurber should be on the radio or making righteous comments or giving advice to anyone on message boards after what she did. As they say, people have short memories.

Well are you being fair? "Underhanded deals like Mrs. Thurber tried to pull are one of the many reasons why our whole political system in this country is corrupt and a joke" You're making a judgment and by your own admission you don't know all the facts or her side. And as you describe her response to the plagarism case was clear and rational. Yet here you make it sound as if she was trying to do something wrong when we don't know that to be true.

" It makes one wonder if people like Mrs. Thurber should be on the radio or making righteous comments or giving advice to anyone on message boards after what she did." Again how do you know she did anything underhanded? It seems to me that with all of the women involved the biggest thing they did wrong was put their trust in Tom Noe, I can't say I blame them a lot of people did that.

Maggie's actions as well as the actions of the others show that they made a mistake and when they realized it and cooperated with investigators to get the real culprit. It says a lot to me that they cooperated fully with the Grand Jury without the promise of immunity. That speaks to them accepting responsiblity. Which is why I believe the judge gave them only a small fine and no jail time. That too speaks volumes.

MikeyA

"It makes one wonder if people like Mrs. Thurber should be on the radio or making righteous comments or giving advice to anyone on message boards after what she did. "

Maybe she should pick an anonymous moniker and then she could pot shot anybody she wants to, eh?

Awesome response. People like lame, wolf, and others take shots all the time under cover of anonimity Maggie at least and a few others identify themselves and stand by statements made.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

MikeyA, you said:
"Maggie's actions as well as the actions of the others show that they made a mistake and when they realized it and cooperated with investigators".

No doubt this is true but what your saying is that Mrs. Thurber and her fellow cohorts had no idea that what they were did was illegal, is that correct? I suppose that explanation is possible. It was all a big misunderstanding. Why didn't Mrs. Thurber just come out say this then? If she did comment about this can someone supply me the link. Thats all I was asking. When those defendants were in front of the judge were they singing that song by Men at Work, "Its a mistake"?

No

"No doubt this is true but what your saying is that Mrs. Thurber and her fellow cohorts had no idea that what they were did was illegal, is that correct?" No that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is you are making judgements and you yourself admit you do not have the facts.

MikeyA

http://lisareneeward.com/?p=228

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

a retiree sitting on his computer at 3am copying and pasting the thoughts of others...

sad little life...

Just like his hero, Rep Weiner. No need for sleep or a wife. He has the internet and Rosie Redpalm

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

BillyBob too bad you make your money on the 9 to 5! Someday you'll be free....maybe?

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

You stupidass right wing closet queers. Answer the fucking question. Thurber never said why she did what she did. She made a half ass apology after she get busted. Whoopie fucking do. Just tell the truth. Thurber talks like she is so righteous. She should of been in jail to.
Libscanblowme, the only weiner you see is the one that Fred the mexican sticks up your ugly wife's ass :)

this post signals that the right wingers have officially won the arguement.

MikeyA

Ah yes...the best and brightest that the libtards can offer...

I'll try and muster just as much concern over ex-polititian Thurber as you assclowns show over current corrupt polititian Kapture and her defense contractor money.

Felchers.

.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

RightWingersRQueer , no need to get so nasty.
MikeyA, Who was arguing or trying to win an argument? I just asked a simple question and it became political all of a sudden. Bill Maher said on his show friday that when a Dem does something bad, his fellow dems throws him under a bus, but when a Repub does something bad his fellow repubs defends him. It appears he is right with that observation.
Anyway after thinking about it I guess its pretty obvious why Mrs. Thurber never said publicly why she did it. It would be too embarrassing admitting she did it for some of that power and money that people become politicians for. Its not a right or left thing. Its a greed thing. End of discussion.

LD

"MikeyA, Who was arguing or trying to win an argument? I just asked a simple question and it became political all of a sudden."

Lame below is the argument I was referring to. RWRQ proved what Fred posted to be true. Thus, successfully proving his point.

"People like lame, wolf, and others take shots all the time under cover of anonimity Maggie at least and a few others identify themselves and stand by statements made."

MikeyA

"Bill Maher said on his show friday that when a Dem does something bad, his fellow dems throws him under a bus,"

Which we all know is pure bullshit...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Your stupid video has nothing to do with the topic. Why don't your yuppie want-a-bee sheep following ass go back to school and get your GED so you can learn to follow directions.

Z's video was a direct disproving of what LD had posted. The Dems rallied around Clinton. Which totally goes against the quote by Bill Mahr.

So maybe it's YOU who should learn to follow a conversation.

BTW - WTF is up with this? "want-a-bee" ?????? Z apparently you now are an aspiring beekeeper. LOL

MikeyA

And they are killer bee's mike.....mexican killer bee's...

They're bees, they're banditos, they're desperate.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Nobody "rallied" around Clinton, they stayed nuetral which is a lot different than when a closet queer conservative (such as you two assholes) get caught sucking off a 16 year old boy in a bathroom stall. As I said before Yuppie rejects. You two stooges are nothing but sheep. Baa baa

Wow you are an idiot.

"Nobody "rallied" around Clinton, they stayed nuetral..." They were neutral eh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal#Perjury_charges "All of the Democrats in the Senate voted for acquittal on both the perjury and the obstruction of justice charges..." Solidarity in the partisan ranks sure sounds neutral.

"when a closet queer conservative (such as you two assholes) get caught sucking off a 16 year old boy in a bathroom stall." Ok so you're going to assume I'm gay because I'm conservative. I don't really know how that works as I've met more homosexual liberals than homosexual conservatives. And it wasn't even close in numbers.

Secondly who/what are you referring to? I think you're getting two cases confused. The Mark Foley / Congressional Page scandal but in that case the only sexual conduct that was admitted by the pages after they had turned 18.

The only bathroom incident I know of was that wth Larry Craig who was arrested with Lewd conduct which was eventually dropped to disorderly conduct. Both Craig and the Officer involved acknowledged the only thing that had occured was Craig's foot tapping, which the Cop understood to be a proposition for sex that Craig denied. But again this does not accurately fit the description you gave so I'll ask for citation and clarification.

So since I could accurately describe and cite everything I would like to know how I am a sheep whereas you post conjecture and what appears to be inaccurate facts.

Also I fail to see how I am a Yuppie since I am in neither the upper middle class or upper class. You can google how much I make per year since military pay is public record. Also I am not a "Young Urban Professional" because well I do not live in an Urban area. The area I live in is as rural as they come (no kidding they had a parade when they finally opened up a McDonalds here 10 years ago, LITERALLY, A PARADE!)

The President is actually more of a Yuppie than I am.

You should edit and rename your post "Epic Fail" because that would accurately describe it. To see it in a visual display click below.

MikeyA

Non compos mentis.

Like every libtard before you...Buggery on the brain...

I bet you licked your lips when you typed that....

So fucked in the head..."right wingers are queer" the libtard says....but libtards say being queer is GOOD...

So...you think right wingers are Good?

Epic logic and nickname fail.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

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