Which SwampBubbles rivalry is the most entertaining?

Fred and Wolfman
63% (27 votes)
Zeitgeist and James Kirk
7% (3 votes)
MikeyA and Lilypad
2% (1 vote)
Other (Please include in comments)
28% (12 votes)
Total votes: 43
Your rating: None Average: 4.5 (2 votes)

Clearly Fred and Paul.

Because as pissed as Paul gets, he listens to Fred's show and his posts do more to promote Fred's show than anything else.

In fact, I have listened to WSPD less and less since Bob Frantz left. The only reason I tune in now is because Paul keeps me informed about what they're talking about!

That and Paul the liar keeps posting Thom Hartman videos which I love to watch because Thom Hartman looks like a child molester. I laugh so hard at that I miss all he's saying. It's like watching Tourettes Guy videos. You laugh so hard you miss all that's in it.

MikeyA

Yeah I'd have to go with Fred and dogboy as well...although I'm honored to even get a nomination...

And to think my mom aid I would never go anywhere...

TOP OF THE WORLD MA!...TOP OF THE WORLD!

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I proud to get the bronze medal, but the biggest reward is that I have a new friend in life called Zit Guest.

With friends like you...who needs enemas....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

You need a diversity of friends so that can get a well-rounded education.

You need a diversity of friends so that can get a well-rounded education.

I have to vote for Paul Wohlfarth and Fred LeFebvre the overweight, under educated, overpaid, right wing, radio host. I just enjoy the hell out of poking a stick at Paul. And I'm sure he doesn't realize that referring to me in the above terms doesn't bother me much becuase I still get a bonus and a paycheck no matter how fat, stupid, or far right I am. And bonus! I do it without the union propping me up. What a country.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

I agree with your description of yourself Fred....very observant! But, and there is always a Butt, large or otherwise, when speaking about talk show hosts. The self flatulation (new word) never stops but in this particular instance about under educated or as I would put it uneducated rings true in your post. The word Fred is 'because' spelled b-e-c-a-u-s-e!

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Careful Fred!...Loughner had a hang up for words too....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I had to vote for Fred and dogboy, even though I feel a bit ashamed doing so.
Picking on someone who speaks of himself in the third person is kind of like picking on a retarded person.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

these others are small potatoes compared to the elMahico/BrianinFlorida threads from a couple years ago. anyone remember them ?
BTW - MikeyA - who are YOU to be calling anyone a liar ?
are you still on the internet working out of your mother's basement on the east side ?
hahahahaahahahhaahahhahahhahaahahaha !

I've never lived on the East side. Don't know who you're talking about.

I grew up in South Toledo near where South and Airport cross and then my family moved to Maumee. I left the Toledo area when I joined the military and haven't returned long term since despite still voting there.

I have lived in Virginia, Michigan, North Carolina, and California since I left Ohio.

But yes I agree the BrianinFlorida and ElMahico rivalry was very entertaining.

MikeyA

I wouldn't even call my disagreements with Lilypad a rivalry. She is just a sheep who tows the union line without regard for the facts.

I'd save the term rival for purnhrt.

In fact, I wait for purnhrt to post just so I can reply. There aren't many times I've let her slip by. Her posting gives me a warm feeling inside.

MikeyA

It's not even a contest, Mikey, because you're not a worthy opponent. Never take on anyone who has more knowledge of a subject than you; it tends to make you look like a fool.

Sheep? That's a term I reserve for those who refuse to acknowledge that, sometimes, opposing viewpoints make sense so they ignore those viewpoints and bury their heads in the sand in order to maintain their indefensible positions. This is evidenced by your unwillingness (or inability) to muster a challenge to some of my statements.

"Sheep? That's a term I reserve for those who refuse to acknowledge that, sometimes, opposing viewpoints make sense so they ignore those viewpoints and bury their heads in the sand in order to maintain their indefensible positions. This is evidenced by your unwillingness (or inability) to muster a challenge to some of my statements."

Every time I've posted I've cited to back up my claims. And I would ask what statement of yours I haven't challenged? Cite please. Ewe however hurl insults and back nothing up.

So yes I agree with your assement on Sheep and still contend you are one.

In fact you are unwilling to muster a challenge to some of my statements like: Why are you in favor of taking away the right of servicemembers to legally imbibe alcohol? Are there any other rights you'd care to take away from them?

MikeyA

What do you want me to do? Surf web sites for citations? If that's what you expect you'll be disappointed because I don't engage in those tactics. Information gleaned from partisan web sites is a deterrent and adds nothing of value to a discussion. Too many folks here think that posting web site links proves that they are right (meaning correct). In reality, it doesn't prove anything other than bias which, again, makes you a sheep.

"In fact you are unwilling to muster a challenge to some of my statements like: Why are you in favor of taking away the right of servicemembers to legally imbibe alcohol? Are there any other rights you'd care to take away from them?"

Relax, Mikey. It was meant to be humorous. I respect the military. My grandpa lost both legs in WWI at the age of 23 and died an early death as a result of those injuries when a blood clot formed in one of his stumps and traveled to his heart. He gave a great deal in defense of his country, lived a full life, was a proud man, and never complained. I haven't forgotten that.

'What do you want me to do? Surf web sites for citations? If that's what you expect you'll be disappointed because I don't engage in those tactics" No I don't expect you to. I expect you to hurl insults and spew rhetoric based upon something a union sold you. Which is why I'm not surprised you can't back up your claims.

" Information gleaned from partisan web sites is a deterrent and adds nothing of value to a discussion." In my debate with you I cited the state of Ohio, ABC news. Watch out for the partisianship there.

" In reality, it doesn't prove anything other than bias which, again, makes you a sheep." I post from reputable news agencies, government websites, and also wikipedia. Where is the bias in those? Am I a sheep because I believe the state of Ohio's educational data? Who should I be trusting? You? You can't even back up your claims with facts. I can.

" It was meant to be humorous." and it was. I laughed so hard I nearly pissed myself. In fact I sent it in to the Tonight Show so they can use it in their monologue. It's better than the "Do you like fish sticks" joke.

"I respect the military." You don't need to tell me. I already know this. I recorded your statements and I now play them set to the Ray Charles version of America The Beautiful. It brings a tear to the eye. It really does. I'm going to make the ice cream man play it on his speaker in an effort to boost military recruitment.

MikeyA

No worries Mike...being a libtard means you never have to actually support the arguments you make....simply making them is enough...

"It's not the nature of the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge that matters."

The last one around here who could actually at least provide some back up to their outragious claims was historymike Mr PHD...

Got his ass handed to him regularly by a shmoe with a highschool education and basic search engine skills.

Hell...I even had to go check and see if he was still active on the net.....he is...just not here anymore...

Of course his typical libtard responce would be something like " oh...I found it beneath me to slum it over there...no one worthy of serious discusion....nothing but name calling and hate speech"

Yeah...he'd still only be half right...

I'm going to put up and interesting article on the actual physical brain differences between liberals and conservatives...and illustrate a few things that are relevent to this very thread ,many of the posts....and even life in general...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

You're right Z. Why would I need to prove I used reason and logic to make a conclusion when I can just insult and attack? It's so much easier.

Her last post was like a line out of a Marx brothers movie. "Who do you believe me or your own eyes?" Groucho Marx - Duck Soup 1933

MikeyA

"I respect the military." You don't need to tell me. I already know this. I recorded your statements and I now play them set to the Ray Charles version of America The Beautiful. It brings a tear to the eye. It really does. I'm going to make the ice cream man play it on his speaker in an effort to boost military recruitment."

You are a vicious little bastard and a disgrace to the uniform you wear.

"You are a vicious little bastard and a disgrace to the uniform you wear"

I love it when the mask slips off.....you simply cannot help yourself...

"when you understand the nature of a thing....you know what it's capable of"

I fully understand the nature of Liberals...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Apparently, you also love it when a member of the military desecrates the memory of a decorated vet. You're a piece of shit, just like Mikey.

LOL

LOL, How did either Z or I desecrate the memory of a decorated vet?

I used your own words against you and somehow that makes me fecal matter.

MikeyA

This Mikey:

"My grandpa lost both legs in WWI at the age of 23 and died an early death as a result of those injuries when a blood clot formed in one of his stumps and traveled to his heart. He gave a great deal in defense of his country, lived a full life, was a proud man, and never complained."

Ah...there's that inate liberal ability to process conflicting information again...

Of course it means nothing that you didnt even address the grandfather at all...

"it not the nature of the evidence...it's the seriousness of the chrage that really matters"

Liily tosses out the word "desecration" like a sledge hammer that in lilly's mind will instantly cower you into submission...

But if Lilly REALLY cared about the desecration of decorated Military heros....she would not BE a liberal at all.....she would be disgusted with the way Liberals ACT twords the military...and whould shun them...or at least condemn it....

Nope...not even a condemnation for Code pink calling ALL soldiers...INCLUDING HER GRANDFATHER...WAR CRIMINALS.

Game, set, match.

Same shit , different day.....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I'll see you and raise you.

"But if Lilly REALLY cared about the desecration of decorated Military heros...." she would not have disrespected me as a veteran.

citation: "You are a vicious little bastard and a disgrace to the uniform you wear."

I laughed when I read her comments because it speaks to everything else I've said. Rather than make a cogent argument she instead chooses to insult and attack.

MikeyA

"Of course it means nothing that you didnt even address the grandfather at all..."

Sure he did. He said he was using my own words against me, and he didn't say my remarks about my grandfather were excluded. His comments were easily interpreted as sarcastic and dismissive. If this was not his intention, he could have indicated some appreciation for my grandfather's service, but he didn't do that.

Yes, my thinking leans left in terms of many social issues. It doesn't mean I automatically absorb and spew every bit of what you would probably call "liberal ideology." I've never said anything anti-military here. The men and women of my generation served in Vietnam and they deserved to be honored with our respect and appreciation - not the shameful treatment they received when they came home - and I always pointed that out to people who hated the war and, often, those who served there.

You should try thinking for yourself outside the box once in a while.

Moved for format:

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

What I like best about you, Lilypad, is that you know how to spell and where to place commas. You should conduct a remedial course for Swampbubblers.

Patience is a great virtue.

I agree, Donwert. Lilypad does know how to spell and place commas, but can she sell Watkins Products?

Crazy talk Kirk...show me your friends and I'll show you your future...

Besides...your attempt to label yourself as my "friend" violates my freedom of association.

Try cruising craigslist for your "friends".....or stick to public restrooms.....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I have adopted you as my friend because you need some serious help. It is your choice if you want to be my friend. Regardless of what you choose I have chosen you, taking advantage of my freedom of association. I will guide you in the right direction to free your troubled, tiny mind. If you cannot accept this wonderful gift of friendship I am giving to you, making masochistic love to yourself will probably open your eyes. People, who I heard who tried to do this, say a 4 foot, spear-end broom handle with Teflon tape wrapped around it works best. Some others recommend heated, unsliced salami. Please be careful not to puncture your heart when engaging in this special therapeutic aid recommended to you.

I am excited to read your reply to this very important message.

What the?

Buggery on the brain.......

Well..at least we know why you are so popular with your deviant friends and your hang up with the public men's rooms.......

I must have missed Kirk being a sweet transvestite episode of Trek...

To boldly go where no real man ever wants to go...up his own ass....

Frickin Ew...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

to be a military person, you are a little person........you wait for me to post so you can make an idiotic statement?......that sounds kind of stalkish.......you give the military a bad name.......what are you going to do with your warm feeling....lol...

Mike has been posting steady for days...where the hell you been?

Put down the blunt granny...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

You shouldn't be here. They're discussing race in two other threads.

No purnhrt you're getting your rhetoric all wrong. You said I'm not in the military remember.

MikeyA

I have to vote fore Paul too. It seems like most here are pupets or employees of WSPD (maybe both are the same). At Paul is fair and balanced.

LMAO....that you paul?

Benn here a whole year and three comments?....all in support of Dogboy?

Hrmm...what are the odds...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

LOL doesn't he get it that we can tell that it's him posting because he doesn't attempt to cover up his tendancies?

His sock puppets write the exact same way he does. There are several clues I've used in the past to ID Paul the Liar's sock puppet posts. He's like the bank robber that puts on a mask but forgets to cover the tatoo on his hand.

MikeyA

Worse...he's the bank robber who writes his hold up note on his deposit slip...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Sure he did. He said he was using my own words against me, and he didn't say my remarks about my grandfather were excluded.

Behold the logic of a libtard...he meant something because of what he DIDINT say...

His comments were easily interpreted as sarcastic and dismissive.

"interpreted" by YOU...through the filter of liberalism...perpetually offended...while offending others...

If this was not his intention, he could have indicated some appreciation for my grandfather's service, but he didn't do that.

Yep....you claim he was mean because he didnt even mention your grandfather at all...how insensitive!

Yes, my thinking leans left in terms of many social issues.

Thank you captian obvious...I would have never guessed...

But "many" also means "not all"...

So tell us...exactly where do you and the radical left part ways?

It doesn't mean I automatically absorb and spew every bit of what you would probably call "liberal ideology."

I certainly havent seen you post a single thing that I cant find in any other libtard post on the entire web...all you've done is spew liberal talking pionts...even geting all indignant when asked to source your assertions...

I've never said anything anti-military here.

Lily...using the SAME LOGIC YOU JUST PULLED ON MIKE...you have had a change TWICE now to openly condemn coke Pink...yet have chosen NOT TO...

Thus...I can only assume you support such treatment of Military Veterans

The men and women of my generation served in Vietnam and they deserved to be honored with our respect and appreciation - not the shameful treatment they received when they came home -

WHO TREATED THEM LIKE THAT???

WHO?

and I always pointed that out to people who hated the war and, often, those who served there.

Yeah sure....I'm in the market for a bridge too...

The LEFT is STILL protesting Vietnam vets...

And they HATE Iraq vets who are proud of their service...

You should try thinking for yourself outside the box once in a while.

Right back atcha'

Reality is not a box.

There is NO SUCH THING as a "principled" liberal...anyone with any kind of core principles would have left them long ago...

Unless you SHARE those core beliefs..

That's why I am a FORMER LIBERAL.....I grew up...

So yell us Miss expert...where do you and the left part ways?.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Why don't you take a break and let Mikey speak for himself?

"...you have had a change TWICE now to openly condemn coke Pink...yet have chosen NOT TO..."

No, and I also haven't talked about paying my respects at Arlington Cemetery, the Tomb of the Unknown, and all of the war memorials in DC. No, Z, I don't rally, carry signs, threaten people, or jump up and down screaming. I'm way beyond that - an indication that I've REALLY grown up - which is why I choose to ignore much of your ranting and the "bad liberal" videos you grab off You Tube and the other sites dear to your heart. Wolfman does the same in reverse. It's pointless and you negate each other. You, and others here, have judged, stamped, and dismissed me as a liberal extremist because I believe in unions and support public education. I rarely, if ever, respond to purely political threads. You have defined me according to your strict set of beliefs which is a clear indication of your firmly entrenched mindset. Who are the real "drones" here?

Why don't you take a break and let Mikey speak for himself?

I wasnt speaking for Mike...nor would I attempt to...

"...you have had a change TWICE now to openly condemn coke Pink...yet have chosen NOT TO..."

No, and I also haven't talked about paying my respects at Arlington Cemetery, the Tomb of the Unknown, and all of the war memorials in DC."

Well good for you...still not a condemnation....

No, Z, I don't rally, carry signs, threaten people, or jump up and down screaming. I'm way beyond that - an indication that I've REALLY grown up -

Go back and read closely...I didnt SAY you did....I said the people you are supporting politicaly...did...

You railed against the treatment of Vietnam vets....yet it was the LEFT that treated them that way...that spit a t them, tht cursed them, that called them baby killers...

which is why I choose to ignore much of your ranting and the "bad liberal" videos you grab off You Tube and the other sites dear to your heart.

Of course you ignore it....how else can you avoid having to condemnt it.....

You stated you dont like the way vets are treated...yet when you have the chance to voice that condemnation...at those responsible for that treatment....you go into ignore mode...

Wolfman does the same in reverse.

Perhaps if you watched what he posts vs what I post...you'd see the clear difference...

He posts stuff from a talking head who tells you what people say....I post the people saying it...

Horses ass vs horses mouth...as it were...

I DO watch what dogboy posts...I also read what he posts and go and check the source myself....otherwise..how could I possibly offer comment if I dont know what I'm comenting on?

It's pointless and you negate each other.

Dont tell dogboy...he'll be crush at being negated....

You, and others here, have judged, stamped, and dismissed me as a liberal extremist because I believe in unions and support public education.

Vs the poo you've thrown supporting unions....

So you belong to a Union?

Yes...no...

I do...been a member for almost two decades....

I rarely, if ever, respond to purely political threads.

LMAO!!!!....Sure...

You have defined me according to your strict set of beliefs

You have defined YOURSELF through your various statements and voiced positions...

If you wish to be "defined "otherwise....then state otherwise...

When you waddle and quack...someone might mistake you for acting like duck...

which is a clear indication of your firmly entrenched mindset. Who are the real "drones" here?

If my mindset was firmly entrenched and my abiltity to learn and grow was gone...I'd still be a liberal...

I have some issue with the "right"...but you never stopped to ask what they might be...

I have stopped and asked you more then once now....where do you and the radical left part ways?

Only to be met with "__________"......

So fill in the blank.....is there anywhere that you part ways with the left?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

"Sure he did. He said he was using my own words against me, and he didn't say my remarks about my grandfather were excluded. His comments were easily interpreted as sarcastic and dismissive. If this was not his intention, he could have indicated some appreciation for my grandfather's service, but he didn't do that."

Just so you know Lily I specifically didn't mention your grandfather because I didn't feel your mentioning of him was pertinent to the conversation. You made comments, I rebutted them. Your comments were clearly disrespectful and in my rebuttal I made fun of your comment that you respect the military. Anything further you take from that is you reading too much in. I guess I shouldn't be surprised because you've inferred things about people on this site without providing any backup information to display your thought process that I shouldn't be surprised that you're now doing the same thing with me - Making judgements about people based upon.... well... nothing actually.

Secondly, suggesting that anyone should HAVE to express gratitude for your grandfather's service is a disgrace to his sacrifice.

Let me explain this carefully because I know it may be hard for you to understand. Those of us who give without expectation of payback find ourselves so much more fulfilled than those who do. That's because when someone tells us they appreciate us it's unexpected and it means so much more. However to expect it cheapens and destroys it.

On this site several have offered me thanks for serving. I've always said it was not needed. I sometimes say a little joke we say in the military of "No need to thank me the government thanks me on the 1st and 15th every month". However I've always instead encouraged others to give thanks to those I feel more deserving of me. Here I go citing things again. http://swampbubbles.com/20110302/good-and-bad

I find it funny that you post in favor of public workers who will still have jobs. Will still have benefits but because of the financial situation would rather see a whole state go into bankruptcy to keep paying them all so the union can keep their pockets lined.

AND during the same time we were faced with a government shutdown. Had it happened I wouldn't have been paid. My Marines would not have been paid. I'm talking about people who would NOT recieve 100% of their paycheck. These are people who live paycheck to paycheck because they get paid so little (I make the equivalent of a failing teacher in TPS and I'm on the UPPER end of the scale) and they wouldn't receive money to feed their families.

Yet despite that. Where did I get on here and whine like a union employee? Where did I say poor me? I didn't. Please look through the site. Where did I discuss it? I didn't. Unlike the unions we take care of our own and we don't expect anything from others.

I don't need to say I appreciate them. Not one bit. The best way I can honor my Marines and every other veteran is to come into work every day, train them to the highest of standards, look out for their welfare, push them to excel and by God more than anything else.... lead them. If I train them so that they come home to their families they will know how much I appreciate them. And that's what you don't understand.

There's not one veteran I know who would expect anything else.

MikeyA

"There's not one veteran I know who would expect anything else."

*cough* John F'n Kerry *cough*

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

"Just so you know Lily I specifically didn't mention your grandfather because I didn't feel your mentioning of him was pertinent to the conversation."

Yes, it was pertinent. I was explaning why I have respect for the military.

"...I made fun of your comment that you respect the military."

There you have it. Caught in your own web.

"Unlike the unions we take care of our own and we don't expect anything from others."

Since when do my federal tax dollars (and those of millions of other Americans) NOT support your pay, benefits, and government pension? Would you be willing to give up some of that to help curb the federal deficit? It's no different than what you demand of state government workers. Here's the story if we use your logic: You work for me, the American taxpayer. I support you financially, so I have the right to own you.

When we discussed schools you cited numbers and did not reply or attempt to discuss with me my assertion that there are legitimate issues that impact those figures. Instead, you referred once again to the same numbers in this thread. Why are you unwilling to have a conversation with someone who doesn't agree with you?

"Yes, it was pertinent." You say, I say otherwise and made my comments under that thought. "I was explaning why I have respect for the military." You made a disrespectful comment on the military by suggesting they weren't doing their job.

"There you have it. Caught in your own web." um.... nope. Not caught. I made fun of YOU. Get it now? I made fun of YOU. Not the military, not your grandfather. But YOU. Like when I call you a sheep for your political rhetoric, I'm not calling your uncle a sheep, I'm calling EWE a sheep.

"Since when do my federal tax dollars (and those of millions of other Americans) NOT support your pay, benefits, and government pension?" Um.... did you read my post? Without a budget I wouldn't have gotten paid. I notice you didn't fight as hard for us as you did for public workers of WI.

"Would you be willing to give up some of that to help curb the federal deficit?" I was willing to not get paid in order for the Gov't to pass a budget that makes sense (again I was for the shutdown if we couldn't make cuts, we made cuts there was no shutdown - no complaints from me). Plus my wife and I had already discussed options for us to buy groceries for Marines in my command who couldn't get them for their children. Again as I said, we take care of our own. And I think if we need to cut anywhere it should be failing teachers who make more than most of the military. (Public record, look it up)

"You work for me, the American taxpayer. I support you financially, so I have the right to own you." Wow, actually a cogent thought. ( I will replace "own" with employ because I'm sure that's what you meant and I know you are suggesting a return to indentured servitude) Yes, and I serve at the pleasure of the President. Feel free to start a letter writing campaign to cut the benefits and pay of our underpaid military. Start a petition! I'm sure Code Pink will sign it. You know what. I'll even sign it for you as long as you agree to quit whining about the overpaid teachers in Toledo who can't do their job.

"When we discussed schools you cited numbers and did not reply or attempt to discuss with me my assertion that there are legitimate issues that impact those figures." I will admit there are things that have an affect on the numbers, yes. Yet you give anecdotes and no objective facts on which you base your thesis. I believe there are things that affect the numbers but not to the tune of 25% which was the average difference of TPS vice every other school district.

MikeyA

Like usual Mike and Zeitgeist you are both wrong again. Sorry to pop your bubbled little mind but am not Paul. :) The scariest part of some here on Swambubbles is that they are right in their own heads but wrong in reality. Must be why many of you get along so well here. Maybe it's the puppet saga again. I've been entertained by watching for a while now but never really wanted to get envolved in any of the topics. But when the poll about Paul reached such high numbers I thought that I would chime in. So for now I'll hit the bee hive with a stick and run away. To explain it to you Mike and Zeitgeist so that you'll understand it, I'll just set back and be entertained. Toodaloo :)

Buh bye Nate...see you in a couple months...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Good one, Mikey. Your last post had me ROTFLMAO. You and Zeit are two of the best draws for those who read SB for purely entertainment reasons. Watching the two of you fumble and stumble all over yourselves is comedy at it's best. The ratings should go through the roof.

Keep up the good work, boys. Catch you in another thread.

Still thinking with your box I see....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”