Food town question - feel free to school me


A man owns a business and wants out for whatever reason.

He finds a buyer that happens to be a viable ongoing business that he's already partnering with and has been doing business with for years.

It sounds like an opportunity for the prospective buyer who is currently a successful 'middle man' and wants to get into the 'end user' part of the supply chain.

Sounds like a good match and the deal goes thru.

In the end it didnt work out and it wasnt profitable for the new owners and they opted to close down their new acquisition.

NOW - three of the original stores have been reopened by new ownership, who has deemed the previous owner (the middle man company) is reliable and viable enough to continue the partnership with and the stores are up and running as they had before.

To me this just sounds like a "life goes on" situation. How is it that the original owner is demonized? Did he not sell to a viable buyer? Someone he'd successfully done business with for years?

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What did farcy do at the time all this happened? I don't recall her using her position next to the gavel to help save the day. If this situation wasn't important enough to her back when it happened, how can it possibly be important now?

Note to unions. You produce nothing. The business owner employs workers that in turn pay you union dues. The business managers get rich off the hard work of the members. Why don't you union employees look at how much your union heads make. I've heard plenty of Kroger workers complain their union does nothing for them. My brother worked there and so does a long-time friend. I've heard the same from UPS workers. I know of a business that employed heavy construction workers. The union sent over an apprentice that really didn't know what they were doing. The company sent what was thought to be a competent apprentice that was in the apprenticeship program. Well this apprentice ended up sleeping on the job in a place they shouldn't have been and ended up crushed by a piece of equipment. You unions sure do care about your membership. All you are is a dues paying nobody to them. Why don't these unions start their own business and employ their own members. Put your money where you big stupid mouths are.

Do you like paid vacations? Do you like paid sick days? Do you like health benefits? Actually do you like having a job? THANK the unions, don't run them down. In the days before unions none of this existed. Men used to go to the factory gate and stand and wait before a shift started. The company owner would send a person out to choose who would come in and work that day. If you were lucky or not on a blacklist you got in. If you didn't get in to work guess what? You and your family starved. A person held no rights to a job before unions. Stop and think about this before you make silly posts.

Note to Sarge:

Unions have long outlived their purpose (except to enrich the Leadership's pockets). Just about as long as Farcy uses her Very Own Personal NAFTA Excuse as to why things stink in Toledo. You two would make a great couple. Oh wait....

Toledo: The Land That Time Forgot. And unfortunately every new and profitable business.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.-Ben Franklin

The big business owners will take away all the benefits. Paid vacations, sick days etc. Without the threat of a union hanging over the head of business owners they would grant none of these benefits. You talk about NAFTA, well, without unions or the threat of unions American workers would be no better off than the foreign workers that NAFTA serves so well. I can see it now: no benefits, no OSHA, Americans earning about $5.00 a day. That would be the perfect scenario for the greedy big shot business owners. Destroy the unions and destroy America and the American Dream. The American Dream would become a nightmare.

Are you really that stupid or is this an act to get a response. In either case let me point out that a business owner faced with competition will pay a higher wage, better benefits etc to get qualified employees. Henry Ford started it with the $5 wage without union help. Employees will search out companies that pay better wages and bennies and those that don't pay them will go out of business.
Unions protect the worst of the workers, the ones who lie, cheat, steal, don't pull thier weight etc etc. Having been in a union for at least 10 years I have seen the evidence first hand. I worked my ass off and paid union dues so that these morons could keep their jobs. Union stewards of course only approached me when I started to complain about the company and it's policies.
The American Dream is not to be in a union, it's to come here, work hard, earn a living, better your life, and give your kids a better future. Millions of Americans did it for a hundred years before the union.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

...your union has no jobs.

Let' s cut to the chase here...I as an employee have two basic rights:
1) to work in a safe work atmosphere
2) to be paid a fair wage for my work.

It is not my right to have my employer provide health insurance.
It is not my right to have my employer provide other sundry benefits.
And yes, it's nice when they do.

Unions have played a positive role in curbing business abuses. However, IMO, it needs to go back to focusing on items 1 and 2 above. If business abuses created unions; union excesses have created Wal-Mart.

Political Championship Wrestling- putting politics in proper perspective by presenting it as pro wrestling.

Coming in January, a political satire about the sorry state of American Politics- Jesusland vs. Progressiveville.

My grandfather was president of a UMW local when he retired. He mined coal for 54 years. When he started they had no union. That was 1893. No safety laws or benefits. He died of black lung disease otherwise known as emphysema from breathing in that coal dust. By the time they formed a union his pay increased and so did the level of safety. Business owners did not willingly give in to men fighting and yes getting killed to form a union. Benefits were hard won by the blood and suffering of many workers. Have you ever heard of the Electric Auto-Lite strike that happened right here in Toledo? How many lives were lost in that battle for a union? You had better educate yourself before you begin to spout off. Oh, I forgot, that is the way right-wing blowhards like you get a following from narrow minded people who listen to your trash on the radio. By the way my grandfather was only 13 when he was hired. How many companies would be allowed to hire him at that age now since we have UNIONS?

13? So let me guess. He never finished school. That explains a lot.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

And Kentucky. Kentucky didn't have a public school system until the 1920's. That was another right the people had to win from bigshot Republicans. Besides he had to work to help support his parents. Did you ever have to really WORK?



Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Being a talk show host on WSPD-AM is not really WORK. All the men and women who have to really WORK for a living keep your sponsors in business. Without your sponsors and the people who keep them afloat you would have to get a real JOB. Think about that Freddie.

I answered your previous question, no. Even a 13 year old could read that.

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

I did not see your previous post. I overlooked it. The fault is totally my own and I am sorry. Sometimes I overreact. That is one of my main faults which I am working to try to correct.

Sarge, listen very carefully.

The American Dream became a nightmare already through the use of massive debts to support the lifestyle. We already destroyed it all by making our labor and compliance costs far larger than those offered by overseas locations.

Economics trumps your nationalism. You will advocate supporting unions while they flee the private sector and clog up the public sector? Really? Because that's exactly what you're doing. The end product will be massive taxes to support the elite government workers, and those taxes must be imposed on you sad sacks earning that same $5/day wages that you feared, yet could not stop (since as I said, economics trumps, here).

American wages must fall overall in order to compete globally. You can't close the borders, since neither major party will enact that. So capital is more than free to move across the world, which trumps labor. Knowing logically that that sort of thing must happen, then you are preparing for that future of wage scarcity in the USA by downgrading your lifestyle, right?

I'm laughing about that, right now. Most of you are still clinging to your outrageous, debt-fueled lifestyles. You are all part of the problem. Not only do you maintain unsustainable lifestyles, but you only vote for politicians who are encouraging globalism. The logical end of that sort of insanity, is a widespread culture of foreclosure and bankruptcy. And, NO, the government won't just let you keep "your" house.

Your spoon-fed Union hack talking points are so full of shyt it's laughable.
HERE are the facts that your Union puppet-masters have kept from you.

The Union-fed lie: "Do you like health benefits? "
And the truth that Union hack retards hope you are too stupid to know:

World War II created health insurance perk
Ron French / The Detroit News
The fact that GM pays anything for health care is an accident of history.
To halt inflation during the war, the government put a cap on wage raises. To compensate workers, companies began offering health insurance.
By the time the cap on raises was lifted, health insurance had become a common perk to attract and retain workers.

From The Detroit News:

Damn Union-fed lie #2: "Do you like paid sick days?"
Article explaining why paid sick days IS CHEAPER for employers EVEN IN NON-UNION HACK industries.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a

To Toledo Talk and troll. I'm sure jr loves you there.

"Go Back To Toledo Talk and troll."

Why don't you Harley? Billy is a more regular poster on here than you.


Intelligent and vital - just like we've come to expect. as far as TT, I'd be happy to post out there and I still do.

Why dont you go - oh yeah, that's the one you got kicked off of isnt it? What was the reason again, I cant remember.... (I'll be happy to go look it up for you tho if you'd need)

He's free to cash in at any time. The problem is that Mr. Business Owner became Mr. Candidate, and the public doesn't like to see someone get rich off of a deal that eventually cost the area 5,000 jobs.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at


thanks for the feedback, but can you elaborate? Did the man sell to a viable company? is it HIS fault what happened, or is it spartans?

How often do we see here in toledo a long standing restaurant is sold to a new buyer who runs it into the ground.

Is that the original owner's fault?

side note - 5000 jobs? really? that sounds huge to me. How many people worked at each store?

If my post was so silly, why did you comment. It hit a nerve with you because I spoke the truth and libloons like you can't handle the truth. You also can't handle a woman telling you how it is. You're nothing but a bully and the way to handle a bully like you is getting right back in your face. STFRU, jackass.

Is it the union paying you for your sick days and vacations? No, it's the business owner so why don't you thank that business owner for taking the initiative and starting a company that provides you with your living. It's not the union thugs putting their money where their big mouths are.

lets not compare Sarge to "Libloons"...

Liberals have one political view that differs from the conservative viewpoint and vice versa, but if you read out here the libs dont back Sarge up.

They know he's just a moron. Kind of like the neighbors dog that barks too much. A bit annoying, but otherwise nothing to really be concerned about...

as far as the woman thing - if you go out to a site called toledo talk, go into the search and put in "red light district" and see how a poster named Harley (Sarge under another name) wants one here in town... that should explain a lot - another creepy layer of that onion is Sarge is an ordained minister (according to him).

adding that all together you can probably get a picture for yourself. Basic booger eating idiot with a keyboard....

I have to agree. Not even liberals will support Opal Covey.


Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

This sarge just has an icky creepy vibe to him. He must be really warped if liberals won't even claim him.

I will check that site out. Thanks for the information.

It's so delightful to read your personal attacks on each other. More fun than tuning in to the Hannity show and watching the host shout over his guests. "Booger-eating idiot"? "Icky creepy"? You gonna let them get away with that, Sarge? C'mon, man, start posting some insults (really good ones) for the benefit of furthering our political discourse.

Patience is a great virtue.

for your interesting discourse - as always, I appreciate your input on my original question and getting the thread back on track

I didn't get the thread off track. It instantly went off the rails with a lot of insults and name-calling. And I have to say, yours are some of the best. I was merely making an observation. The way you folks verbally punch each other is amusing. Such anger, such hostility. It's funny as hell. And thank you for not calling me a "booger-eater" in your post, although I have been accused of that.

Patience is a great virtue.

Eats something despicable but I will not say what because I am too much of a Christian and gentleman.

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