Updated.. New Black Panthers Turn on Obama in an N-Word, Uncle Tom Tirade..

"We can no longer depend on Barack Obama, he is with the white man. He is an Uncle Tom. With the rise of the Tea Party, the white-right and other racist forces and with gun sales nationwide at an all time high amongst whites, with a mood that is more anti-Black than anytime recent, it is imperative that we organize our forces, pool our resources and prepare for war!” The white man's time is up".says Chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz, and Farrakhan.

Wow! Looks like they will have to fight with China and the other Muslims for control of America...

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Are we moving toward a revolution?

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Wonder if I said "I wanna kill nig### babies. I hate every iota of a nig###"
Suppose THAT would be hate speech.
Black Panthers are the Black Liberation Front which is the same organization Jeremiah Wright-Obama's church for 20 yrs- is part of.
Understand now?!

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.-Ben Franklin

Pffft...it's perfecty legal to kill black babies....the people doing it are called "planned parenthood'....founded by Margaret Sanger...ugenist...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger

"Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring"

You can even donate money for the specific purpose of killing a minority baby....

Arent liberals cool?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

The Black Panthers have no connection to the Black Liberation Front, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Reverend Wright, President Obama's pastor. He teaches the black liberation theology which is taught in most black churches with any involvement in social justice.
What may be happening is when you see Black they all meld together and they all become one organization. You may mean the Black Liberation Army, which has no connection to Reverend Wright or the Black Liberation Front but does have a slight connection to the Black Panthers as it was started after the Black Panthers organization was demolished by the FBI.

Has only a slight connection to the Black Panthers, does that make it any less of a connection. And now they have turned on Obama, why? Purn...

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Punhurts you ignorant slut....

Obama, Farrakhan, Wright, van Jones,Black panthers, Black liberation army, YOU....

All cut from the same cloth...hate whitey....

While you stand shoulder to shoulder with the party of slavery... open racists....America haters...the democrats....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Is it just me, or does Malik Zulu Shabazz sort of remind one of Algonquin J. Calhoun?

I haven't heard a reference to Amos & Andy for over forty years.

Does this put them on par with the Minutemen? Their voter intimidation that was never investigated either. Is it the same, or is it different? If it's different--why is it?

Pink Slip

It appears there are factions out there who want a civil war. Ninety-nine plus percent of us aren't interested in such a thing. It appears that one side feels they have lost their entitlement, and the other side wants to spread their hate and paronoia. There is a third side. Those of us who want a safe, united, prosperous nation. I'm not going to validate this poison from either side. Let them get together and they can duke it out and leave the rest of us alone.

I wish we could indicate that we agree with the wisdom of an SB post by hitting a "like" button. But since we can't, I have to type a comment: You hit the nail on the head, Glotz.

It is about time someone stood up to the biggoted racists that run the NAACP.

Tea Party Preempts 'Racist' Resolution, Condemns 'Bigoted' NAACP
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/13/tea-party-preempts-racist-res...

How do the 'New Black Panthers' translate into 'Obama's New Civilian Police Force'? What is the connection there?

Do you pay attention to whats going on? I have come to the conclusion that you are out of touch with what’s going on right in front of you face, and you are deliberately ignoring what Obama stands for, or you just agree with his agenda. The Tea Party people, Republicans/Conservatives are considered racists according to The New Black Panthers. The White House will use the Panthers to counter those who are perceived to be against Obama's agenda, Glenn Beck, the Constitution, Freedom, and Capitalism ect. Open your mind and see that this country is being divided to the point of a possible revolution because of certain beliefs, Liberty and Freedom vs. Progressivism and Socialism.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

I would appreciate distinct points illuminating your statement.
a) Those are not dichotomous viewpoints.
b) I don't know why you continually equate progressive thought with socialism.
c) How is Obama's agenda anti-constitutional? Or capitalism? Or Freedom?

And how does what the New Black Panther movement says really matter, any more than what the KKK or other extremist group says, in terms of the overall agenda of the white house?

What’s not clearly defined, OK life liberty and the pursuit of happeness,/ Freedom and the Constitution. You sound like McCaskey. Go research progressivism it = SOCIALISM

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

- Thank you for the comparison to McCaskey. He makes pretty cogent arguments and usually doesn't resort to namecalling, hysteria, or making irrational statements to try and make a point.
- Progressivism does not equal socialism (in fact, was spawned as a response to radical conservatism and socialism that were running rampant). Nor does liberalism. Nor does liberalism equal progressivism. Nor does conservatism equal fascism. I recommend you follow your own advice and do research, even a simple Wikipedia search will reveal the differences.
- Progressivism does not work against freedom and liberty. Its not anti-constitutional ideal. My question was for you to define HOW progressivism does, since that was your statement.
- I would argue that when people make dichotomous statements like Liberty and Freedom vs Progressivism and Socialism, THAT is at the root of much current strife. THAT is a divisive statement looking to split and oppose, as opposed to looking for common ground and understanding.

"you for the comparison to McCaskey. He makes pretty cogent arguments and usually doesn't resort to namecalling, hysteria, or making irrational statements to try and make a point."

Oh that's frickin hillarious!!!!

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

We dont call him McNasty for nothing...

Progressives are the scum of the earth...a cancer...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

LOL, thanks, I know you meant that as a compliment and I'll certainly take it as such.

The progressive shoe fits...wear it proudly...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Speaking of comparisons, Eric Holder is a real Richard Cranium!

I would argue "Progressive" movement = Communism and the murder of anyone thought to be a threat to the transformation.

The Weather Underground, progressive terrorist organization of the late 60's, roster of criminals is like a who's who list of Progressives in positions of power in the BO administration or otherwise working very closely with him. Bill Ayers is one of the nastiest commies the "Progressives" have to offer. And a great pal of BO.

The FBI infiltration of this terrorist organization and the following interview with the FBI agent reveals the murderous intent of these cretins.

Can you imagine "...sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.” A lot of people have now had the opportunity to listen to you, and contemplate the horrors these people planned."
http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2010/06/10/video-undercover-fbi-a...

that I sit around with Pink Slip, Wombat, Sensor, Handbanana, HistoryMike, a few others from SB plotting the elimination of you and your ilk as represented on this site.

All right! When's the next meetin', boys???

You can only hope to be as good a progressive/communist as Bill Ayers. In America everyone has an opportunity to be what they are best at. And even a Marxist has become president, in my opinion. :)

As per the association between Obama and Ayers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers_presidential_election_controversy

Clearly an overblown, exagerrated, election-driven attempt to make a serious link between the two. They served on various boards together. They were present at various functions together. That does not make them fast and furious friends, it does not mean the likes of Bill Ayers, who I personally believe to be a terrorist, has any present-day influence whatsoever on the Obama administration or serves in any 'advisory' capacity, serious or otherwise.

"William C. Ibershof, the lead federal prosecutor of the Weather Underground case, wrote to the New York Times on October 9, 2008:

"I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child. Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen."

What you claimed earlier:

"The Weather Underground, progressive terrorist organization of the late 60's, roster of criminals is like a who's who list of Progressives in positions of power in the BO administration or otherwise working very closely with him."

Bull fucking shit. Pony up some names. Let's hear who they are---put up or shut up, McCarthy, or did you intentionally mangle the sentence to give you an 'out'--that you only meant Obama progressives were 'like' the Weather Underground, not actually 'part' of what was the Weather Underground???

Ah yes...forget the coffee party to kick off Obama's senate campaign in Bill aryes living room...

When Bill aryes was bombing the pentagon...obama was only 8 years old!....studying the Koran...in indonesia...

Obama pals around with terrorists...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

the 'coffee party'...where they no doubt served coffee, tea and krimpets, maybe played around with a little C-4, some Composition B, with Ayers and Bernadette regaling the whole gathering with some 'Days of Rage' war stories, Obama and Michelle and the kids laughing and clapping hands in excitement, egging Uncle Bill on for another 'tell us how you blew up that building again' yarn...that's how it played out, righto?

What a scream; you people are truly living in schmuck city.

Obama and Aryes...peas in a pod...friends and co workers...

You can live in denial all you want...scoff loudly and throw poop....doesnt change the facts...

Ayres was just a guy who lives in Obama's neghborhood!!!!!!!

So much for your "cogent debating skillz"...

You're just a libtard through and through...an obamaton...

GB Shaw was the epitome of the progressive....a madman who begged science for a humane gas to rid society of it's ills....and you dont even wince when you are directly compared to him...you are proud of it...

Sick and scary...

What did hillery say again?

Oh yeah...."I'm a progressive in the classical sence"

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

here comes the part where you get all snarly and have to take a timeout....lol, I see it comin!...loadin' up the popgun, shooter?

Tell you what, I'm gonna go watch a movie, you can bloviate on here for awhile all by your lonesome. Maybe your buddies will be back to join you later, cavalary to the rescue and all that.

Boy that really rattled your cage didnt it...BUWHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ohh hot chicken man!!!!

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Submitted by McCaskey on Sun, 2010-07-11 13:09.
that I sit around with Pink Slip, Wombat, Sensor, Handbanana, HistoryMike, a few others from SB plotting the elimination of you and your ilk as represented on this site.

All right! When's the next meetin', boys???

If I'm not mistaken you don't belong in this group of think tank...

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

in the upcoming months, I want you to point out SPECIFICALLY where Obama has sided with any philisophical tenant of the 'new Black Panthers', used them as any kind of 'example' of how to diminish or combat the likes of Beck/Tea Party advocates or their followers.

Specific examples where he used their organization, the names of their leaders, as an example of a belief system that all Americans should follow.

Don't give me your usual slap-dash, hyperventalized theories rooted in your private, tunnel-visioned, political viewpoint--I want concrete examples and links to them.

How about "senator" obama using security from the nation of islam for starters...of his preacher of twenty years:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/roughsketch/2008/04/obamas_pastor_reignit...

"As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood".

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.html?_r=2&ref=todays...

Oh and this...from when he was still proud to be part of wrights flock:

Still, Obama is unapologetic in saying he has a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ." As a sign of that relationship, he says, he walked down the aisle of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ in response to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's altar call one Sunday morning about 16 years ago.

The politician could have ended his spiritual tale right there, at the point some people might assume his life changed, when he got "saved," transformed, washed in the blood. But Obama wants to clarify what truly happened.

"It wasn't an epiphany," he says of that public profession of faith. "It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me."

These days, he says, he attends the 11 a.m. Sunday service at Trinity in the Brainerd neighborhood every week -- or at least as many weeks as he is able. His pastor, Wright, has become a close confidant.

So how did he become a churchgoer?

It began in 1985, when he came to Chicago as a $13,000-a-year community organizer, working with a number of African-American churches in the Roseland, West Pullman and Altgeld Gardens neighborhoods that were trying to deal with the devastation caused by shuttered steel plants.

"I started working with both the ministers and the lay people in these churches on issues like creating job-training programs, or after-school programs for youth, or making sure that city services were fairly allocated to underserved communities," he says. "And it was in those places where I think what had been more of an intellectual view of religion deepened.

"I became much more familiar with the ongoing tradition of the historic black church and its importance in the community. And the power of that culture to give people strength in very difficult circumstances, and the power of that church to give people courage against great odds. And it moved me deeply."

Obama says he reads the Bible, though not as regularly as he'd like, now that he's on the campaign trail. But he does find time to pray.

"It's not formal, me getting on my knees," he says. "I think I have an ongoing conversation with God.... I'm constantly asking myself questions about what I'm doing, why I am doing it.

"The biggest challenge, I think, is always maintaining your moral compass."

Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says.

"I always have felt in him this consciousness that, at the end of the day, with all of us, you've got to face God," Pfleger says of Obama. "Faith is key to his life, no question about it. It is central to who he is, and not just in his work in the political field, but as a man, as a black man, as a husband, as a father.... I don't think he could easily divorce his faith from who he is."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article

Face it...Obama sat in wright's pews for 20 years and bathed in the hatred of jews and whites.....only when he HAD TO did he throw wright under the bus...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

try to focus.

Assuming any of this is true, where oh where are the words 'Black Panther Party' (new or good 'ol original) as pertaining to this thread?

That one didn't work out, so we're changing horses mid-stream and back on the 'Muslim' holla and shout, the 'ol Rev. Wright stompfest?

LOL, keep diggin, foolwiley.

yap yap yap...

"Assuming any of this is true"

LMAO....yeah it's all true....it's even from the hallowed liberal New York times to boot...so you cant simply dismiss the source.....you just dont want to believe it...thus the denial...

I also said "for starters"...

I doubt Obama is going to put the new black panthers on the Federal payroll....

But he will do what he needs to do to cover their ass for clear voter intimidation...with plausable deniablity ofcorse....oh that was Holders decision...yeah right...we all know Obama is a micro managment freak....

A Brother needs to stick together against the white devil you know...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Nobody had a 'knife.' The Panther who was asked to leave his 'security' post had a STICK or NIGHTSTICK. Small details (rolls eyes).

According to the frazzled Fox News reporter, nobody claimed they 'couldn't vote' because of the presence of these people.

This evidently occured in the University of Penn. area of Philadelphia. Have you ever been there? I have. It's about 95% black, with the exception of some UP students. Nobody should have been allowed to be subjected to harrasement at a voting location--and according to the video nobody was--but irregardless, the vast majority of whoever voted at this polling place was an Obama supporter and nothing was going to change the numbers as regards to that.

Would one or two tall, athletic-looking, angry-appearing black men wearing berets standing outside YOUR voting location, wherever that may be, change how YOU voted once you were inside at your private voting booth? What--these guys are given printouts of your vote selections to examine or 'approve' before you're allowed to leave to get to your car in the parking lot?

Brass tacks---has there been any credible proof Obama campaign people paid for the presence of these Panthers working 'security' at any voting location anywhere in the country that day?

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

your links are at least two years old and hold no relevancy to anything of substance.

First link--How about "senator" obama using security from the nation of islam for starters...of his preacher of twenty years

Where does it say 'senator' Obama' used nation of Islam security for Wright? Oh, that's right, it doesn't--that's what you said. Love the link's headline---'Could Wright pose trouble for Obama?' (meaning getting elected)--NEWS FLASH--HE GOT ELECTED.

Second link--Muslim countries might be mad at Obama because he father renounced his Muslim heritage and it might be a 'security' issue? You're mad at Obama because Muslim nations might be mad at him?? You think it 'proves' he secretly has prayer rug in Oval Office and he prays every morning facing East? Yawn...

Third link--so bored at this point, I didn't even read it.

agitated about what I am about to say. I started to stay out of this silliness but feel the need to show that this could be a teaching moment for those who want to learn something about blackness.
The Black Panthers have no connection to the Black Liberation Front, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Reverend Wright, President Obama's pastor. He teaches the black liberation theology which is taught in most black churches with any involvement in social justice.
What may be happening is when you see Black they all meld together and they all become one organization. You may mean the Black Liberation Army, which has no connection to Reverend Wright or the Black Liberation Front but does have a slight connection to the Black Panthers as it was started after the Black Panthers organization was demolished by the FBI.
And I agree there are many who would want to start a civil war in America, which would serve no purpose.

You left out the "national black footsoldiers" and the "nation of islam'...

And to be frank...it would serve one purpose......to weed assholes out of the gene pool on both sides....

Just sayin'

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I was attempting to clarify the difference between the Black Panthers, the Black Liberation Front, black liberation theology and the Black Liberation Army which have absolutely no connection other than the majority of the members of each group or theology are black. I was responding to an attempt to link these groups together as one group....sorry if you didn't get it......

I have never heard of the national black footsoldiers but the NOI did not grow out of the Black Panthers, or the Black Liberation Front or any other black movement other than a need for the black man and woman in America to do for self while uplifting black people to their proper place in America.

ALL these are groups made up of black racists who hate whites...

No different than KKK scum....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

There is no mention of the skin heads,The American Nazi Party, The KKK, The John Birch Society, The White Citizens Council, The Hells Angels. It seems like there is a lot of hate on both sides.

Partiers, the Republican Party.....

Punhurts....Obama...his wife.. his paster...his appointee's...his supporters...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

But instead of worrying about what the fringe elements might do, a better strategy is to ridicule them.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

I am amazed anyone can compare Constitutionalists with these racist vermin! Where have any Constitutionalists called for the murder of "nigger babies" or "dirty nigger whores"?

What I find interesting about Constitutionlist is that it appears they think the Constitution only applies to people of European decent. Except for Native Americans, we are all guests in this country.

Such black fools fulfill many stereotypes about black people. If they hate people of white color so much, then let them return to Africa where they belong; let them stop wearing clothes made possible by white inventions and using electricity and running water and driving cars or taking buses or listening to the radio or television, etc. Their dark hearts and mindsets are already primitive, so let them stop being such hypocrites and go all the way and live in huts and wear grass skirts and fight other black African tribes like they have gangs here. Good riddance!

The Curse of Jeremiah Wrights

Diversity Demands: Segregate Now!

Black to Africa: Facing the Crisis in Black America

first you will need to establish for me what a "nigger baby" or a "dirty nigger whore" is.

They both are the target of planned parenthood Punhurts...look up margaret sanger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger

The sad Ironic truth is that liberals kill more black babies than the KKK could ever dream of...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I don't have to look up Margaret Sanger, I have known about her plan for at least 40 years. I still don't know what a "nigger baby or a "dirty nigger whore" is other than an epithet used in the same connotation as a "cracker baby." But I will close my comments on the Black Panthers v the Black Liberation Front and black liberation theology.

I am proud to be associated with the likes of, Obama, his wife, his paster(pastor), his appointee's (appointees) his supporters............

Sure you are proud of it....that's because you are an unabashed Black racist.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

You two are so blinded by your progressive views that you will ignore any truth that disseminates your beliefs, how can you learn anything if you fail to accept the truth. Like I said, go research Van Jones, George Soros, Bill Ayers and some of the others that surround Obama. But then again you refuse to see the truth so you will never be able to come to an enlightened position. Carry on, just remember you will suffer the consequences of Obama's Hope and Change as well, and it won't be the Change you Hoped for.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

'New Black Panthers, Obama's new civilian police force.'

And nothing has been offered up to substantiate that. You throw sludge on the walls to see how much sticks.

'Like I said, go research Van Jones, George Soros, Bill Ayers and some of the others that surround Obama'

Surround as in present tense? You talk as if these people are currently meeting with him daily in the Oval Office to discuss some sort of 'strategy."..to do what??? Kill off 'whitey"? Place all the 'tea-partiers' under house arrest? Have the IRS do audits on everyone who didn't vote for him two years ago? How many types of 'bogeyman' scenarios can you possibly can up with?

It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. Come to think of it, it's still funny...

Of course you won't admit there are any radicals that surround obama. Here is an extreme radical, Jeff Jones, founder of the Weathermen and current member of Apollo Alliance. The Apollo Alliance is a project staffed by radicals who wrote the stimulus bill. Why do you think the stimulus bill funded all the phoney green jobs programs?

I asked YOU to lay out your case.
- You wield the term "progressives" like a shotgun, use it to spray out whatever you don't like. Progressives aren't communists - simple as that. Just as conservatives aren't fascists. Some may be, but as a whole they are not interchangeable. Wanting them to be so you don't have to actually argue points does not make them so.
- How have my statements above represented me "blinded by my progressive views". Mostly, I just asked YOU to explain your claims, which if you weren't blinded by your own narrow vision you should be able to do coherently. If, once we actually engaged in reasoned debate, my points fell outside what you consider rational, THEN you could claim that I am blinded. And, by the way, I am not actually a progressive by progressives' standards. I DID vote for reagan and bush the elder.
- What is this truth that you speak of. You are using innuendo and suggestion, not reasoned argumentation. So I'm happy to debate the issue, but you need to present the issue to debate instead of just naming names (which many of us are familiar with) and saying " look these people up".

I'm not going to do all your homework for you. I mentioned some names that surround Obama, go research them. As I said in an earlier post, it won't make a difference what you find, you will continue to discredit it. There has been plenty of reasonable issues and layed out facts with links that have been provided to you in other responses, but you still ignore them. Here's a real good piece of advice, don't just look at the liberal/progressive side, look at all sides of the political field, and then, if you stay with the side you currenly abide by, then so be it. Lets take economics for instance, its real simple let people keep more of their money and they will fuel the economy. You can't raise taxes, throw millions of stimuls money into the economy and say that will work, it hasn't worked. Anybody that has even a small working knowledge of economics can understand that. Now since you are head over heels for that Hope and Change, explain to me how Obama's economic plan is or has worked.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

For those who don't know, WOMBAT is an acronym.
DTOM just called out McSissy and WOMBAT as the
Waste
Of
Money
Breath
And
Time

A very appropriate description of the Democratic Party and Obama apologists and butt smoocher that McSissy and Wombat are.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

you heading into third or fourth grade in August?

in lieu of something real, intelligent or even witty.... Maybe it's worth going on the refrigerator?

Translation: he has nothing of real substance, so he's going to continue to make blanket characterizations of Democrats and anyone/anything on the left side of the political spectrum as Communists, Marxists, anti-Americans, Muslim-lovers, traitors, and the like.

It's Official: Obama is a Socialist

"Obama's a socialist. That's the view of 55% of American voters, according to a new poll. And this isn't coming from a Republican pollster."

"It comes from Democracy Corps, a polling group started by life-long Democratic operative James Carville and his partner Stan Greenberg. When the group asked 1,000 voters in mid-June how well the term "socialist" fits President Obama, 55% said "well" or "very well."

"This must scare the hell of the elites in the media and academe, who think such talk is just the province of Glenn Beck, not the majority of voters. But, yes, and yes again. It is Glenn Beck and it is the American people who think that. And when you look at the evidence, it's hard to dispute."

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/government/official-...

It's Official: Obama is a Socialist

"Obama's a socialist. That's the view of 55% of American voters, according to a new poll. And this isn't coming from a Republican pollster."

"It comes from Democracy Corps, a polling group started by life-long Democratic operative James Carville and his partner Stan Greenberg. When the group asked 1,000 voters in mid-June how well the term "socialist" fits President Obama, 55% said "well" or "very well."

"This must scare the hell of the elites in the media and academe, who think such talk is just the province of Glenn Beck, not the majority of voters. But, yes, and yes again. It is Glenn Beck and it is the American people who think that. And when you look at the evidence, it's hard to dispute."

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/government/official-...

CRICKETS, Marxist crickets! :)

Here's the issue with you and Wombat and the likes of, all you do is try to pin someone down or bait them into a blanket statement that doesn't pertain to everyone. Of course everyone on the left is not "Communists, Marxists, anti-Americans, Muslim-lovers, traitors, and the like". There is plenty of past post information of substance for you to look at. Most of you liberal/progressives reiterate the same sentiments, use the same argument, show me where, you can’t prove that. Its easily accessible you just chose to ignore it. Try to find some source of integrity and not those with a political agenda to get the answers you ask for.
I suppose there is no proof that the Obama Administration is not trying to take control of our economy, health, banking, housing, or automobile industries right?
Just remember you will suffer like the rest of us, keep ignoring the truth if you want to. But then again when you’re indoctrinated with the new progressive Hope and Change view it’s hard to see any other option. What made your life so bad 18 months ago that you needed to buy into this new Hope and Change?

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

blanket statements are saying there are communists and former terrorists (Weatherman) running rampant throughout this administration in positions of power and influence.

You clowns have been on this thread, what?...a week or more?.... spewing such nonsense.

I believe so far we've come up with the vaunted Jeff Jones, a 'member' of the Apollo something-or-other who isn't on any key boards or staffing positions, Van Jones, and a whole lotta nothin' after that.

Look, you've made the accusations. Every time you're asked for specifics, all that's forthcoming is regurgatated generalized nonsense found on some crackpot right-wing website, Fox News, el Rushbo, and the like.

Too funny on the 'Socialist' poll, by the way. Take some advice--poll numbers come and go. Many people are not happy with Obama--even many liberals are not happy with him, obviously for far different reasons that you are.

But the big question for right-wingers: WHO YOU GOT that's the anti-Obama, that represents not the right-wing fringe, but the majority of the 53% who voted for Obama 18 months ago.

Cause when you ask this question--
'What made your life so bad 18 months ago that you needed to buy into this new Hope and Change?'...you're not just asking people you believe are 'Socialists' and 'Communists'...you talking about the vast majority of the people who voted in 2008. They didn't vote for your guy then, and they're not going to next time, either, because your particular brand isn't what this country is about or what it's voters are going to be buying.

Wow, what a disconnect. I said blanket statement meaning all or everyone does not fall under that perception. I'm not a Republican/Democrat. I'm an independent that leans toward the beliefs of the Constitution. YOU SAID" I believe so far we've come up with the vaunted Jeff Jones, a 'member' of the Apollo something-or-other who isn't on any key boards or staffing positions, Van Jones, and a whole lotta nothin' after that". Van Jones was appointed by Obama he took him out of the public eye, why, if there was no truth to what was said about him. Obviously you don't pay attention to the news, Jones and others have publicly admitted they are Socialists and have a Socialists agenda. I have gave you specifics as well as others, you are stuck brother, I was asking YOU what made your life so bad 18 months ago for you to vote for Obama? You are good at deflecting the truth and questions that pin you down. Oh ! and most of the younger voting people that voted for Obama have lost their luster for him and have moved on to Justin Beaver.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

like about ten thousand political appointees from various administrations from every political viewpoint in the last 100 years who were deemed damaged goods and a political liability, Jones had to go. It occasionally happens in conservative administrations also, you might be aware.

I realize the Jones 'brothers' are your your big lifeline to the Obama administration 'socialist' argument, but again, here we go:

'Obviously you don't pay attention to the news, Jones and others have publicly admitted they are Socialists and have a Socialists agenda'

'Others'. What 'others'?

In point of fact, as many liberals who voted for Obama have come to discover---much to their chagrin and distaste--if anything he's far too cozy with Wall St. and big-banking operations:

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/42475

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/04/21/92637/goldmans-connections-to-whit...

Quite the 'socialist'...having curiously-strong ties to leading global investment banking and securities firms largely responsible for the 2008 financial collapse.

In my opinion, the entire Obama 'socialist' attack is driven by right-wing political operatives and their handy tools on Fox and the blogosphere, knowing full-well that if he's attacked by both sides of the political spectrum there's no way his approval numbers can go anywhere but down.

Van Jones is a self described communist, McCommie.

'Others'. What 'others'?
Perfect point if you must say so yourself. What others, you are lost man really lost.
As for the 2008 financial crisis, Barney Frank and what’s his name Dodd the crook that got the hell out of dodge, or said he's not running for another term, they had the biggest part in the crisis.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

McCaskey says ,(knowing full-well that if he's attacked by both sides of the political spectrum his approval numbers can go anywhere but down. Our you saying progressives are attacking Obama, Why? How? What proof do you have? Your just slinging mud and hope something sticks.
But wait maybe not, it might be the entire Obama 'socialist' attack is driven by right-wing political operatives and their handy tools on Fox and the blogosphere) Right wing political operatives, does that include any black people?

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Google 'liberal criticism of Obama' and come up with many examples.

Here is one:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/06/20-0

Maybe there is hope for you after all. At least some honest acknowledgement on your part brings me hope.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

That is a British blog you silly dork. Trying to pull the rug over our eyes aye, you wolf in sheeps clothing; just like your master bo aren't you?

Now give us some REAL examples of progressives bashing BO!

Can you hear the "progressive" crickets?

it should be sometime in November.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/07/13/mark-halperin-on-newt-gingrich-f...
http://www.newt.org/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100712/ap_on_el_pr/us_gingrich2012

A REAL conservative. Not a RINO who has slept with Democraps so long he caught a case of Liberalism like John McCain.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

These so called new Black Panthers are they lynching and burning people at the stake?

I wonder if anyone in American history has lynched and burned other races just for recreation.

yep...white democrats from the south...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

http://apolloalliance.org/about/

Well, he's not a board-member of the Apollo Alliance:

http://apolloalliance.org/about/board/

He's not a staff member of the Apollo Alliance:

http://apolloalliance.org/about/staff/

He's just a 'member'...kind like someone might a YMCA 'member' or a library 'member' or a 'member' of grandma's knitting circle or my neighbor's book club....

OK, this is indeed extremely disturbing information...I admit, lol....

Doesn't it concern you that a radical terrorist helped write the stimulus bill?

have ANY IDEA whatsoever whether Jeff Jones had ANY imput, direct or otherwise, into writing the stimulus bill.

He's not a board or staff member of this--in your eyes---extremeist organization. How exactly did he 'help write' the bill?

It is all over the internet you koolaid drinker. Even Wikipedia. You must be an extreme Marxist, in my opinion.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Da7&rls=org.mozil...

Wiki page for Apollo:

Where do you see Jeff Jones' name under 'founders'?

Organization
Founders
The founding board members of the Apollo Alliance are:

United States Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA).
Leo Gerard, International President of the United Steelworkers.
United States Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL).
Carl Pope, Executive Director of the Sierra Club.
Chairman
The Alliance's current Chair is former California State Treasurer Phil Angelides, who is currently the Chair of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission.

National Steering Committee
Ruben Aronin, Global Green USA
Andrew Beebe, Energy Innovations
Robert L. Borosage, Institute for America's Future
Dan Carol, CTSG, Young Apollo
Maggie Fox, Sierra Club
Bracken Hendricks, Apollo Alliance
Van Jones, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
Mindy Lubber, Ceres
Mark Ritchie, Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy
Joel Rogers, Center on Wisconsin Strategy (COWS)
Marco Trbovich, United Steelworkers of America (USWA)

The wiki page for Jeff Jones says he is a member of Apollo.

I see your link to SODAHEAD.COM says he's a founder, though....that must be gospel if SODAHEAD says so.

The NY Post link claims Jones is 'director of the NY affilitate', not a national founder, not a national board member, not a national staff member...by all means, I'm certain he 'wrote' the stimulus bill language.

Read my post below you communist dork. By the way, the self avowed communist, Van Jones is on the national steering committee, as are many other communists. hahaha, you silly fool!

National Steering Committee
Van Jones, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights

I said jeff jones was a founder of the weather under ground you slimy piece of shit, along with bill ayers.

Your claim that the Apollo website wouldn't dare refer to Jeff Jones is delusional.

Either he is or he isn't.

Lol, here we go again:

By the way, the self avowed communist, Van Jones is on the national steering committee, as are many other communists.

Tell you what, I'll even give you Van Jones (he's not, but just for giggles). Name the rest of the communists, Tailgunner Joe.

If you won't even admit that van jones is a self avowed communist you really are a lost soul. Hahaha. Why do you think that egghead bo fired him? hahaha! you silly fool. :)

This is getting good mac, I want to know, are you a black panther? They are fine and decent human beings, I could see you being one of them. :)

'egghead bo '

Explain. Me and my Panthers want to know precisely what you meant.

Bo Schembechler, perhaps? Bo Jackson, maybe? Bo Didley, by chance? How about Bo Derek?

You're no '10', Not Again.

Lemme guess...you misspelled the word you actually wanted to type....right, Sodahead???

CRICKETS

From Not Again: I want to know, are you a black panther?

Nope. He's a member of the Gray Panthers.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

Yep, and I'm gonna standin' watch workin' 'security' in front of voting areas wearin' my intimidating golf visor, 'old person' shades, armed with my sharp-edged AARP card...it's kinda like my 'shiv'...conservatives beware...

Ahh yes, it is finally coming together. Van Jones, National Director of Apollo Alliance and self avowed communist.

Van Jones, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights - ahh there is the connection. - Oakland!!

The Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, founded by jones was involved in the riots in Oakland the other day. hahahaha. But you won't see van jones on the video, because he has dropped the radical pose, in order to achieve the radical end! ;)

http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/07/08/leftist-groups-plan-a-riot-as-...

Come on--humor me. What's an egghead bo??

Checkmate comrade. Night night. :)

You're damn right checkmate...,Boo

for the names of the rest of the communists. They're all over the Obama administration, right?....'many other communists'...you did type that, right?

Ok McCommie, here is everything you ever wanted to know about communist in the obama administration, as if you didn't already know. Now read it and stop your whinning.
http://www.commieblaster.com/

Best laugh I've had in months.

So many good ones..hard to pick the best!

Perhaps Obama, the former KGB agent? No, wait!!!.....Communist Christmas:

'Chairman Mao, a Well-Known Transvestite and "Obama's Face on Mount Rushmore" Ornaments Hung on the White House Christmas Tree in 2009'

How about:

'Issa Wants Answers on White House’s Ties to Socialist Google'

'Obama Worked for the CIA in Pakistan and Afghanistan. His Dozens of Social Security Numbers were used for Money-Laundering during a Time He Claimed to be at Columbia University (but wasn't). See the Proof. More.'

Hold it, hold it! Commieblaster.com is on to something!!!........''IF YOU THINK WE'RE NUTS, CLICK THESE LINKS! YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.' Oh, r---e---a---l---l---y???

Ah, too many to chose from....

Is this your 'source' material, Boo??

Seriously, stay off the internet, your brain cells---if you have any still working---will thank you.

Another Communist Flushed From Obama Administration
Good little leftist water-carriers that they are, the Washington Post manages to explain Anita Dunn's departure as Obama's communications director without once mentioning Chairman Mao.

This is about as close as the Posties come to conceding that controversy marked Dunn's tenure:

A source inside the White House, who was not authorized to speak about strategy meetings, said at the time that Dunn went out front against Fox first and foremost because it was her job, but also because it potentially gave the administration the opportunity to distance itself from the flap with the Roger Ailes-led news channel once she leaves the communications job.
No mention, of course, of this video:

Charles Olgeltree is strongly linked to the obama's and the panthers. Also, bo got the "they acted stupidly" comment from ogletree. Remember cambridge, when obama admitted he didn't have the facts before he made that stupid comment?

http://raymondpronk.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/barack-obamas-circle-of-inf...

It is said that Olgeltree instructed bo to order the worst ag in our history to take care of the black panther case.

Don't be silly, do you really think the apollo alliance would be stupid enough to name jeff jones a leader of the organization on the Apollo alliance web site? Let me ask you an easy question maccaskey. Do you think jeff jones is a radical terrorist?

You admitted his buddy and bo associate bill Ayers is.

Be honest mac

McCaskey has proven himself to be an Obama apologist and Democratic ass-kisser.

He will follow his leaders over the cliff just like the mindless lemmings who voted for the socialist

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

You know, the ones with the big, scary-looking black guys with funny hats standing out by the polling stations forcing you to vote a certain way with their...ummm....'knives'....

The only reason I bother making fun of you is because it is so easy.

Now shut the hell up and go do what your lord and master, Obama and your owner, George Soros tell you to do. They paid for you and you are nothing but a tool in their belts.

QUICK, MCCASKEY, THE CHOOSEN ONE HAS HIT A 60% DISAPPROVAL RATING TODAY! Your owners in the DNC demand that you wipe Barry Soteros ass again. Pucker up and give Barry a big wet one. Obama needs you to apologize for him again! And we know we can count on you to suck up to your master.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/12/AR201007...

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

can be a funny thing, depending which way the wind blows...

Quick, look--here's one where a mighty 5.7 outta 10 Americans think Capitalism is currently such a great concept...

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-13/-capitalism-not-so-sacred-to...

I can state emphatically this is 'proof' the bedrock of the American economic system is going down, certain to be replaced with communism....

Submitted by McCaskey on Wed, 2010-07-14 12:28.
"I can state emphatically this is 'proof' the bedrock of the American economic system is going down, certain to be replaced with communism...."

Your communist friends are trying their damdest, take a look, McCommie :)
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.4190/pub_detail.asp

What has happened to Swampbubbles? Where did it go. Eccept for a few poster's on this sight, I don't recognize the website called "swampbubbles" that was here just a few months ago.
I'm just sayin'

How is that "hope and change" working for you msdj? more like slash and burn! Hahaha. November is not far away.

I don't regret voting for Obama, As an AA I was and I am still proud of President Barack Obama. If and when I have great-grandchildren I want to be able to tell them that I VOTED for the First Black President. All of my grandchildren know that I did and the one that was old enough Voted for him too. I may not be happy with everything but I wasn't happy about a whole lot of SHIGGADY that your beloved Republicans did for OUR country [Democrats aren't all that they should be either.] starting with Dwight Eisenhower. You see I was born when we African Americans were still "Colored" But I am still here and thankful for it. "We ain't all that we should be but thank God we ain't what we used to be." I think that GWB was the worst president that we ever had including Jimmy Carter. He frittered all of the surplus that we had and started Two wars for nothing, killing up and maiming our young people in Afghanstan and Iraq for what. Don't give me that "for our freedom" shiggady because I don't beleive it. This is all for the rich and their Corporations. You do know that don't you? Or are you still that naive. There is something really sick going on in this country { and this website} right now and I think that it is all about the President. Every thing that happens, even the tornadoes and hurricaines are his fault. You White people need to get a grip, from what I have read on this site the last few weeks I think that some of you need medication.Maybe you should get out more and mingle with your friends and relatives. Try Love, Things could be worse. I think that I will stop right there. You can respond and site all kinds of stats and horse hockey but I won't respond. I don't see the point, this site has run aground.

What is "shiggady"? This is a new one for me.

From MissDeeJay: I think that GWB was the worst president that we ever had including Jimmy Carter.

Who are you trying to kid, me or you? King George II made Jimmy Carter look like a genius. Shoot, I'd suffer through three terms of President Carter before I'd go one single term with King George II.

You White people...

You mean us old, conservative, Church going bourgeois white folks who got no soul? We crackers? Pardon me while I send my man out for a little more julep. Now then, carry on... you have this cracker's full and undivided attention.

...I won't respond. I don't see the point, this site has run aground.

What was your first clue? The decided list to starboard, the midnight lifeboat drill or was it the iceberg affixed to the side of the ship?

It's likely that you and I are around the same age. Do you see any similarities between our current military situation and the Vietnam war? How about military spending? How much do you think is made by various suppliers to the US military? Where do you think the profit margin is on hard goods sold to the military? Yes, it's about money. If it weren't, the U.S. would have simply picked a few favorites in the Middle East and furnished them with military supplies and air support along with a selective blockade in the Med., figuring to get payback in the form of oil.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

missdejay, are you a proponent of liberation theology?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology

Submitted by missdeejay "There is something really sick going on in this country { and this website} right now and I think that it is all about the President. Every thing that happens, even the tornadoes and hurricaines are his fault."

Actually, hurricane Katrina was W's fault. See here for proof
http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/983438-its-a... and here is the icing on the cake. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080809090255AAkfecW

Also other natural disasters such as earthquakes are caused by women with short skits and no underwear. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5835086.cms

According to Danny Glover "Global Warming" also causes earthquakes. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/15/danny-glover-haiti-earthq_n_425...

This is all for the rich and their Corporations. Do you think Obama, Kennedy, and the likes are not rich, you better go check on Obama's investments into those white rich corporations.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

"What has happened to Swampbubbles? Where did it go. Eccept for a few poster's on this sight, I don't recognize the website called "swampbubbles" that was here just a few months ago.
I'm just sayin'"

Everyone here is free to post whatever they want.....so get off yer butt and post something...it's still a free internet...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Here's your sign:

"You White people"

*sigh*

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

It seems like whomever is pulling the strings has got enough of us confused enough so we will continue to keep fighting with each other and not pay attention what they are really doing.

Exactly!!!! George Soros! The puppet master. You have helped me to regain my focus. Thanks!!!

Joe

The only confusion is that progressivism and their lies are blinding you with confusion. Don't follow them over the cliff.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Hello Swampbubbles;

I had responded to all of you and lost everthing while returning from the definition of "liberation theology".

I don't have time to do it now but maybe later, but I enjoyed reading all of your posts.

Have a good day
mdj

Submitted by missdeejay "You can respond and site all kinds of stats and horse hockey but I won't respond."

You Lie! :)

Communism benefits the oppressed. Stop oppressing people and communism, won't have a chance.

The socialist model does not take human nature into account which is why it has and will fail everywhere it has been tried.

Human nature is to try and to the minimum for the maximum result.

The Socialist model rewards lazyness and punishes hard work.

If you work hard to get ahead, your rewards will be taken away and given to someone whos only experience is turning oxygen into carbon-dioxide.

Why work when you get the same benifits by being lazy?

By it's nature, socialism creates poverty.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Well said libs

Communism benefits the oppressed? Are you on another friging plant. Russia did well with it right? All those oppressed people that had to stand in lines for portions benefited. All those poor oppressed people that died under socialism/communism that benefited them right. Hope and Change IS ABOUT CONTROL OF THE MASSES. You have been duked my boy, wake up..... you don't have much time left.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Russia's government in my opinion wasn't Communist. They may have called themselves that, but Russia was National Socialism as its best. A small group of people ran everything, ate caviar behind closed door, while the rest of the population played their part as worker bees. That's called National Socialism. What Russia had in place was not Karl Marx's dream. Analyze Stalin and Hitler. What they had going wasn't much different. Look at China, today. It's a National Socialist government, not Communist. Read the attached link and you will see the similarities.

http://www.answers.com/topic/national-socialism

The fraud and foreigner, the con man from Kenya, the bastard from Africa, Obama/Soetoro/Obama has created a climate of hatred and hostility against people of white color. Toledo now has ANOTHER victim of black on white violence. A loser black stole the life of an educated white. When will we demand primitive blacks return to Africa where they belong?

Recently released felon accused of stabbing UT student

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