Obama gives finger to Tornado victims...

FEMA turns down OH federal assistance request for June 6 tornadoes
Posted: Jun 24, 2010 3:00 PM PDT
Updated: Jun 24, 2010 4:39 PM PDT
(WTOL) - FEMA has turned down the disaster declaration for the State of Ohio following three tornadoes on June 5 and 6.

That means there will be no federal funding for residents and for clean-up efforts after the tornadoes struck Fulton, Ottawa and Wood Counties.

Read the statement released by Governor Strickland on the rejection of federal funding.

U.S. Representative Bob Latta says his office received a copy of a letter to Governor Strickland Thursday afternoon.

In a phone interview with News 11, Latta said, "I'm pretty much shocked. I've been to the communities. It was the worst disaster I've ever seen."

Latta said the letter had just arrived in his office and he read a portion of it that stated:

The damage is not of severity and magnitude as to be beyond the capabilities of the state, affected local governments and voluntary agencies.

The rejection of the aid can be appealed by Governor Strickland within 30 days. Latta says he will send a letter to Strickland urging him to appeal. Latta will also send a letter to FEMA.

Lastly, he said in the phone interview that northwest Ohioans are not getting help they deserve. He pointed out millions of dollars in taxpayer money that went to help Haiti after a major earthquake. Latta says the tornado victims are tax payers, and they're not getting help from their government at the federal level.

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=12705776

Just more proof that when you really need help....a democrat is just a democrat...

Feckless wonders strickland, kaptur, obama...

I guess Obama really does hate white people...

.

Your rating: None Average: 5 (2 votes)

George W. Bush

Where is Marcy when you need her?

Temperance Tom:

1. The storm damage occurred in Republican Bob Latta's district (Ohio-5) not Marcy Kaptur's district (Ohio-9).

Zeitgeist:

1. Let me get this straight: are you actually calling for more government spending? Are you saying the federal government should bail out people who were underinsured or who had no insurance on property damaged by the storm? If so, that must be part of a wholesale shift in your ideology, perhaps beginning with your stated desire to see OSHA and union apprentice programs prevent small business owners from repairing their own equipment in their facilities.

2. Do you really believe that every decision made by the federal government passes across the president's desk? I know that you are an intelligent person, but your political vendetta seems to be blinding you. Right now the decision went only as far as FEMA Region V, which covers six Upper Midwest states, although FEMA director W. Craig Fugate did send a personal reply to Strickland on FEMA letterhead.

Here is a link to the bureaucrat-speak DAP-1001 Disaster Assistance Policy. Fugate indicated that the agency's decision was based on the following: "It has been determined that the damage was not of such severity and magnitude as to be beyond the capabilities of the state, affected local governments, and voluntary agencies." Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but they can always appeal it.

3. It is interesting that you focused on the Dems (Strickland, Kaptur, Obama) but ignored the Republican representative for that district, Bob Latta, the area's Republican state House rep Randy Gardner, and the area's state Senator Mark Wagoner. Do they get a pass because of their party affiliation?

get in the way of dumb, dumber and dumbest...

Damn mike...you have to be the most ignorant PHD I';ve ever run accross...

Strickland ASKED OBAMA PERSONALLY to override FEMA...which he CAN DO...

http://www.wtol.com/global/Category.asp?C=151146&clipId=&topVideoCatNo=1...

Stricklands statement comes at 2:22 when he is talking to MARCY...

Obama hates white people...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Oh BTW...thanks for reminding me that you dont know jack shit about electricity or OSHA regs...what a tool..

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

So now you are advocating that politicans should pressure each other and disregard the established policy and administrative mechanisms whenever they want? Or are you saying that Obama should violate the law in this one case and overturn the FEMA decisions?

Strickland's appeal to Obama was just for the photo op, and he would have been just as successful if he appealed to Bono Vox or Kevin Costner as far as FEMA goes. Strickland can make all the TV pitches he wants (same for Kaptur or Latta) but at the end of the day the claim goes up the bureaucratic maze just like everyone else's does.

Now, does politics sometimes work its way into government decision making? Of course. However, you have an awful lot of work to do to prove your "Obama hates de whiteys" argument. If that were the case, explain why FEMA Region V approved disaster relief for flooding victims in upper Minnesota, which the last time I checked was about as white as America gets AND is a state with a Republican governor?

I'm saying that THOSE WHO PAY FEDERAL TAXES desverve more help than foreigners in Hiati who never paid a dime of federal taxes...

Obama has every right as the president to direct FEMA to make those payments....nothing in the law prevents that....just like he could waive the Jones act for Gulf assistance...yet he doesnt..

Your head is so far up your own ass that you've somehow twisted complaints about Govt overspending on bullshit programs to equate to advocating the denial of federal aid to americans hit by disaster...

Shame on you for also giving the finger to people ravaged by the tornados by DEFENDING the denial of federal assistance......

Notice it ISNT Marcy's disctrict but she had no problem trotting out there for a photo op....and at least you inadvertantly admit strickland was only there for a photo-op as well...

You are such a syncophant that you instantly rally around the obama flag and circle the wagons.....even when something as wrong as this is SELF EVIDENT.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

LOL

For the record, I donated food and money to the tornado victims, plus I ran a PSA on my blog directing people to the Red Cross and ISOH, so you can have a great big "bite me" on the "giving the finger" comment, Zeitgeist.

I can see you are starting to go off the deep end (plus I have work to do), so I'll let you off the hook and not make you admit you favor government bailouts for the uninsured and underinsured. I do have to point out that if you substituted "Americans without medical insurance" for "tornado victims" above, you would sound just like a liberal Democrat.

Just sayin'...

(removing double post)

Please remove double post.

Good for you...

I took a couple of truck loads of stuff and donated some time for clean up...

BTW...you'll note below that strickland now calls the FEMA ruling WRONG and will mount an appeal due to Latta's urging and I'm sure a boat load of angry phone calls from the public this morning...

Marcy is AWOL ofcorse...

So I'm left to wonder...will you flip flop if Obama overrides FEMA and support it...or will you hold the line that this is somehow a violation of the law and condemn Obama...

"Or are you saying that Obama should violate the law in this one case and overturn the FEMA decisions?"

Hrm...gee...that's a toughy...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

A few thoughts:

1. My purpose in joining the conversation on this thread was to point out the ideological inconsistency of supposed fiscal conservatives who demand federal government help for events like the tornadoes and Gulf Coast oil spills. You frequently rail against the federal government, but all of a sudden you sound like Max Baucus shilling for health care when you demand government help for the victims of the recent tornadoes.

2. At no time until now did I weigh in with my opinion, and I am hardly an Obamaphile, so enough with the "sycophant" silliness. I divide my politics into the theoretical and the practical: in my theoretical ideology, people act responsibly and purchase the necessary insurance to protect their property. For example, I dislike seeing tax dollars go to bail out folks who build in flood zones and do not carry flood insurance, or folks who skimp out with the lowest possible homeowners coverage and then holler for help when disaster finally strikes, or people who drop insurance altogether once their mortgage is paid off, or (the worst one) having to pay increased auto premiums when idiots drive with no coverage. Then there are the practical politics: the folks in Lake Township and other affected areas expect the government to step in and help them because the feds do this over and over again. Go for it, folks; everyone else is doing so. I can rail all day about personal responsibility, but at the end of that day there are going to be millions of people who do not properly insure themselves. Moreover, politicans (as you noted) fall all over themselves to look concerned and helpful, because these are important voters who might one day influence 50 other people: "Oh, Marcy/Bob/Ted came right to my house and cried on my shoulder....they really care!!" If Obama jumps in and pressures the FEMA bureaucracy, I will be consistent in my views: I will shake my head at government bailing out the underinsured and uninsured property owners, but at the same time I will shake my head and recognize there isn't a g**damned thing I can do about it.

3. My biggest annoyance are these sorts of "Obama gives the finger to tornado victims" or "Obama hates white people" reactions, as if all Obama thinks about is Millbury, Ohio. The fact is that almost every day in this country there is tragedy on par with the horror of Millbury, and even if Obama was aware of every tragedy (assuming his aides briefed him on every death or storm) he would spend 24 hours a day doing nothing but processing FEMA claims if your scenario is to be believed. FEMA is fricking huge, dude: 6,500 employees, 11 regional branches, and millions of forms getting shuffled every year. While I am sad for those who suffered in the deadly storms in NWO, the fact is that this is a relatively small and insignificant disaster in comparison with most of the other FEMA claims. Every major snowstorm the affected state governors line up and stick their hands in the trough, and the same is true for every rain that causes flooding or every tornado that causes a few deaths.

4. You have really been drinking some Latta Kool-Aid if you think Strickland needed Latta to prod him. This is a gubernatorial election year, pal, and Strickland's nose is just a-sniffing for tragedies like this to get some serious photo op and sound bite time (yes, I am sure he feels downright awful at the tragedies, but be real: he's a frigging politician). Methinks your partisanship (or at least anti-Dem hatred) is causing confusion.

5. One more point: I do not belong to any political party, and the last party that I belonged to was the GOP. I really do not care which bunch of lying thieves is in power, and it probably serves the country well to see the majority party booted every 6-8 years to flush out the creeping corruption and pocket-lining. I am more interested in smart policy than being a blind adherent to a political ideology: I will take a pragmatic policy that efficiently accomplishes the desired goal any day over some hollow ideological diatribes and chest-thumping by pols who want nothing more than for me to shut up and pay up. I have a few ideological touchstones that are consistent (pro-Second Amendment, anti-waste, anti-stupid, pro-individual freedom, anti-police state, anti-drug war) but for the most part I undertsand that I live on a planet with over 6 billion other people, and even in my own country people are not going to see eye-to-eye on many issues, so being a slave to ideology is often counterproductive to efficiently fixing any given problem. Certainly most of the thousands of FEMA employees would not be needed if people really prepared for emergencies, but again: I do not live in such a world.

I can't speak for all "supposed fiscal conservatives" but let me explain why the educated know the failures in the Gulf of Mexico regarding the Oil Spill are BARAK OBAMAS

OBAMA FAILURE #1
According to the LAW that Bill Clinton signed in 1994, the Administration is first responder in case of an oil spill. In 2010, that would be the Obama administration.
Read it for yourself. The "National Oil and Hazardous Substances pollution Contingency Plan" of 1994 signed into law by Democrat Bubba Clinton and IGNORED by Barry Obama
http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/lawsregs/ncpover.htm

OBAMA FAILURE #2
Obama himself said "The American people should know that from the moment this disaster began, the federal government has been in charge of the response effort. Make no mistake: BP is operating at our direction.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/27/politics/main6524264.shtml
So Barak Obama HIMSELF admits "that from the moment this disaster began, the federal government has been in charge" of failed contaiment attempt after failed containment attempt after failed attempt....

Need more examples of failed government policies and responses that lay at the Feet of the little male child in the White House?

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

fucking WOW...WTF does "personal responsibilty "have to do with getting hit by a tornado????

I'll take the rest of the points tomorrow but that is one fucked up opinion there bud...

Just WOW...the tornado victims have no one to blame but themselves?...a child died you fuckhead....and another child lost her entire family and was orphaned and you are arguing semantics of "personal responsiblity"...

yes....you are a fucking libtard...doesnt matter what party you think you belong to..

You are a piece of human filth all dressed up and pretending to be civilised....

I have more respect for a crack whore than you after reading that shit...

I've learned on thing in my life...Karma is a vicious bitch....and you got some comming...wish I could be there to see it...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I have wasted waaaaaay too much time on you. I tried to engage in a civil and even-handed conversation, but no: all you want to do is act like a fool. Again, my "personal responsibility" comment is related to insurance, not dead children, you twit. FEMA is not going to bring back to life the dead folks in the torndao, and all they are going to do is throw money at the situation. Do you think the people who lost loved ones are somehow going to feel better because they receive a check for $20,000 to fix a f**king roof or reimbursement check of $1,500 for staying at a hotel?

But you are either just here for the chain-yanking, or I made the mistake of assuming you were intelligent and capable of reading and engaging in ratioinal discussion. Either way, my mistake, and have fun with your miserable tirades.

this assclown and his crew of like-minded bags of wind have become the 'face' of this site. It's an unregulated free-for-all of binge hate-postings directed toward anyone, politician or poster, two centimeters to the left of Ronald Reagan.

Do you ever learn anything on here? Come away with knowledge gained, something positive that was worth your time and energy?

No, no and no.

You have a point here, when you stated "It's an unregulated free-for-all of binge hate-postings" this shows how divided we are, here and as a nation. This is why we will all fall.

I have also notced how our own posts can be turned around and used against us. That goes for all of us.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

And November is starting to look worse and worse for the Dems.

Hey Zeit, remember when they were on here declaring that when they passed a Healthcare takeover they would PICK UP 5 seats. HA HA HA.

MikeyA

Yeah nancy is already pleading for donations to fend off the upcomming GOP investigations after the midtrems...

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/105013-pelosi-asks-for-...

I can see November from my house....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Ottawa Co. is Marcy's district, history Mike. Remember how show ran over here and looked at the damage in HER DISTRICT for her photo ops??

Review your OH9 map buddy.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.-Ben Franklin

LMAO...I didnt bother to look...but you are correct....it IS marcy's district..

http://www.kaptur.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14...

PHD EPIC FAIL!

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

The vast majority of the tornado victims were all around Millbury, which is Lake Township, which is Wood County.

Map of Ohio-9:

Kaptur may have other constituents affected by the storms, but Lake Township is completely Latta's territory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio's_5th_congressional_district

'The district is currently represented by Republican Bob Latta. Currently, all of Crawford, Defiance, Fulton, Henry, Huron, Paulding, Putnam, Sandusky, Seneca, Van Wert, Williams, and Wood Counties'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millbury,_Ohio

'Millbury is a village in Wood County, Ohio, United States'

'At around 11:15 PM on June 5, 2010, an EF4 tornado tore through the town[4], destroying at least 50 homes and killing 6 people[5]. This tornado also destroyed the Lake Township Administration Building and Police Department, and Lake High School'

We're done here.

Ottawa county is ALL marcy...

Are you clods claiming there was no damage in ottawa county now too?

I know your zeal to defend all that is "the one" is hard and true...but not even you guys can change reality by screaming louder:

Quote:

An EF4 tornado with winds of 175 mph ripped through Lake Township and the Village of Millbury in northern Wood County and then tracked northeast into Ottawa County, destroying the township's police and emergency center as well as Lake High School.

Link:

http://www.foxtoledo.com/dpp/news/local/FEMA-deines-Latta-tornado-aid

In Ottawa County - Allen Twp. bears brunt of tornado’s destruction
Written by Larry Limpf

http://www.presspublications.com/from-the-press/4666-in-ottawa-county-al...

hats off to Latta though...if not for his very public pressure strickland wouldnt even be mounting an appeal...

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/state&id=7520714

Ohio Governor Ted Strickland today announced he will appeal FEMA's decision to reject Ohio's request for federal disaster assistance for storm-ravaged Northwest Ohio.

"Anyone who takes the time to walk among the wreckage will see not only the sheer physical devastation, but also the indestructible determination of the men, women and especially the children in these Ohio communities. That gives us the greatest hope for the region's recovery. But that recovery requires a full and faithful partnership from our federal partners as well. I have concluded that FEMA's stated basis for rejecting Ohio's emergency declaration request, that the state and local communities have sufficient resources to assist the affected communities, is wrong. Today, I am appealing to President Obama to overturn that decision," Strickland said.

FEMA stated in its rejection letter that "&it has been determined that the damage was not of such severity and magnitude as to be beyond the capabilities of the State, affected local governments and voluntary agencies. Accordingly, we have determined that supplemental Federal assistance is not necessary."

The governor will also send a letter today to the Small Business Administration to request that the SBA immediately begin its process to make loan assistance available to those Ohioans in need.

-------------------------------------------

So lets make a prediction...if Obama flip flops and approves the FEMA aid...you guys will all be in full support...after the fact...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

http://www.portclintonnewsherald.com/article/20100606/UPDATES01/10060600...

'At least seven people were killed in Wood County. No fatalities were reported in Ottawa County, officials said.'

“It’s a miracle,” said Bruce Moritz, Allen Clay Joint Fire District chief.
Moritz said eight homes were destroyed, three received major damage and 10 received minor damage.

In Wood County and the surrounding area, more than 50 homes were destroyed and 50 damaged, in addition to at least six commercial buildings.

So we can conclude the vast amount of damage from these storms was in Wood County, Bob Latta country.

BTW, I believe Obama should have toured the damaged areas to the entire region; my recollection is he was in the Midwest area sometime after the tornadoes passed though speaking at a college commencement.

But, I'm not going to play the 'Obama hates Whitey' card...that's your whine and cheese...

Uh oh...looks like Marcy is against the FEMA denial too....LMAO!

http://www.wfin.com/localnews201.asp?id=5170&storyno=3

So now Latta, Strickland and Kaptur all want FEMA to reconsider...and all Obama had to do is pick up the phone...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Maybe Obama just doesn't like Wood County?

Remember Bush declared Findlay a disaster area during the flood.

MikeyA

"truthseeker" a poster from GSJ has an interesting and factual comment concerning the disaster denial:

But – there is an even more interesting thing going on here, and it is Obama hiding behind the skirts of “FEMA” in this case. He doesn’t accept responsibility/blame for not declaring our area a disaster area – FEMA – for the first time in my memory gets blamed. Huh???? When EVER (prior to Ohio’s tornado-wrecked area) have you heard that FEMA declares a disaster? It is always the PRESIDENT who declares a disaster (or declines to do so). I can’t believe my eyes and ears – and the script saying FEMA denies disaster relief to our area is being read by every national news person, Gov. Strickland, you name it. They are ALL saying FEMA is denying the relief. Talk about orchestrated hogwash, this takes the cake. FEMA is an agency that administers relief where they are instructed to. The PRESIDENT issues such instructions.

http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2010/06/ohio-denied-federal-assista...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.-Ben Franklin

And Obama took credit for declaring Nashville a disaster area.
"The President today declared a major disaster exists in the State of Tennessee and ordered Federal aid to supplement State and local recovery efforts in the area struck by severe storms, flooding, straight-line winds, and tornadoes beginning on April 30, 2010, and continuing..."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-signs-tenness...

Barry took credit for declaring Rowan County KY a disaster area.
http://themoreheadnews.com/local/x895849758/President-declares-Rowan-maj...

Barak Sotero took credit for declaring parts of Kansas disaster areas.
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=50598

But for some reason, FEMA denied Wood Co?

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

It will be tough to get the President's attention on this matter. He's too busy looking for golf courses in Toronto. And Biden is making frozen custard cones in Milwaukee. Frankly there isn't enough outrage from all the so-called political leaders in our area. Maybe it's because most of them are Democrats and they're afraid of offending the feds in Washington. I'm even surprised some of the people quoted in the media aren't so mad about this. They all act like they ordered a steak cooked medium and got it medium well. So what. Big deal. All the people around here have to do is muster up the guts to tell Obama, Strickland and the rest of the Democrats that they will never ever get their votes again, if they can't help them out.

toledojim

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.