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Come on. Can we get any more anti-israel hating answers to pick from?

I'm not anti-Israel 4 out 5 of the questions at Globalsecurity.org where I got the poll from is very anti-Israel. Not Global security itself, but whoever launched the poll. I amended the first question adding the (so call activists). Now, how do you conceive an anti-Israel hate question from read it again> (Gaza has been subject to an Israeli blockade for years and the (so called activists) had no right to break it.) Should I have made them all positive? See remarks like yours are like making grammar errors in writing; you need to proof read them before submitting.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

Thank you for the clarification about the source of the biased against Israel comments.

The one comment that Gaza has been "subject" to an Israeli blockade is biased, because the plain truth is Israel has been subject to nothing but trouble from the bleeding wound of Gaza and it's past time they cauterize it as Meir Kahane would call for (facing reality rather than pretending you can deal with rabid dogs).

http://www.davidbenariel.org/israel/they-must-go.htm

Let me explain....
I'm not anti-Israel 4 out 5 of the questions at Globalsecurity.org where I got the poll from is very anti-Israel. Not Global security itself, but whoever launched the poll. I amended the first question adding the (so call activists). Now, how do you conceive an anti-Israel hate question from read it again> (Gaza has been subject to an Israeli blockade for years and the (so called activists) had no right to break it.) Should I have made them all positive? See remarks like yours are like making grammar errors in writing; you need to proof read them before submitting.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

They should have offered an answer that includes treating the Nazi Muslims in Gaza like the sworn enemies they are since some of us have not forgotten Israeli hostage GILAD SHALIT being held there and the Jews who suffer from terrorist attacks from Gaza in Sderot would question where is the humanitarian concern for them and their children? http://sderotmedia.org.il/

Don't Expel Jews from Gaza
Read and weep for the Israeli Jews of Gush Katif/Gaza, on whose behalf I wrote this article in July 2005 before their illegal expulsion by the bribed Ariel Sharon and criminal company working for foreign interests. Many of them remain homeless, depressed and basically abandoned by their lying government -- their former homes history, stripped bare and destroyed by marauding Arab enemies who are now fighting among themselves, one terrorist group (Hamas) against another terrorist group (Fatah).

I doubt highly DTOM is a "left wing jew hater," toledoramblingman - he has indicated he is conservative/libertarian on several threads. Instead of attacking him, perhaps you could simply point out the range of additional options.

I see you edited the earlier post, making my comment now moot. Thanks in advance.

Just curious.

Do people think Israel doesn't have a right to exist? If so, why? Or do people think Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself? If so, why?

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

There are a lot of people, both here and abroad, feel that Israel does not have the right to exist, and that they were given land they should not have received.

From my religious standpoint (and I realize I am opening myself up here), the country of Israel is positive proof of both promises kept and divine intervention. If you review the history of the Jewish people, quite frankly there is no reason the country or the people should exist. The country has been enslaved in biblical times, returned to their promised land, and then scattered to the wind. all the hatred and bigotry towards the Jewish peoples culminated with the Holocaust during WWII. As a result, the country of Israel was reborn, thus fulfilling the promise made between God and his people.

Now, looking at the firepower and hatred aimed at the Jewish state, I think the only reason the country exists is due to divine intervention. I remember reading (and this was a while ago, so I will need to look it back up) some quotes from the Arab soldiers as they were advancing to attack during the six day war, and how they dropped their rifles and ran as they saw angles with swords and shields standing behind the Israeli soldiers. I realize this is not scientific and within historical context, but from a religious point of view I find this facinating due to this tiny country being surrounded by hatred and firepower, and yet still exists after 62 years. I realize most people think that Israel still exists due to the backing of the United States, but I think it is more divine intervention. While most people think the U.S. is the center of the world, I disagree and say it is the state of Israel.

You Sir are 100% correct, Israel will never be destroyed. The temple will be desecrated by the Anti-Christ, but will be redeemed. The forces of China, Russia, and Arab nations combined will march toward Israel with the intent to eliminate them only to be destroyed by the legions of God’s army; it will take 7 months to bury the dead. Our time is at hand, those of us who are lost without Jesus should consider the opportunity to extend our hands in his. I'm just sayin, seems like an intelligent thing to do.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

I honestly can't tell if you are being sarcastic or if you believe all that.

I will pray for you. You have no clue.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

I have no clue how otherwise rational Americans, your previous posts notwithstanding, can believe that end of times story. Its just utterly fantastic. I spose the world was created in 6 days about 6,000 years ago too? C'mon, evolve a bit will ya.

Pascal's wager...look it up.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I get Pascal's wager - widely regarded to be intellectual cowardice by the way. What I don't get is how anyone believes all that crap about Israel and the end of times - its rather child like.

Yes, I believe the world was created 6,000 years ago in 6 days. What knowledge you have while denouncing the word of GOD. Lets here you version of creation. Oh! evolve a bit into what belief, that we can from apes, the sea or the Big Bang. I think you need to evolve a bit.

"DTOM" {1776} " We The People" {1791}

I have faith in the Bible, and do believe in the end times. I do think we are marching towards what was foretold in the book of Revelation. I do not have tangible proof in the history of the world, only the pages that the Bible is printed on. However, I do struggle with the idea that the "big bang" just magically happened and all life sprang before it. However, that is what makes this country great, that you can believe what you do, and I can have my beliefs, and we can all (supposedly) get along!

I agree with your statement: "...people, both here and abroad, feel that Israel does not have the right to exist, and that they were given land they should not have received"

Now who are those people? Apparently in American it is Libs/Dems/Progressives, right? (I based that on your previous statements). Libs/Dems/Progressives were up in arms when the United States went against the United Nations and invaded Iraq, right? Libs/Dems/Progressives ranted and raved about how the UN had some sort of authority over the United States.

And the United Nations officially created Israel with Resolution 181 in 1947
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION/GEN/NR0/038/88/IMG/NR003888....

So I ask the Libs/Dems/Progressives, which way do you want to have it? Believe the UN and accept Israel? Or believe the UN failed more than once and the Iraq war was justified?

Also, I believe the Muslim world (esp in the Middle East) does not believe that Israel should exist. Would you agree with that statement?

If the Muslim World believes that Israel should not exist, please explain why Muhammad mentioned Judea, the land of the Jew, in the Koran?

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

I would agree that there are many Liberals/Democrats/Progressives that feel that Israel does not have the right to exist. However, I do run with a more "conservative" crowd (hence my career as an accountant) and surprisingly, there is a lot of anti-Jewish sentiment with the conservative group as well. In my travels in my prior life, I was surprised as well as how open this sentiment is here in the United States. Europe was not surprising to me (granted I was in Germany and England, not the best representatives of Jewish support), but here in the States it shocked me.

I absolutely agree that the Muslim world does not think that Israel has the right to exist. Again, and this is from a Biblical perspective, the Muslim faith is traced back to Abraham's son Ishmael. Ishmael was the son of Abraham and his servant Hagar due to Abraham's wife not being able to conceive. Abraham's wife then proceed to treat Hagar badly due to jealousy, and after Hagar ran away, the Lord convinced her to return to Abraham and as such, Ishmael's decendents would be too numerous to count, however, Ishmael and his decendents would forever live in hostility towards all his brothers. Hence, from a biblical perspective, the hostility between the Arabs and the rest of the world. Considering that Muhommed claims that he is a decendent of Ishmael, he would be familiar with the land of Judea and have mentioned it in the Koran.

Again, just my two cents.

but it doesn't mean we support everything the godless Israeli government does, any more than we support everything our godless government does.

Christian Zionist, Jews and Israel
I am a Bible-believer, a Christian-Zionist (one who believes the Prophets foretold the restoration of Jews first of all 12 Tribes of Israel to the Promised Land of Israel before the end of this world as we know it). I am not a Protestant or a "Jew for Jesus" and certainly not a member of the Roman Catholic Cult. I am a baptized member of the Sabbath-keeping Church of God...

Isn't it amazing that a country that is a bastion of freedom, individual liberty, and free markets (capitalism), surrounded by theocratic dictatorships and despotic kingdoms, and in defense of its very existence is now under attack by the UN.

What is the real root cause of this evilness? The Jews have been hated historically, but now, the aim of "progressives" is to link the Jews, and hatred for them, to free market capitalism. If the Marxists can convince the world that there is a linkage between free market economies and banking systems to the hated Jews, the goal of world governance will be more easily achieved.

As we know, the obama administration is wading into this cautiously, in order to test the waters, and not incite the public, that is largely opposed to His ultimate goal of the world wide collective.

The destruction of Israel is not just a Arab aim, it will also further the mission of the "progressives".

When 78% of Jewish voters in America voted for Obama in the last election? And, historically, American Jews have always leaned Democratic.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewvote.html

Why would American Jews vote overwhelmingly for "progressives"/Liberals,/Democrats when the "destruction of Israel is not just a Arab aim, it will also further the mission of the "progressives""?

What you say doesn't make sense. Do you actually think that American Jews are going to vote for the very people who are using their destruction for political gain?

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

I realize it isn't congruent with the Jewish predominant party preference.
I think a lot of the American Jews that voted for obama, are seeing their mistake at the voting both, just as a lot of others are. The Jewish voting block for the libs has always been a mystery, just as the black 95% block in favor of the libs. I think That will change, at least with the Jews.

Jews have mostly supported dems, even though the conservative governments have been their stanchest ally. You don't really think obama likes Jews do you? It is not in line with his ideology.

The global governance model (you know world Marxism) so desperately wanted by the "progressives" will never succeed without the passage of the cap and trade scam for wealth redistribution that obama is trying to cram down our throats.

I wish some nation would pay for our national defense. Then we could spend all kinds of money on government welfare programs like Medicare. I do not hate the Jews or Israel but the idea that they exist because of their own efforts is a laugh. We've covered their asses every day since 1948. And they are completely ungrateful for our efforts. Remember the Liberty!

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Jews have mostly supported dems, even though the conservative governments have been their stanchest ally. You don't really think obama likes Jews do you? It is not in line with his ideology.

Can you support that a bit? How is not liking Jews in line with his ideology?

The "progressive" goal is the destruction of the free market, of which the Jewish state is a beacon of freedom, individualism and the free market system, and all are contrary to the "progressive" ideology.

Israel is clearly and easy target, and easy targets are the whipping boys of bullies and thugs. This is just another related trait of your Messiah.

Wow

Such vitriol. I guess I see no evidence of President Obama wanting to destroy the free market. Regulate, yes. Destroy, not so much. Unregulated capitalism, afterall, doesn't work very well.

There hasnt been "unregulated capitalism" since the creation of the federal reserve...

The problem isnt a lack of regulations...it's that the regulators have been bought off....

Everyone who paid any attention knows what caused this...the housing bubble and the subprime fannie and freddie mortage backed securities and derivatives...

The same people making the regulations where betting against the housing market...

All roads lead to the house and senate banking committies...and who runs them...

Democrats inside and outside of freddie and fannie have LOOTED wealth from American homeowners...

No crisis they claimed....fully solvent they claimed....broke they ARE...

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Fannie & Freddie: The most expensive bailout

Efforts to use the troubled mortgage finance firms to fix housing market problems

http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/22/news/companies/fannie_freddie_bailout/

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And I will remind you that when Democrats took control of both house of congress in 2006, unemployment was 4.6%

http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/03/news/economy/jobs_october/index.htm

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Here is more evidence of the left wing conspiracy against Israel. The leftist Reuters "news" agency is at it again. The media is consistent in its role of leading the proaganda campaign against all things Jewish.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/08/reuters-fake-photos-ihh-gaza-blo...

Bah ...wrong spot

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Heh...we'll call it the 'Lib's lib paradox"

"Now who are those people? Apparently in American it is Libs/Dems/Progressives, right? (I based that on your previous statements). Libs/Dems/Progressives were up in arms when the United States went against the United Nations and invaded Iraq, right? Libs/Dems/Progressives ranted and raved about how the UN had some sort of authority over the United States.

And the United Nations officially created Israel with Resolution 181 in 1947
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION/GEN/NR0/038/88/IMG/NR003888....
So I ask the Libs/Dems/Progressives, which way do you want to have it? Believe the UN and accept Israel? Or believe the UN failed more than once and the Iraq war was justified?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Israel has been subject to terrorism for years from the Gaza stronghold and the sooner they expel their sworn enemies the better. Besides where is the humanitarian concern for Israeli soldier GILAD SHALIT who the Nazi-Muslims have held hostage in Gaza for years? The Israeli media failed to take the bull by the horns and publicize the plight of GILAD SHALIT.

http://giladshalit.blogspot.com/

Furthermore, watch: