Where's the Toyota threads?

Just curious why we haven't seen a posting on Toyota's terrorist plot to kill Americans.

You wouldn't know it, but this isn't the first recall ever.

But I have a question - The federal government as well as GM are piling on. UAW is in on it too.

Is it because of the seriousness of the issue and GM wants Toyota's customers, or has this crossed the line into nationalism with shades of jingoism because Toyota is a foreign company?

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How about the idiotic notion the ALL cars should be built so as to not put peoples lives in danger-even those cars built by vastly superior non-union workers, or by companies making huge fortunes in the US which are then sent offshore to China, Japan or Korea? I can hear Toyota, Mitsubishi, etc. going: waaaa-waaaaaa-we're being held to safety standards JUST LIKE U.S. companies are-that's no fair!!! The reason we always hear from someone tooling down the road, in a large lawnmower-type contraption with a 20 horsepower engine, is they bought it because it's a better quality car than an American one is. Well, that is when the brakes happen to work maybe? My Chevy stops everytime I hit the brakes, and it isn't named something that sounds like a Priapism.


Trying to remember if competitors always jump on the other company.

Toyota is going to be buried by litigation - I'm hearing estimates of a couple billion will be paid out in court by Toyota. Obviously, Toyota has to abide by standards and will be punished, but I wasn't aware of competitor's jumping in on the "fun."

I find it odd that the evil foreigners are the one's getting piled on, on top of what is inevitable by the appropriate government agencies and tort lawyers.

you seem to have no experience with how the world operates. Certainly none as to how the business world operates, either. Their primary rule is: eat, or be eaten. Ford, GM and Chrysler are taking their places at the table set by Toyota--bon apetit!


Gov Motors is running ads to turn in a toyota, but haven't seen the private Ford company stoop low.

And eat or be eaten doesn't apply to GM and Chrysler. Where's your experience? It's eat or get bailed out. lol!


10 YEARS, DOZENS OF LAWSUITS, AND OVER 100 DEATHS, then Congress acts?

Firestone, Ford under fire

Companies try to pin blame on each other, but others say both are at fault

"WASHINGTON (CNNfn) - U.S. lawmakers sharply criticized Bridgestone/Firestone and Ford Motor Co. Wednesday for not acting quickly enough to recall millions of Firestone tires that have been linked to at least 134 deaths in the United States and abroad. But in testimony, the heads of both companies pointed the finger of blame at the other.

In a day of congressional hearings looking into the events leading up to last month's recall of 6.5 million Firestone tires that dragged late into the evening, officials also chided the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for taking too long to respond to complaints that the tires were separating from their treads, even though an insurance researcher notified NHTSA of the problem nearly two years ago."

"We need to know why NHTSA, which has officials who are paid to do nothing else but monitor accidents, have been asleep at the wheel when it had information served up to it on a silver platter by State Farm Insurance Company which would suggest grave problems with Firestone tires," said Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich, referring to the State Farm researcher, Sam Boyden, who first discovered the link between roadway fatalities and the  tread separation problem.


Federal safety officials say up to 88 deaths in the United States may have been caused by tread separation on some versions of the Firestone Wilderness tires, as well as its ATX and ATX II models. Most of the 6.5 million tires involved in an Aug. 9 recall are on Ford Motor Co. light trucks and sport/utility vehicles, such as its best-selling Explorer. Officials in Venezuela are also investigating whether the tires led to 46 deaths there.

On Sept. 1, NHTSA issued an advisory on an additional 1.4 million older model tires after Firestone refused to recall them. Firestone said it didn't find enough evidence to issue a recall.


Harsh words from Congress

"I would like to know how it could take us 10 years, dozens of lives, numerous lawsuits, substantial consumer complaints, tire replacements overseas and repeated expressions of concern by an insurance company before any action was taken to initiate an investigation into the safety of a product being used by millions of American families," Sen. Richard Shelby, chairman of the Senate Transportation subcommittee said. "Simply put - the American people deserve better."

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A feb 15th dispatch story says there have been 34 deaths so far.

The foreigners still got some catchin up.

Firestone is a division of Bridgestone, a Japanese company.

Also, Ford Explorers with Goodyear tires did not suffer from the same tread separation and rollover problems that Firestone-equipped Explorers experienced.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

...because Firestone was never able to recover from the first time it sold crappy tires. In the '70's

But in the '90's, the tires on Ford Explorers that were killing people were made by Americans in an American plant.

Don't worry though.  Like other plants including Autolite, Champion, DeVilbiss etc, the Firestone Decatur Ill, plant has been closed and all the employees are without jobs.

WASHINGTON, June 27, 2001
Firestone Closing Decatur Plant
Company Recently Spilt With Ford, Underwent Layoffs

(AP) Bridgestone/Firestone Inc. announced Wednesday it will close the Decatur, Ill., plant that produced most of the 6.5 million tires the company was forced to recall last summer.

Bridgestone/Firestone said 1,380 employees and 100 contractors work at the plant. Another 440 Decatur workers have been laid off since the recall.


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Wolfman's condition has been raised to "stable." His unfortunate accident was caught on film. He apologizes for his lapse of good judgment. He's looking forward to contributing to this subject in the future. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B2e6D484v8

Statements made are the opinion of the writer who is exercising his first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and are generally permitted.

Dogboy talking about himself in the third person...typing out a manifesto...

Non Compos Mentis

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”


need to shout into the radios of their Japanese road oilers the following: Tora! Tora! Tora!----as they blindly crash into bridge abutments, parked and moving cars, and hapless unsuspecting pedestrians. And nobodys' supposed to say a damn thing about it? I don't believe what I read here sometimes!

For the first time last week, someone connected with Toys-ota made a recent statement in English that sounded like English spoken in "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo", or "Bridge Over The River Kwai". For thirty years prior, this company had speakers address the American Public that sounded like Harvard MBAs, or someones' dutch uncle from Iowa. You know Toysota is in trouble now! I fully expect to hear from Hirohito before this unmitigated disaster is over.

Or maybe cause congress is calling on them and was gonna subpoena Mr Toyoda

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