Attempted Terror Attack In Detroit

The religion of "peace" is at it again. When will America wake up?
http://freep.com/comments/article/20091225/NEWS05/91225022/Reports-NWA-p...

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We've already invaded Iraq, had Sadaam overthrown and then killed...what, that didn't solve the problem? You shittin' me?

to apologize again.

That should fix everything.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

I wouldnt sh!t my favorite turd....

I thought your leper messiah was going to sow peace and love....the war on terror is over....Obama isnt comfortable with terms like "victory"....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Some Americans have been warning against the evils of religious fundamentalists for years. Damn religious freaks. Let's go bomb some civilians--I'm sure that'll help.

Pink Slip

The funny part of your post....we know you arent refering to Islam....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Interesting that the white house has called this, an attempted act of terrorism, yet when a devout Muslim shouts Allah Akbar in Fort Hood and kills 13 soldiers and wounds scores more they don't consider it terrorism.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

These arent the mooselimbs you are looking for..

*waves hand*

Move along.....move along....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

What, specifically, are you amazed that Americans won't wake up to?

I believe he's refering to a subset of Americans who pretend there is no such thing as islamic terrorism ....or islamo facism...

Those who scoff at the idea that some mooselimb will try and kill them...

The people who see christianity as more evil than Islam....

People like pinko,dogboy, sensitive G-spot, etc....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I'm against ALL religious extremists.

Pink Slip

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

BS.

To you a nun is a religious extremist....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

what should 'America' do?

Or is this just more pissin' in the wind rhetoric like hittin' the streets, huntin' down 'enemies of America' (i.e. Liberals) with your B.B. gun?

Hrmmm..you could start by checking the no fly list...the guy was on it....his dad reported him months ago...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Obama and liberals are responsible because the $18-an-hour Homeland Security guy/gal didn't do his/her job?

Projecting?..a freudian slip?

Did I say that?...prehaps you could offer a quote?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Let's look at a few recent terror campaigns by non-Muslims - where is the outrage? I would hate to call anyone a terrorist-enabler.

*Burgos bombing - Basque separatists injured at least 65 people in a bomb attack in the northern city of Burgos, Spain. July 29, 2009.

*Holocaust Museum attack - a white supremacist and Holocaust denier shoots up the Holocaust museum for his causes. June 10, 2009.

*Massereene Barracks attack IRA splinter group claims responsibility for attack on off-duty British Army regulars. March 7, 2009.

* Bomb attack against president of Belarus Nationalist gang known as the White Legion attempted to blow up the president of Belarus. July 4, 2008.

* Bus bombings by Tamil Tigers - Sri Lankan Tamil nationalists (who, by the way, tend to be anti-Muslim) make a statement by killing innocent civilians. January 16, 2008.

* Miles Cooper letter bomber - Teacher at a Church of England school who decided to bomb innocent civilians because of his fear of "authoritarian government." Jan-Feb 2007.

* Connetquot High School bomb plot - disgruntled NY high school student was tired of being teased as "trailer trash" and wanted to exact revenge. July 12, 2007.

This short list took me about 10 minutes to dig up. After compiling it, I am beginning to be VERY AFRAID of terror attacks by non-Muslims. I think we need a new warning system and a new country to invade.

So you go on an international cherry picking expedition as a responce to do an act of islamic terror...

The IRA?

Basque seperatists?

White Legion?..sheesh...they are supported by the russians...

A old crazy neo-nazi?

A school teacher in the UK...

Two teenagers?

Hrm.....yes...I agree...you cherrypicked...out of the 7 articles cited ...2 happened in the US...12.25 % of what you posted ....that you admit being VERY AFRAID of...

Several of the groups cited are LEFTIST rebel groups...trying to overthrow civilian Govt...some including clear alliances with Al Queda...

Tamil Tigers?...as an example of non islamic terror???

and you have a frickin PHD?

Maybe you should spend more than ten minutes cherry picking and actually READ the subject matter you present...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam

As late as 1998, the Tigers clearly stated:

... the LTTE has resolved to work in solidarity with the world national liberation movements, socialist states, and international working class parties. We uphold an anti-imperialist policy and therefore we pledge our militant solidarity against western imperialism, neo-colonialists, Zionism, racism and other forces of reaction.[125]

The Westminster Journal further states:

Intelligence agencies are well aware that the LTTE was involved in the 1990s in training the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and the Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) both of which are closely linked to al-Qaeda. In 1995 and 1998, an LTTE combat tactician and an LTTE explosives expert accompanying groups of al-Qaeda Arabs was recorded training members of MILF. In 1999, an LTTE combat tactician accompanying a group of al-Qaeda Arabs was recorded training members of the ASG. At the apparent behest of al-Qaeda, the LTTE is recorded training members of Al Ummah (An Islamic terrorist group formed in India in 1992, believed to be responsible for bombings in southern India in 1998) in Tamil Nadu, India.[125]

The Times of India, in a 2001 article, highlights an alleged nexus between al-Qaeda and the LTTE, and claims that "[al-Qaeda links with the LTTE] are the first instance of an Islamist group collaborating with an essentially secular outfit".[126] Additionally, the US-based research organisation "Maritime Intelligence Group" said the Indonesian group Jemaah Islamiya, which has known links to al-Qaeda, had been trained in sea-borne guerrilla tactics by LTTE Sea Tiger veterans.[125]

"Norwegians Against Terrorism", a one-man band led by convicted murderer Falk Rune Rovik,[127][128] further described how the Tamil community in Norway, at the behest of the LTTE, sold fake and stolen Norwegian passports to al-Qaeda members.[125] The LTTE itself acquired a fake passport for Ramzi Yousef, convicted mastermind of the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center in New York.[125]

A Council on Foreign Affairs article by Preeti Bhattacharji stated, "the secular nationalist LTTE currently has no operational connection with al-Qaeda, its radical Islamist affiliates, or other terrorist groups,"[129] but "In its early days, experts say the LTTE did train with the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). The group may still interact with other terrorist organizations through illegal arms markets in Myanmar, Thailand, and Cambodia."[130]

Riddle me this .......

Do you view the FT hood shooting as an act of terror?

And speaking of irrational fears.....I dont view people who harbor irrational fears as fully rational....I dont care how many letters you have behind your name...

You should work on that acrophobia thingy....fear is the mind killer.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

1. The "fear" is supposed to be read as sarcasm. I do not live my life in fear of terror, be it perpetrated by Muslims, Christians, or any other religious/political fanatics. Perhaps a thousand people die in the average year from a terrorist attack, and out of a global population of over six billion souls, those are some slim odds. Besides, I am eight times more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist, and I am 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack. BTW - I don't worry about these, either.

2. Fort Hood as terrorism? Perhaps, but if I allow this crazed Muslim shooter as a terrorist then you have to allow the crazed non-Muslims I cited. Besides, crazy is a relative term - we tend to define as "insane" acts that the average person would not commit. However, I suspect that the real reason that Fort Hood was not classified as terrorism was from a security standpoint, not one of PR spin or conspiratorial coverup: the feds probably do not want to create the impression that military bases are easy targets for terrorists.

3. Just because a group may work with al Qaeda does not make them Muslims. The Tamil separatists are predominately Hindu (though there are some Christian and Muslim Tamils, combined which make up about 10 percent of the Tamil population). LTTE has a long history of antagonism toward the Muslim minority population in Sri Lanka. That being said, it is not unusual for terror networks to interface when there is an opportunity to benefit both groups, just as the Taliban has no problem working with drug networks for the short-term goal of raising cash.

5. Yes, I recently earned my PhD. Thanks for asking.

6. Have had acrophobia all my life. Thanks for the advice. I am who I am, and I do not pretend to be anything I am not. I am up front with my opinions and weaknesses, though I understand that some keyboard commandos are frightened by the idea that others might get the idea that they are human and not really capable of being the Rambos they imagine themselves to be, like would-be Jihadist-subduer Tedd Petruna.

7. My cherry-picking was in response to the cherry-picking of Muslim terrorists vis a vis the snarky "religion of peace" comment by the original poster. Every time some nutcase who happens to be a Muslim engages in an act of violence lots of scared folks like to attack the religion of Islam, while giving a free pass to any non-Muslim whackjobs who commit acts of terror or political/religious violence.

"keyboard commandos"

Nice. I was thinking "warrior-blogger", but this works too.

Pink Slip

Heh. I do not remember where I heard the term, but it fits well.

Very true words ..
http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/12/26/al-qaedas-desperate-bid-fo...


For the sake of argument, let’s take the most expansive theory of how Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab tried to blow up a Detroit-bound passenger jet. According to the Wall Street Journal, Abdulmutallab gets an explosive device from al-Qaeda operatives in Yemen; takes a couple of layovers to get on the plane; boards with his device; ignites it; it fizzles; passengers and crew subdue him. And we’re supposed to be scared of this?

As I said, we’re going to assume those direct ties exist for the sake of argument. The Times account is more skeptical. But go with it. What does this say about al-Qaeda?

First, al-Qaeda’s signatures are redundance and simultaneity. Think 9/11, Madrid, London: all used multiple operatives focused on multiple targets, acting in unison. That’s to ensure something blows up if and when something goes wrong. But here Abdulmutallab acted alone. There can be little doubt the operation was intended to go off on Christmas, for the obvious symbolism, so we would have seen evidence of a coordinated attack by now. The inescapable if preliminary conclusion: al-Qaeda can’t get enough dudes to join Abdulmutallab. And what does it give the guy to set off his big-boom? A device that’s “more incendiary than explosive,” in the words of some anonymous Department of Homeland Security official to the Times.

And if Abdulmutallab didn’t have clear ties to al-Qaeda? That he’s part of the cohort of self-starters al-Qaeda is trying to inspire, not train and direct? That’s good news too, because his capabilities weren’t sufficient to bring down the plane. As I reported in this piece, the most salient facts about this recent slew of attempted terrorist attacks is that they either failed outright or they didn’t kill many people.

Go read the entire thing.

As I said...liberals scoff.....until hundreds or thousands die...then they will deny scoffing...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Or we could go the conserviative route by shitting our pants, curling up into the fetal position and praying that big government can take away more of our rights to keep us safe.

conserviative?

LMAO...I'm not a spelling nazi but that's funny...

I would settle for a simple addmission that islamic terror even exists...rather than trying to redefine it as "acts of man caused disaster"...

One problem with libs...they think if they change the lexicon attached...they somehow change reality...becuase for liberals...perception IS reality....and so long as liberals(in the press) control what other liberals perceive...they control liberal reality...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

LMAO..and that's a good thing for you...and that's funny:

'So you go on an international cherry picking expedition as a responce to do an act of islamic terror'...

Like I said...I'm not a spelling nazi....

I also went on to address his post...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

happy now?

'becuase for liberals'...

LMAO...never mind...

Well that is a stunning admission...I must say...

and yeah....my spelling stinks on ice...

*shrug*

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

SensorG, you hit the nail directly on the head. Right-wingers love to say that liberals "don't get" or "refuse to acknowledge" the problem of terrorism. What this really means is, liberals won't join right-wingers in wildly over-reacting to the threat of terrorism by implementing counterproductive, money-wasting policies.

Forthcoming security-state reaction:

"We need a second "Patriot" Act. Maybe we can do away with more of our civil liberties in order to protect the "Homeland". You don't need those civil liberties, unless you have something to hide".

Pink Slip

Hrm...dont Democrats control the current Security-State?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

That's why the liberal infestation in the country is soooooo upset about their 'civil liberties'---most of 'em have all sorts of tacky, perverse details in their lives even other liberals would be disgusted to find out about.

You support the security state, right? You already expressed your support for the Patriot Act, and the suppression of civil liberties. Anything for the "Homeland", eh der Zeitgeist?

Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?

Pink Slip

Dodge...duck... weave....LMAO....

Dont democrats control the CURRENT security state?

Isnt OBAMA in charge?

Dont the democrats hold the majority of the house and senate?...and have since 2006?

gee pal...these are YOUR guys in power now....

You cant even name a single liberty you supposedly lost....go ahead...try...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

If anyone is interested in a thorough study of terror attacks in Europe, here is a link to Europol's EU Terorism Situation and Trend Report 2008. The breakdown for the 583 "failed, foiled and successfully executed attacks" committed on the continent of Europe for 2007 is as follows:

Separatist groups - 517 attacks
Not specified - 24 attacks
Left wing groups - 21 attacks
Islamist groups - 4 attacks
Right wing groups - 1 attack
Single issue groups - 1 attack

I know this will disappoint those who think all or most terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims, but a little data never hurt anyone.

I love the law of unintended consequences...

Left wing groups - 21 attacks
Islamist groups - 4 attacks
Right wing groups - 1 attack

The european left is 5 times as dangerous as radical islam!...21 times more dangerous than the eurpoean right...

Thanks Mike!

Got any American Stats for us?

As a footnote...the report you link to states the following:

"Terrorist organisations in the TE-SAT are categorised
by their source of motivation. However this is
not always an easy task, as many groups have a
mixture of motivating ideologies, although usually
one ideology or motivation dominates. The choice
of categories used in the TE-SAT is pragmatic and
reflects the current situation in the EU. The categories
are not necessarily mutually exclusive."

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

A few more thoughts before I leave the Muslim-bashing post:

1. You write as if I actually self-identify as a liberal or socialist, or as if you think I actually give a s**t that you think I am a cartoon caricature of a liberal. I know this is difficult for you to wrap your mind around, but there are a whole lot of Americans who do not fall into the neat us-vs-them or conservative-vs.liberal categories you love. My practical politics do not fit any simple labels: I am pro-Second Amendment, anti-police state, pro-small business, anti-multinational corporatist, anti-racist, pro-low taxes, pro-small-d-democratic, quasi-libertarian, and heck - while we are at it, I might as well be semi-socialist. I have been called everything from a communist to a fascist, and I have voted for two Republican, three Democratic, and two third-party presidential candidates since 1984. Locally, I voted for twice as many Republican as Democratic city council candidates this time around. My principal defining characteristic is an unabiding disgust with ignorance and stupidity, which I why I wasted time on this post.

2. Here is a link to an FBI report on terrorism. The DOJ did not summarize Muslim terror attacks in the United States in an easy-to-quote statistic, but near the end is a detailed list of every event from 1980 to 2005 that the DOJ considers to be terrorist in nature. There are not many that have an obvious Islamic connection, though the 1993 and 2001 WTC bombings of course claimed a disproportionately high number of casualties.

3. Since you raised the higher statistical likelhood of a leftist terrorist attack, I should also quote from the report that leftist attacks tended to be targeted toward facilities and infrastructure: "Eighty percent of all leftwing and anarchist terrorist attacks were successfully executed. There have been no reports on fatalities or casualties in relation to these attacks." Islamist and separatist groups are more likely to design attacks with mass human casualties in mind.

"A few more thoughts before I leave the Muslim-bashing post:"

AH...you suffer from the paradigm that pointing out facts is muslim bashing...
.

'1. You write as if I actually self-identify as a liberal or socialist,>

No need to self identify...I've read enough to see through whatever labels you like to hide behind to appear all respectable and stuff...

" or as if you think I actually give a s**t that you think "

Obviously.....yet you must post...must get a word in...it is your nature...dont fight it...you will continue to do it....I'd bet money on it...

"I am a cartoon caricature of a liberal."

That is an oxymoron.

" I know this is difficult for you to wrap your mind around, but there are a whole lot of Americans who do not fall into the neat us-vs-them or conservative-vs.liberal categories you love."

LMAO...yeah sure...play the middleman all you want...it dont wash...

" My practical politics do not fit any simple labels: I am pro-Second Amendment, anti-police state, pro-small business, anti-multinational corporatist, anti-racist, pro-low taxes, pro-small-d-democratic, quasi-libertarian, and heck - while we are at it, I might as well be semi-socialist."

And afriad of hights.....got it....I think the term you are looking to lay out is "nuanced"...

But that term has gotten a bad wrap I guess...so you try and jump through enough hoops to attempt to hold credibility...

" I have been called everything from a communist to a fascist,"

And yet that has nothing to do with your opinions....right...

Now comes the disclaimer:

" and I have voted for two Republican, three Democratic, and two third-party presidential candidates since 1984. Locally, I voted for twice as many Republican as Democratic city council candidates this time around."

And...so?

" My principal defining characteristic is an unabiding disgust with ignorance and stupidity, which I why I wasted time on this post."

The obvious meaning...I'm am ignorant and stupid....yet I'm not the one who tried to pass off the tamil tigers as an example of non- muslim terrorists...when they are clearly allied to Abu Sayyaf....hell they only TRAIN muslim terrorists..right?....no connection what so ever...right?

"2. Here is a link to an FBI report on terrorism. The DOJ did not summarize Muslim terror attacks in the United States in an easy-to-quote statistic, but near the end is a detailed list of every event from 1980 to 2005 that the DOJ considers to be terrorist in nature."

Thanks for the link....checking it out

" There are not many that have an obvious Islamic connection,"

LOL...You didnt bother to read it then...just breezing through it reads like a counter Al queda manual...

" though the 1993 and 2001 WTC bombings of course claimed a disproportionately high number of casualties."

Yeah...hard to sweep that under the rug I suppose...

"3. Since you raised the higher statistical likelhood of a leftist terrorist attack,"

Incorrect...YOU raised it by posting the material without reviewing what it actually said....I simply quoted it and added comment...

" I should also quote from the report that leftist attacks tended to be targeted toward facilities and infrastructure:"

Translation for the cheap seats...GOVT and public utilities

"Eighty percent of all leftwing and anarchist terrorist attacks were successfully executed. There have been no reports on fatalities or casualties in relation to these attacks."

Oh I bet I can find a couple....

"Islamist and separatist groups are more likely to design attacks with mass human casualties in mind."

And how does that reality jive with your previous statement:

" After compiling it, I am beginning to be VERY AFRAID of terror attacks by non-Muslims."

Oh...it doesnt....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

1. The "ignorant and stupid" referred to the underlying premise of the idea that all or most of the terrorist acts are perpetrated by Muslims. In no way was that meant to demean your posts, which show an obvious intelligence even if I happen to disagree with some of your politics. Have acts of terror been committed by persons claiming some authority from Allah? Of course, and I have never disputed that fact. Two of the deadliest domestic terror attacks were perpetrated by radical Islamic fanatics. However, Islamic terrorists simply have committed very few acts of domestic terror, and anyone who assumes that TERROR=ISLAM is blinded to the very real terror threats of non-Muslim extremists on our soil.

2. Once again, my use of the terms "VERY AFRAID" and "fear" are supposed to be wry commentary or sarcasm. You must not have read the earlier post in which I corrected this mistaken assumption on your part, or you are deliberately being dense to obfuscate my comments.

3. Again, just because the Tamil Tiger militants like LTTE may have links to al-Qaeda or other Islamic groups does not make them Muslims. They are Hindu nationalists who want a separate state for the Tamil people. If I were hypothetically a small-time thug in New York who happened to be black, and I sometimes cooperated with the Mafia, does that necessarily make me a Sicilian mobster? I think not, though by your logic anyone who does criminal business with the mob must be a full-blooded Sicilian. Also, consider the "enemy of my enemy" scenario. Politics does indeed make for strange bedfellows, even in the world of extremist terrorists.

4. Did you actually read the FBI report? By my rough count, there were 221 domestic terror attacks by non-Muslim groups and 22 by Muslim groups (my dogs are in stupid-crazy-bark mode and I might have mis-categorized one or two attacks). Here is a list of the individuals and groups noted as committing acts of terrorism; note that few of them have obvious Islamic connections, and that groups like white supremacists, leftists, eco-terrorists, political extremists, and Puerto Rican nationalists have committed the vast majority of domestic terror in the period from 1980-2005:

Anti-Communist Alliance
Omega 7
Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros
Armed Forces of National Liberation
Croatian Freedom Fighters
Justice Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
Revolutionary Communist Party
Organization of Volunteers for the Puerto Rico Revolution
Revolutionary Commandos of the People
Iranian Free Army
International Committee Against Nazism
Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide
Jewish Defense League
3-Oct
Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade
Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia
Armed Forces of Popular Resistance
Iranian Patriotic Army
Puerto Rican Armed Resistance
Jewish Defenders
June 9 Organization
Libyan Students
People’s Mujahedin Organization of Iran
Black Brigade
June 9 Organization
Grupo Estrella
Concerned Sierra Leone Nationals
Communist Workers Party
Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide
Antonia Martinez Student Commandos
Armed Forces of National Liberation
Provisional Coordinating Committee of the Labor Self-Defense Group
Group for the Liberation of Vieques
Norman David Mayer
United Freedom Front
People of Omar
Revolutionary Fighting Group
Sheriff’s Posse Comitatus
Hossein Olya
Haitian Extremists
United Freedom Front
Armed Resistance Unit
Fuqra
Jewish Direct Action
Red Guerrilla Resistance
Bashir Baesho
Commando Rojo
Earth First
Aryan Nations
Animal Liberation Front
Evan Mecham Eco-Terrorist
Organization Alliance of Cuban Intransigence
Pedro Albizu Campos Revolutionary Forces
Eugenio Maria de Hostos International Brigade of the Pedro Albizu Cam
Up the IRS, Inc
Popular Liberation Army
Mexican Revolutionary Movement
Mujahedin-E-Khalq
Boricua Revolutionary Front
International Islamist Extremists
American Front Skinheads
Rashid Najib Baz
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols
Spokane Bank Robbers
Eric Robert Rudolph
Raymond Anthony Sandoval
Earth Liberation Front
Benjamin Nathaniel Smith
Buford O’Neal Furrow
Revenge of the Trees
Al-Qa’ida
Hesham Mohamed Ali Hedayat

'The obvious meaning...I'm am ignorant and stupid'

Waitress? Check, please...

"My principal defining characteristic is an unabiding disgust with ignorance and stupidity,"

Historymike, how long have you been battling against this, around four and a half years? Another contemporary figure had the same problem, circa 1924.

Nice - thanks for proving Godwin's Law.

How's the ambiance at the 'Hotel Landsberg'? I hear room number 7 has the best view.

My guys? I criticize the policy, no matter who is in power. If the Democrats support the Patriot Act, does that mean that you support them? I really don't care which team you support--just looking for some consistency with your ramblings.

Look up the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and maybe you'll understand criticisms of the Patriot Act.

Pink Slip

"My guys?"

Yup...

Your tribe...your kind...your fellow communist travelers...your champions...

" I criticize the policy, no matter who is in power."

LOL...sure sure...

" If the Democrats support the Patriot Act, does that mean that you support them?"

What do you mean IF?

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/patriotact20012006senatevote.shtml

Marcy even voted for it..."IF"...LMAO.....what an ass...

"I really don't care which team you support"

More BS...

"--just looking for some consistency with your ramblings."

Oh really?..how about pointing out some inconsistancies to support your premis first...

"Look up the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and maybe you'll understand criticisms of the Patriot Act."

Liberal Translation:

"I cant list any liberties I've lost"

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Der Zeitgeist--Maybe you missed the whole warrantless wiretapping story. Or how the government was holding detainees without charging them with a crime (American citizens, no less). Any Democrat who supports these crimes either didn't understand what this act did, or doesn't have respect for the civil liberties in question.

But YOU support these unconstitutional acts. And you love Democrats when they buy into fear-mongering, and vote to weaken our civil liberties.

Pink Slip

Stay tuned-for the usual name calling, insults, and other drivel liberals call debating, to begin. I hope we hear some "Bush is an idiot/Bush is a liar" screeching thrown in-it's been at least two or three days since we've heard that.

If the stated goal of the attack was to blow up an aircraft over American soil, this was a poorly planned attack. Until the last 10 minutes, an Amsterdam-Detroit flight is in Canadian airspace. Given that the explosives used have imprecise detonation timing, an AMS-DTW flight is a poor choice to blow up over the US. In the end, I believe we'll find that the crotch bomber on NWA 253 has a much stronger affiliation with mental illness than Al Qaida.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

The good news is..... "the system worked"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/1209/Napolitano_The_system_wo...

So if you've ever been a passenger on an airplane... you're now a part of the Dept of Homeland Security's system.... no word yet on gov't benefits.

MikeyA

Now she's saying it failed.

wow if I were half as incompetent as some of the people in the administration I would be eligible to be shot in front of firing squad.

MikeyA

She should be running FEMA.

No, she should be in a kitchen somewhere-rattling the pots and pans. The Teleprompter is going on the air shortly, probably to blame Bush/Cheney. "Bush lied, a terrorist tried".

for about the 10th time in a row, a conservative here is actually the first to bring up Bush. Too funny.

Anyone catch the Teleprompters' five minute speech? Blamed the process that is in place regarding watch lists. Of course, The One took no questions.

I find it interesting reading the blogs that Obama is being blamed for this fisasco. As I recall George W. Bush was President of the United States when at least a half dozen planes were flying around the US headed for targets to crash into. The only other time I can recall something like that was on December 7, 1941. Lets face it, because the terrorist got away with it once they think they can do it all the time. Lets give the credit where credit is due. In modern history FDR is numero uno and George Bush is numero dos. The burning of Washington D.C. probably ranks numero uno overall.

I think the difference is no one expected it on 9-11 and the result was for months the whole country was in shock. Same as in 1941.

In the years since we've had the 9-11 commission, the Dept of Homeland Security, and all the TSA changes in which to protect us. This guy got within seconds of killing almost 300 people on American soil and we knew that they were trying.

If you're looking for something from history in which to compare I'd compare it with the Rosenbergs of 1951. The U.S. was already suspicious of Russia and had already established the CIA in the 1947 National Security Act. In other words the gov't should have known and been able to prevent it as was in this case.

Of course, Holder's pursuit of prosecution of CIA officials doesn't help the White House's standing in this instance.

MikeyA

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