Another "Climate Change" faux pax

Here ya go Zeitgeist...The meathead scientists at U of East Anglia now admit that they dumped the raw temperature data that they fed into their models for "global warming"...They cannot now correlate at lot of what they have been spewing out...I guess this goes along with what was found in the email traffic...The article that I found is from the "Times Online"...Follow this link (Since it takes a month for the Times to approve a news/blog site)... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece
Should the link not work this article is currently up on Drudge...Read and smile as we now have more ammo with which to go after our "representatives" when it comes to "crap and tax". Mike

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Here's an actual, thoughtful article on the subject.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/

Stolen emails and pulling quotes out of context do NOT decrease the human influence on our climate. The only thing this will do is allow the Inhofe/head-in-the-sand science deniers a chance to dig in their heels like some adolescent refusing to believe that 2+2=4

Pink Slip

My dear Pink Slip,
Have you ever stood in the eye of a hurricane and marveled at the stars only to be chased in when the wind came around, been knocked on your back by a tornado, walked in snow up to your behind on River Rd above Side Cut, and then wondered years later where the snow was...walked between the piled up ice either side of River Rd, or wondered why the Maumee did not freeze over...ever had your home nearly overtaken by wildfires 3 times in one week, or walk a mile out into a swamp without getting your shoes muddy only to nearly have your home flooded out the following summer? Refuse to walleye fish 'cause the Maumee was too high and dangerous, and then be able to walk across that same area without getting your feet wet months later?
Are 2/3s of the favorites on your machine weather related? Have you had Earth Sciences courses beyond high school? Are you a member of SkyWarn? Have you had data that you have submitted to NWS Cleveland used for training purposes?
Yes to all of the above for me.
Live it! Breathe it!
Do I take the weather seriously? You bet I do.
Insufficient data exists for Mr Gore.
The weather and climate do what they do best...and that is change.
BTW...the previous line is NOT an endorsement for "Climate Change" "errornomics"... This planet of ours is always undergoing metamorphosis...

FLOPSWEAT!!

LMAO...save it for the crazies Pinko....

What this has ALLREADY DONE is blow the lid off of multi TRILLION Dollar shakedown SCAM....

Several of the esteemed wizards of smart are allready under investigation...and now the dog eat their homework....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

More conspiracies from "Z the Truther!"

Pink Slip

It's not a conspiracy if it's done right under your nose...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

No one doubts that weather changes. It will continue to change long after we're gone.

Do you believe humans have any effect on their environment?

Pink Slip

Not in the way that some folks are willing to have us taxed to death! We exhale Co2...what will y'all do when the Govt comes after your breath? People won't feel so smart then.
Besides...there have been ice core sample that have shown higher CO2 levels in the geologic past...Mind you, these were trapped in ice...
And, has any one given thought to alll of the methane trapped below the ocean floor sediments, and what "could" happen should these get loose.
Myself, I do not worry about it, anymore than I worry about the CO2 I exhale.
I work in an environmental field, have for better than 20yrs. In my mid 50s I am still out in the trenches fixing problems and righting wrongs...I worry more about our water than I do the air.
I am an environmentalist, practically speaking, but I have balance.

There's more CO2 in the atmosphere now than in the last 15 million years.

The process of human exhalation is part of a closed loop, with plants and the process of photosynthesis. There's no new CO2 added to the atmosphere in this process.

The excess CO2 is a pollutant, and it needs to be highly taxed. This is the only disincentive to continue spewing it into the atmosphere.

Pink Slip

Here is a graph of the historic CO2 levels and the projected tempreature from the past 800,000 years. Data gathered from  Antarctic ice cores.

MY GOD! CO2 has only been higher than current levels 4 times in the last 800,000 years!

Thankfully, Democrats stopped dinosaurs and neanderthals from driving those HUMMERS and causing the previous 5 CO2 saturation levels in the last 800,000 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Co2-temperature-plot.svg

 

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Haha....I suggest you look at the chart again. At NO TIME in the last 800,000 years have CO2 levels been higher.

(how embarrassing for you "Libtard")

Pink Slip

German scientists declare CO2 to be meaningless concerning global warming:

"The scientists, from many disciplines, including physicists, meteorology, chemistry, and geology, explain that “humans have had no measurable effect on global warming through CO2 emissions. Instead the temperature fluctuations have been within normal ranges and are due to natural cycles.”

“More importantly, there's a growing body of evidence showing anthropogenic CO2 plays no measurable role,” the scientists wrote. “Indeed CO2's capability to absorb radiation is almost exhausted by today's atmospheric concentrations. If CO2 did indeed have an effect and all fossil fuels were burned, then additional warming over the long term would in fact remain limited to only a few tenths of a degree,” they added.

“The IPCC had to have been aware of this fact, but completely ignored it during its studies of 160 years of temperature measurements and 150 years of determined CO2 levels. As a result the IPCC has lost its scientific credibility,” the scientists wrote."

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/2282/Consensus-Takes-Another-Hit-More-than...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

The German national academy of science (Leopoldina), number of members: 1300!!

"Climate change and sustainable energy supply are crucial challenges for the future of humanity. It is essential that world leaders agree on the emission reductions needed to combat negative consequences of anthropogenic climate change at the UNFCCC negotiations in Copenhagen in December 2009. At the same time, agreement is needed on actions to ensure basic energy services are available to all of the world’s people."

http://www.leopoldina-halle.de/cms/de/pressemitteilungen/einzelansicht-p...

Pink Slip

Here's some more, pinkslip-read it and weep! The greatest hoax of our generation!! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/...

It just keeps getting worse and worse...

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/25/uh-oh-raw-data-in-new-zealand-tell...

Caught with their wang hanging out....LMAO

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Ah yes...this is where Mann tried to cover is rear end and where he throws Jones under the bus by admitting that jones sent this e-mail:

"Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. He's not in at the moment -minor family crisis. Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don't have his new email address. We will be getting Caspar to do likewise."

This alone is a CRIME in the UK.....is this getting through your think skull yet?

Mann's "hockey stick" has allready been debunked as FALSE...he's in full CYA mode as he knows he'll never work in the field again....

Penn state has opened an investigation as well...

In Fact...even an IPCC scientist has asked for Mann,Jones and Rahmstorf to be BOOTED!

http://coast.gkss.de/staff/zorita/myview.html

Why I think that Michael Mann, Phil Jones and Stefan Rahmstorf should be barred from the IPCC process
Eduardo Zorita, November 2009
Short answer: because the scientific assessments in which they may take part are not credible anymore.

A longer answer: My voice is not very important. I belong to the climate-research infantry, publishing a few papers per year, reviewing a few manuscript per year and participating in a few research projects. I do not form part of important committees, nor I pursue a public awareness of my activities. My very minor task in the public arena was to participate as a contributing author in the Fourth Assessment Report of the IPCC.
By writing these lines I will just probably achieve that a few of my future studies will, again, not see the light of publication. My area of research happens to be the climate of the past millennia, where I think I am appreciated by other climate-research 'soldiers'. And it happens that some of my mail exchange with Keith Briffa and Timothy Osborn can be found in the CRU-files made public recently on the internet.

To the question of legality or ethicalness of reading those files I will write a couple of words later.

I may confirm what has been written in other places: research in some areas of climate science has been and is full of machination, conspiracies, and collusion, as any reader can interpret from the CRU-files. They depict a realistic, I would say even harmless, picture of what the real research in the area of the climate of the past millennium has been in the last years. The scientific debate has been in many instances hijacked to advance other agendas.

These words do not mean that I think anthropogenic climate change is a hoax. On the contrary, it is a question which we have to be very well aware of. But I am also aware that in this thick atmosphere -and I am not speaking of greenhouse gases now- editors, reviewers and authors of alternative studies, analysis, interpretations,even based on the same data we have at our disposal, have been bullied and subtly blackmailed. In this atmosphere, Ph D students are often tempted to tweak their data so as to fit the 'politically correct picture'. Some, or many issues, about climate change are still not well known. Policy makers should be aware of the attempts to hide these uncertainties under a unified picture. I had the 'pleasure' to experience all this in my area of research.

I thank explicitely Keith Briffa and Tim Osborn for their work in the formulation of one Chapter of the IPCC report. As it destills from these emails, they withstood the evident pressure of other IPCC authors, not experts in this area of research, to convey a distorted picture of our knowledge of the hockey-stick graph.

Is legal or ethical to read the CRU files? I am not a layer. It seems that if the files had been hacked this would constitute an illegal act. If they have been leaked it could be a whistle blower action protected by law. I think it is not unethical to read them. Once published, I feel myself entitled to read how some researchers tried to influence reviewers to scupper the publication of our work on the 'hockey stick graph' or to read how some IPCC authors tried to exclude this work from the IPCC Report on very dubious reasons. Also, these mails do not contain any personal information at all. They are an account of many dull daily activities of typical climatologists, together with a realistic account of very troubling professional behavior.

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Ask not for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for thee...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

The hockey stick graph was not "debunked" (at least not by scientists--maybe by Glenn Beck)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11646-climate-myths-the-hockey-sti...

Pink Slip

The biggest producer of CO2 is mammals.

That being said I think we should take a stand and begin killing dolphins and whales in the name of global warming.

MikeyA

We mammals do not add CO2 to the atmosphere. That CO2 is part of a closed-loop system.

http://www.slate.com/id/2225286/

Pink Slip

Here is a timely piece...
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/11/tuvalu-climate-refugees

Then again, I'm sure they are making it up that the ocean is taking their homes...

LMAO...oh and where do they get their data proving the islands will sink?

"The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has warned that low-lying island nations are particularly endang­ered by rising seas and will also be buffeted by more frequent and more violent storms."

Timely indeed seeing as the entire premis for Anthropomorphic Global Warming is based on lies,omissions, and falsified data.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Want to cut down on CO2? Have all liberals stop exhaling.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

If you like CO2 so much, why put yourself in a room with 3-4% CO2? Better yet, I'd recommend 5%...that should do it.

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