An Interesting Story Missed by Glass City Jungle

"A former UT dean has threatened Glass City Jungle operator and Toledo Free Press fact checker Lisa Renee Ward with legal action and is accusing her of racial bias," read the words from this weeks Toledo Free Press.

http://www.Toledofreepress.com/2009/11/25/former-ut-dean-threatens-legal...

I find it very interesting that the Blade is castigated for not reporting "the news" and Lisa Renee has not reported this "newsworthy" story on her blog Glass City Jungle. Sort of like the pot calling the kettle black. Or the pot not calling the kettle anything, just ignoring it.

I personally have felt the sting of what I felt was a racial bias on the part of the esteemed and award winning blogger. My history with this bias terminated with my decision to not post on Glass City Jungle because of what I perceived as Ms. Ward having different strokes for different folks.

I believe also that the web blog "is related to libels and slander, racial biases, or at the very least very partial."

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he has is that when you search for his name, Lisa's post is #1. The post itself is very short, and not much is said but directing people to other articles. His claim is baseless.

http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=3346

He will cause more problems by doing this than by ignoring it or working to get some of his own work up on the Internet. The reason a blog post is showing up above his work is he does not have much things out there on the Internet. He can change it if he wants.

Sometimes when you are involved in things out of your control, you don't want to mention it. It has happened to me, I would not hold that against her. It is hard when things out of your control determining what to do thus you may not mention it, because you are unsure if re-mentioning it will cause more trouble.

may be baseless (I don't know), I too have felt the sting of what I perceived to be "racial bias or at the very least" partiality on the part of LR Ward and Glass City Jungle.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, pretty good chances that it is a duck. :)

Perhaps the reason why she did not post about this story is because of the threat of legal action by former UT dean Yueh-Ting Lee, purnhrt. BTW - your claim of racial bias by Lisa Renee ignores the fact that she is married to a person of color. It's pretty hard to make the charge of "racist" stick, unless you want to argue that she is racist against some minorities but not others.

Also: aren't you carrying a grudge for a long time here? It seems like you want to stay made at Lisa Renee for an incident that happened what, two years ago? Far be it from me to tell you how to live your life, but walking around with that much bile against Lisa Renee is probably not healthy.

Also, in the name of freedom of speech and Google page ranks, I think we should all make it a point to reference the blog post featuring former UT dean Yueh-Ting Lee. It is not Lisa Renee's fault that so many websites and search engines recognize her blog as a source of information about former UT dean Yueh-Ting Lee.

Good Luck Mr. Lee. You're gonna need it.

His lack of knowledge on legal matters is prevalent in his wording. A case of slander this is not unless he can prove Mrs Ward said anything about him.

For a case of libel he must prove malice and damage. A negative impact on his potential career would be hard to prove and even harder to put into "damage".

For malice he must prove that Mrs. Ward was specifically out to get him. Given the little wording, her lack of comments after the original post, and the links to the news stories I doubt any court would find in his favor. Especially since on other news posts Mrs. Ward tends to give more verbage in her own words.

And finally Mrs. Ward could have a very reasonable counterclaim of slander because of the quotes in the TFP article. Mr. Lee is accusing her of racial bias, this could be both damaging and malicious, but then he follows up with the quote ..."The media which White people control...". This statement shows more into the racial bias of Mr. Lee than anything Mrs. Ward ever wrote.

Even purnhrt was more careful in her wording to not be libelous than Mr. Lee did. Mrs. Ward is very smart not to comment on the lawsuit and to rely on her blog's standards and practices.

MikeyA

wouldn't you know who would come to Lisa Renee's defense. The latest incident, which involved you, took place in 2009, the one before that took place Nov 4, 2008, so no it wasn't, what, two years ago?

I have no bile against Lisa Renee, just pointing out how I can relate to the subject of the article.

The main purpose of the post was to compare/contrast how the Blade and GCJ report "news" He who controls the ink/blog controls the content.

I certainly don't intend to get into a Fissing Match with you about Lisa Renee, thank you.

Is she actually reporting news in this case?

I would say she isn't because she just links to other articles. In my opinion she's distributing news.

MikeyA

my wording was not intended to be libelous nor non-libelous, just reporting what I read.

I think we all lack legal knowledge, (not just Eric Yuch-Ting Lee) that is why there are attorneys to sort it all out.

"just reporting what I read"

Well you did give commentary so by definition that's not reporting. Also, couldn't someone make the same argument that "reporting what I read" is what Lisa did?

As far as Mr. Lee's comments if he intends to pursue legal action he should get used to the phrases "no comment" or "I would refer you to my attourney" because his comments, I believe, have already hurt his legal standing.

MikeyA

Interesting...

Being a participant on GCJ from time to time, and usually DISagreeing with the views of the blogess, I do find it hard to believe that she is showing racial bias...political bias on occassion...yep...racial bias no way!

She is one of my favorite people to disagree with and I have never seen her act with malace. I think she does a great job of stating the 'rules' on her page and has never maintained that her page is anything other than a medium to distribute information (usually with commentary supplied by posters) and a provider of entertainment..

Is this really 'news'??

mj

to timer, you were not around during the "racial bias" timeframe that I have referred to concerning myself.

If you are interested you can contact me and I can point you to threads (unless they have been removed) where "racial bias" or at the very least being partial to certain posters was displayed.

just because you are married to a person of color (whatever that means) does not absolve you from having a "racial bias" or partiality.

Just becuase you ARE a person of color does not absolve YOU of racial bias either.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

I don't respond to people who I've learned it's not possible to have a reasonable discussion with, that I have banned from my blogsite for violation of the rules necessary for civil behavior a year ago. Who additionally, write things to me like:

You are a normal passive-aggressive white woman who can not relate to a black woman unless she is subordinate to you. I meet you everyday when I go to the grocery store. And you can not relate to a black man because of the long held notion that black men are inferior, I saw that aspect of your spirit during the screenings that we did last year. It was quite clear where your prejudices lie.

There was only one person who demonstrated a clear bias towards or against candidates, it was not me. I supported Richard Brown as my top candidate. I still support him as a friend and I do not regret my faith in him. I realize it's easier to try to sell the idea that I am racist for some rather than to take personal responsibility for their own actions/behavior.

So, I've heard about and read some of the previous material posted about me by Twila, I have found it interesting that she claims she does not post there by choice when that is not true and that she continues to try to use this site to discredit me.

The simple answer as to why this was not yet posted on Glass City Jungle is nothing nefarious, I traditionally write a summary post of some of the articles in the weekly edition of the TFP on Sunday or Monday. Since I'm not quite that ego driven and it was not time sensitive, I did not feel it deserved a post of it's own on my site but was appropriate to include in the summary.

I had no desire to harm Dr. Lee, it was a valid media story, I really have no interest in some type of a web battle with Twila, that serves no purpose, I have better things to do with my time that are more productive. So, she can continue to do this for as long as Chris allows and those interested in a few of the actual facts as to the background, can decide for themselves.

We don't remember days only moments...

And Lisa has vindicated what I've said all along with this statement:

"she claims she does not post there by choice when that is not true"

MikeyA

Why do you lie about your weight? You are a good blogger and it does you no good to lie about something so out of your control. Keep up the good work and keep us all informed.

your comment: "I don’t respond to people who I’ve learned it’s not possible to have a reasonable discussion with, that I have banned from my blogsite for violation of the rules for civil behavior a year ago."

As the congressman Joe Wilson from SC stated "YOU LIE."

You NEVER banned me from Glass City Jungle, you kept deleting my post on the night that President Elect Barack Obama won the election. You were qissed because he won and took it out on me one of his avid supporters. Then you made your rules of "civil behavior" which you use at your discretion to chastise those you may not agree with. I stopped posting on Glass City Jungle for that reason. Actually that was the last straw. I stopped posting because I wanted to.

I would be more than glad to entertain the notion that you BANNED me if you supply me with the evidence.

Post the entire set of emails that transpired between the two of us and why I decided not to post on your blogsite. Don’t just pick stuff that you can use to paint a picture of me as being a racist.

Your post here today is off the subject. If someone were to get off subject on your site you would bring out your stick and beat them with it. :)

The reason I posted this is because the Blade is always getting castigated for what it prints and fails to print, then you turn around and do the same thing. You can’t have it both ways, either be truthful or ........

While this post has nothing to do with who you supported for school board, it does show the side of you that only feeds into your egomania. I was not referring to Richard Brown, as he was not the only black male candidate. He was the one that you supported. It was a SCREENING, not a popularity contest. If you could not have been impartial, you should have abstained from voting.

I believe in truth above all else and as Bulldog Rust always says the "full pursuit of the truth."

So MikeyMikey you have not been vindicated at all.

Just because you don't think I've been vindicated doesn't mean I haven't.

I have the person who runs the site saying you are BANNED. A majority of people on here would agree with me that you are BANNED.

And as much as you try to do the "I am just helping the Bland" arguement we all know you were baiting Lisa Renee.

Purnhrt, stick to whatever it is you do as your day job because you're a horrible fisherman.

MikeyA

You wouldnt know the truth if someone tied it to a brick and threw it through your window for not mowing your grass....

Punhurts...the perfect victim....hunting that piece of the money pie...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

all you wise men. :)

Produce the entire collection of emails and then show where it says "you have been banned." "YOU LIE"

How do we prove a negative?...that is illogical...

The logical solution for you to prove you are not banned is to merely make a post over there....

Should take about what..a minute...

Then drop us a link...

see?

Pretty easy ..no?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Don't you see how she stacked the deck?

She's trying to get Lisa Renee to argue with her. Now she's asking us for proof.

To her the only way to "prove" is to get an email that only Lisa Renee would have.

She's now fishing but using us as the bait.

MikeyA

No way...the easiest way to prove she isnt banned is to simply make a post...

In the absence of that simple proof...the only logical answer left is:

Punhurts is just another plain old LIAR.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

The proof that you are banned was the site's owner on here stating THAT YOU'RE BANNED!

Do you need it in Monty Python form?

You are banned. Prohibited. Ceased to be allowed. Barred. Outlawed. Prevented. Excluded. Regardless what you say the bird is dead.

MikeyA

Purnhrt, Lisa Renee is a lot of things but she is not a racist, nor does she discriminate. You, judging by your 'contributions' to any blog I've ever read, hate anything and everything that is even remotely associated with the Caucasian race. Moreover you have demonstrated time and again that you harbor an irrational, neurotic kind of hate that is found as a cornerstone of the very hate groups you say that you despise the most.

You are thoroughly pitiable and I pray that somehow you will find peace.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

:)

:) Why are you two defenders getting into such a state? Are you paid operatives? lol Why don't you myob like the Historian has done? These are rhetorical questions, no need to answer.

This historian said his piece and moved on. He has a dissertation to defend this week and has no time for flame wars, that's all. Besides, purnhrt needs no help sticking her foot in her virtual mouth.

you said your piece and still haven't moved on even with a "dissertation" to defend. So stop commenting already.......lol

Are you implying that dissertations aren't real?

MikeyA

Prove you are not banned by making a simple post...

C'mon...show us....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

nm

MikeyA

if I posted? All the Owner would do is delete my post. And then how would you know that I posted? Are you that close to the owner that she would share that information with you. I have not been banned, I stopped posting on my own and you can't change that fact.

Ask the owner to show you when I was banned and how was I notified. Tell her to show you the emails. Stop wasting your time.

The truth will out....

You can easily prove you arent banned...

Make a post and take a screen shot....sheesh...no one can delete a screen shot off your computer...

You are simply tap dancing after being caught in a lie...

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“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

you have no idea what I despise or even if I despise anything..

If your posts are deleted what does that mean?

If I cannot make a lasting contribution to a site because the owner won't allow it..... whatever does that mean?

Don't we have a word for that?

Oh yeah. Banned.

MikeyA

Let ........me........do........this.........real........slow.........The definition......... for........ Banned .........is........to prohibit.........The definition......... for ........delete ......... is........ to .........erase.

Again......I was not banned from using the blogsite, my post was deleted.

I have the emails as does she so I am trying to give LRW of GCJ the chance to come clean and be honest with her fans such as yourself.......

All you have to do to prove yourself is make a post over there and take a screen grab...

The fact that you wont it very telling...

Your outright resistance to an easy and logical solution leads us to doubt your word punhurt.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Your argument is worse than dumb it's blatantly ignorant. You sound like most of the kids who attend TPS schools.

You never took into account that she might not be able to keep anyone from posting. Thus her only way to ban someone is to delete their posts. Something you won't even attempt to prove you're not banned.

This sentence "I have the emails as does she so I am trying to give LRW of GCJ the chance to come clean and be honest with her fans such as yourself......." shows your ignorance.

Oh so you're not a bad guy. You were clearly trying to help Mrs. Ward with your post. You're such a samaritan. Have all the nobel prizes already been given out this year? What's the second step to sainthood?

We all know you were clearly fishing.

MikeyA

You .....................still..........................don't.................get.............it. ......ONE .........post........ was......... deleted, .......not........multiple.............posts. The.......post ..........LR..........deleted.........stated ......something.......like........."Barack Obama won and I am still here." A very innocuous post but obviously enough to anger GCJ's owner Lisa Renee..

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