Kaptur's stance a "punch in the throat" to women

The health care reform bill is being debated in the House right now, and Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) is holding the bill hostage with her support of the Stupak amendment. The Stupak amendment would restrict women's rights regarding abortion.

Studies have shown that in countries where abortion is restricted, the number of abortions does not decrease. But more women die, due to the use of unsafe practices. Apparently, this is what Miss Kaptur supports: more dead women. (more info)

No votes yet

Has she commented about this yet?

That's the reason we need tea parties and town halls. It isn't about going to one to specifically raise hell with a certain political persuasion. It's about citizens getting together and raising hell with a politican(s) who think they don't have to listen to ANY of us.

Kaptur is voting for the bill. And why are we paying for abortions anyway ? I thought Obama wants to make them rare .

You Betcha'

Eh?...since when are democrats against killing babies?

Dont worry pink...I'm sure this is merely a trick to get votes for the bill and as soon as it passes the payments for baby killing will resume...

You'll be able to sleep well again knowing the babies are being killed ...

I mean it's not like you could just give your own money to baby killers...you need to give them our money too...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

"I'm sure this is merely a trick to get votes"

More conspiracy theories? Haha...keep barking at the moon wingnut.

Pink Slip

Hrm...from the top:

If Abortion was "never in the bill" as Obama claimed....why are you so peeved now?

Oh...because that was a lie too...

Just like the paying for health care for illegals "wasnt in the bill"...until a republican amendment passes...then La raza freaks out....

Everything democrats do is kabuki theater...

They will just get a liberal judge who thinks like you do to force us all to pay to kill babies...

So yeah...it was all a BS lie...abortion payments were ALLWAYS in the bill.....and no due to the Stupak amendment...they now arent...and so NOW you pissandmoan...

Proving you were a lair all along...

Liberal allways out themselves sooner or later...

Why isnt it a punch to thw womb rather than a puch to the throat?

Does this mean marcy isnt a woman anymore? does she lose her card?

Does this also imply that ALL woman support baby killing?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Maybe you should try reading what's in the bill. Then you wouldn't be so confused. Try educating yourself. Put down the comic books & toy soldiers.

Pink Slip

If abortion payments where never in the bill...why complian about a meaningless amendment that cuts off funds for abortions...that where never in the bill in the first place?

Hmmm?

The mere existance of this thread is proof that funds for abortions where in fact in the original bill...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

It prevents privately-run plans in the exchange from covering abortions. But no government funds would have been used to pay for them anyway. So it's overly restrictive.

Pink Slip

Once again...wrong answer:

Private plans inside the exchange would still be able to sell policies that cover abortion to anyone who isn't getting a tax credit.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Lookie here pink:

Senior Democrat is 'confident' that Stupak amendment will be stripped

By Michael O'Brien - 11/09/09 11:50 AM ET
A House Democratic leader said Monday she's “confident” controversial language on abortion will be stripped from a final healthcare bill.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the Democrats’ chief deputy whip in the House, said that she and other pro-abortion rights lawmakers would work to strip the amendment included in the House health bill that bars federal funding from subsidizing abortions.

“I am confident that when it comes back from the conference committee that that language won't be there,” Wasserman Schultz said during an appearance on MSNBC. “And I think we're all going to be working very hard, particularly the pro-choice members, to make sure that's the case.”

The amendment, offered by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), won the support of Republicans and dozens of centrist Democrats in the House, but revealed a deep divide in the Democratic caucus over abortion.

Sixty-four Democrats voted for Stupak’s amendment, without which the House healthcare bill would not have won final passage in a 220-215 vote.

Stupak’s language not only prohibits abortion coverage in the public insurance option included in the House bill. It would also prevent private plans from offering coverage for abortion services if they accept people who are receiving government subsidies.

Allowing the vote represented a major concession by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to Stupak and other anti-abortion rights Democrats who had threatened to oppose the bill. But it came at the cost of angering liberals in the Democratic Caucus.

Abortion-rights supporters called it a “de facto” abortion ban and mounted an intense but unsuccessful lobbying campaign against it.

The conference between the House and Senate bills after the upper chamber passes its bill will present an opportunity to strip the Stupak amendment, and liberal Democrats have vowed to work hard to get rid of that language during that stage of the legislation.

“It was extremely painful for me to feel compelled to vote for a bill that contained that kind of restriction on a woman's ability to make her own reproductive choices,” Wasserman Schultz said.

Republicans over the weekend signaled they’d seek similar language in the Senate bill, while several centrist Democrats are already wavering on the bill.

It’s not clear how the abortion debate could impact a final vote in the House on the healthcare bill, but it could be difficult for many of the centrists who supported Stupak’s amendment to vote for a healthcare bill that did not include his language.

In addition, the only Republican who voted for the legislation, Rep. Joseph Cao (La.), said the Stupak amendment cleared the way for him to support the legislation.

But it’s also possible liberals could drop their support for the bill if the language is not changed.
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Told you...I used to be a liberal...I know how you peeps roll....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

"used to be a liberal"? You're a wingnut through and through....Considering the country has been pushed far to the right in the last 30 years, you are either weak of mind or you were never liberal at all. I'm willing to accept either answer.

That being said, I'm glad they're talking about stripping this amendment out. But what MIGHT happen doesn't change anything about what did, so my post is still accurate.

Pink Slip

My how gracious of you to determine what I am...

Typical liberal blow-off.....you simply cannot accept someone who once thought like you do, could evolve....

Heard the same twisted logic to explain ex-gays..."oh they were never gay in the first place"....

Where you are is a state of mind....you may yet grow past adolesence...but I doubt it...

I'm also glad you finally admit that the amendment does what the bill does not....ban federal tax payer funds for abortion...

It's quite clear that the amount of squealing is in direct proportion to the amount of truth...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

"My how gracious of you to determine what I am...":

You're welcome

Pink Slip

As I said:

Typical liberal blow-off....

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

You'd have to ask LibsCanBlowMe about that.

Pink Slip

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