Muslim Suspect arrested in Arkansas recruiting center shooting...(real terrorism)

Suspect arrested in Arkansas recruiting center shooting
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NEW: Investigators suspect "political and religious motives"

Man, 24, charged with murder, 15 counts of engaging in a terrorist act

Police: Man in black SUV drove by and fired on soldiers standing outside

Three weapons found in man's SUV, police say

(CNN) -- An Arkansas man was arrested Monday in connection with a shooting at a Little Rock military recruiting center that killed one soldier and wounded another, authorities said.

Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad -- a 24-year-old Little Rock resident formerly known as Carlos Bledsoe -- faces a first-degree murder charge and 15 counts of engaging in a terrorist act, Little Rock Police Chief Stuart Thomas said. The terrorist counts stem from the shots fired at an occupied building.

While authorities continued to investigate a motive, Thomas said Muhammad is a Muslim convert and, based on preliminary interviews with him, investigators believe there were "political and religious motives" in the shooting.

Military officials initially believed the shooting was a random act, but Thomas said police believe the shooter acted alone "with the specific purpose of targeting military personnel."

More:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/01/arkansas.recruiter.shooting/

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Arkansas, eh? Good thing Bush/Cheney aren't in power anymore---or else they'd be invading Mississippi over this.

Pink Slip

Spoken like a good little dhimmi.

Hell..these guys handnt even killed any babies.......

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

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MikeyA

I don't know enough about this guy to determine what wing he plays, MikeyA.

But it's sickening that some (like Z) seem to think some forms of terrorism & murder are justifiable.

Pink Slip

You mean like killing babies in the womb?

Ripping them limb from limb?

Partal birth abortions?

Sorry...I wont shed a tear for tiller the baby killer...he got what he gave...

What is sickening is seeing liberals pretend abortion isnt murder.....

While at the same time they get all hot and bothered about giving a terrorist a swirly to save American lives...

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

Abortion IS NOT murder--that's the stance of religious zealots. No one wishes for it, but it not a decision for others to make. Get it through your thick skull. What Tiller had done was LEGAL. When punks like YOU zeitgeist use rhetoric like this, YOU incite the weak-of-mind to commit MURDER. And apparently you condone it. You've previously admitted to approving of illegal torture by our beloved leaders, and now you condone murder. You're a sick individual and you need help. I'm not a religious man, so I'm not going to pray for you. But I will keep you in my thoughts, that you may someday recover from your mental illness, and/or start thinking things through a little more clearly.

Pink Slip

A woman can abort an entity with a beating heart and some claim it's not murder, but if someone shoots and kills a pregnant woman, he can be tried for the murder of TWO people.

Apples & oranges---we talking about a medical procedure that is LEGAL, vs a crime that is obviously ILLEGAL. I appreciate the philosophical dilemma--it is thought provoking. But we are discussing a woman's right to do what she pleases with her body.

Pink Slip

LMAO...you cant even type the word baby and abortion in the same paragragh much less acknowledge the fact that it's a baby...

You like to pretend it's just a toenail....

Who's being "less than honest"?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

What if it were the same woman??

She's on the way to have a medical procedure, but on the way someone pulls a carjacking and shoots and kills her?

At the end of the day she had planned, no baby and it's all legal. at the end of the day the bad guy pulled, no baby and it's murder...

Billy, I fully acknowledge the possible inconsistencies in the law--and this is probably due to trying to legally define something that is philosophical in nature. The only thing I can say to this, is that intent does matter. It matters in our laws, and it matters in moral issues as well.

Pink Slip

the woman fully intends to end the baby's life and it's legal, but a criminal who doesnt even know she's pregnant is a murderer.

Im thinking we agree in point - I disagree with abortion, but you (not wanting to put words in your mouth) might believe that the hypothetical criminal shouldnt be tried for that second murder?

Yeah, it's probably fair to say that. Although, I'm not too concerned over the shooter scenario, since his intent was to at least muder the woman.

Pink Slip

Look you little felcher.....

The killing of a fetus is murder of an innocent....you dont have to be a zealot to understand this...you just have to be honest...

Now that fact that you are ok with it is fine by me...but dont pretend it is just like cutting off a toe nail....

The only difference between killing a baby...and killing a baby in the womb...is the womb....both acts are the same....

You can use caps all day long...your point is still and illogical and inane....

I'm simply calling it what it is....infanticide...

You can call it justifiable....but it's still infanticide...

You claim I approve of "torture" when in fact waterbaording isnt torture and wasnt illegal when it was done to three terrorists...

But in your insane world view...this works and serves as logical thought...

Killing a baby isnt murder...and harsh interogations of known terrorists = torture

It's whacked....it's polluted thought...

Is enough to make Spock bitch slap you...

It's the main reason I'm no longer a liberal....I couldnt fake being insane anymore...I couldnt stand being around crazy idiots anymore... I became conservative.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

It's the main reason I'm no longer a liberal....I couldnt fake being insane anymore...I couldnt stand being around crazy idiots anymore... I became conservative.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.

One day you're this person with a certain set of political philosophies and concepts, which you as an obviously intelligent person must have spent considerable time and thought reflecting upon, and then you looked around at the 'crazy idiots' who evidently shared the same mindset you did, and all of a sudden everything you and the 'crazy idiots' around you believed in constituted a 'mental disorder'?

Interesting, and enlightening, philisophical road trip.

I can boil it down further if you wish...

I was a product of public education.....as I grew up and started having to live by reality instead of my view of reality....I found out how truely ignorant I was...it was really quite embarassing....

I was faced with the choice of continuing to live by self applied standards based on myths...or admitting I was wrong and seeking to grow out of it...

That's a hard hurdle to jump for most people...they would rather plod along in comfort rather than face the change of thier entire ethos....

I was rabidly pro-choice...until I helped deliver my own children...

I hated reagan....until in hindsight I could appreciate his accomplishments...

I believed in Gun control....until I was a victim of a brutal racially motivated attack by multiple people...

I thought taxing the rich to death was a great idea...until I wanted to be rich and had to pay taxes...

Hell I could go on and on (and usually do)...

But it does really come down to this...

A neo-con is a liberal who has been mugged by reality....

If you are 20 and not a liberal...you have no heart...

If you are 40 and not a conservative...you have no brain...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

What is sickening also is some simpleton making asinine comparisons between people who are against killing unborn children and the taliban. Looks like we have the real thing here now. And with real terrorists running loose, similar bumpkins will be calling for the disarming of the American people ASAP. Well, pfooey on them!!

Got it!

Muslim Killer = Terrorist
Christain Killer = Hero

You're all a bunch of nut jobs.

Christain Killer = Hero

ive been looking for where anyone said or insinuated that. Can you show me? It might be out there, I just cant find it.

I haven't seen anyone denounce this either. You've made it all about Tiller.

Didn't look very hard did you. Remind me to send you a "Google how-to", it was written 5 years ago, but it will get you started on how to use the tubes of the internets.

BTW -http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GFRE_enUS327US327&q=%22Scott+Roeder%22+hero&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

No...What you are doing is called "projection"....

Tiller's murderer is no "hero"...he's a murderer just like Jeffery dalmer...he deserves what ever happens to him as well...

But I wont shed a tear for tiller....he got what he gave..

You dont have a clue how conservatives think...that would require logic and sanity...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

"You've made it all about Tiller."

I have? Again, please copy/paste that.

"You" as in right wing Christain nut job, not "you" as in Billy Bonehead.

no sense in calling names - what if I started making generalizations about barflys?

Both are terrorism in my book. I didn't comment in the other thread because I didn't think I NEEDED to condemn it.

I don't like what Tiller did and while I'm not against all abortion I do think late term abortion is murder. However, that doesn't justify him being killed. Both actions are equally disgusting. The Catholic Church, my church, doesn't condone killing abortion doctors either. At it's core it is a peaceful religion. I can't say that about the current state of Islam.

However, the DOJ report was brought up in the other thread (again notice how I stayed out of the argument). This is a clear indicator that right-wing terrorism isn't as widespread as the report indicated. Because here is a prime example of a RW terrorist going after one individual and a Muslim terrorist going after a group of individuals.

Giving this guy and the group they recently caught in NY leads me to believe that muslim terrorism is the bigger problem and disavows the DOJ report.

MikeyA

Well at least Obama quickly condemed the Murder of a US soldier and dispatched US marshals to protect recruiting stations...

Oh wait....no that was tiller and abortion clinics...my bad...

Nevermind...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

i don't like what Tiller did and while I'm not against all abortion I do think late term abortion is murder. However, that doesn't justify him being killed. Both actions are equally disgusting.

Well said!

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