Toledo police layoffs leading to gun buying

Toledo police layoffs leading to gun buying:

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=10415019

Natural response to the situation. I'd be curious to see if people are making doubly sure that their smoke detectors are operable, that they have fire extinguishers in place, and a well stocked first aid kit...

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Putting guns into the hands of those who are not trained law enforcement personnel will lead to a lot more crimes. People who are careless in the handling or storage of guns will lead to accidental shootings and break ins that will put more illegal guns in the streets. Think about this before you encourage others to run out and purchase weapons.

Please site where Im encouraging this?

Im just saying it's a natural response - nobody's PUTTING guns into anyone's hands - theyre a legal commodity on the market.

More hyperbole....

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

How many YEARS did the blade present dire predictions about concealed carry and turning Toledo into the "wild west"?

Yet it didnt happen...

You statement also runs counter to well established research...were there are MORE legally owned weapons..there is LESS crime...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Guns,_Less_Crime

In fact...Many gun control laws in the united states are racist in nature and first passed in the old south to keep blacks from defending themselves from the Klan.

http://www.lizmichael.com/racistro.htm

People have a right to defend themselves from the criminal element....

When seconds count...police are only minutes away...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

From Zeitgeist: Many gun control laws in the united states are racist in nature and first passed in the old south to keep blacks from defending themselves from the Klan.

That ought to be required reading for all anti-gun liberals until it replaces their for the children slogans.

I'm likely preaching to the choir here, but I'd like to know exactly what some of you would do if you woke up at three in the morning to a large cross quietly burning in your front yard.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

There just hasn't been an instance where I've encouraged anyone to buy a weapon, where I don't also encourage them equally to become proficient with it.

If your nation-state felt the same way, weapon training would be mandatory for those acquiring guns, much like training and testing are mandatory with vehicle operation. But your nation-state doesn't WANT people to have weapons in the first place, hence they just let the situation go in order to create anti-gun sentiment in demented Liberals like yourself.

Worked, didn't it? (LOL) You're such a pawn, Sarge.

Kind of funny Harley - when you post on this subject on the site you got tossed off of for being a troll, they pointed out that you're kind of bi-polar on the subject:

Harley said : "All we need is ore guns getting ou into the streets. Isn't there enough killing already?"

Harley's profile says : "I support the right to keep and bear arms. Every citizen has the right to protect himself and his/her home and loved ones."

posted by jr on May 26, 2009 at 02:54:54 pm #

How many YEARS did the blade present dire predictions about concealed carry and turning Toledo into the "wild west"?

Very true! We didn't turn into the Wild West when conceal carry became law.

You know what also didn't happen? Crime didn't suddenly plummet because the criminals were too scared to commit crimes because they’re too scared about people having guns.

Both sides push the dumbest shit over this topic.

Do I support the second amendment and concealed carry? Yes… So I think it leads to a safer community with less crime? No…

Putting more forks into the publics hands will lead to more obesity!

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

LOL

Post of the Day!! LOL

MikeyA

That's a good one.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

"Putting guns into the hands of those who are not trained law enforcement personnel will lead to a lot more crimes. People who are careless in the handling or storage of guns will lead to accidental shootings and break ins that will put more illegal guns in the streets. Think about this before you encourage others to run out and purchase weapons."

--Sarge

Translation:

This is "cop talk" meaning that, "We don't want armed civilians protecting themselves.

We want to be the only ones armed and watching over and controlling a passive, unarmed citizenry."

That about right Sarge?

Hooda Thunkit

Trained law enforcement personnel shoot more innocent people than armed citizens...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

with Hooda Thunkit and Zeitgeist. The police don't want the mere civilians to 'take the law into your own hands'. It's both better and much safer for the civilians to be beaten, raped, robbed and shot dead instead of defending yourself and your family. It's a safety issue for our own safety... see?

But if it's all the same to you, I'll just go ahead and keep my own council anyway. You'll find me clinging to my guns and my religion.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

...in a couple of years. Both my younger brothers have small armories. Perhaps if citizens had had weapons on Allendale the crime would have been dealt with much quicker (although the little kids probably would have been riddled with bullets). Sometimes access to weapons don't do a damn thing. I wish the neighbors had called police when they talked to the guy, and he was saying wacky stuff. But then I let things slide from the nut who lives across the street. He is paranoid, and is saying people are always watching him. When you do nutty stuff you're going to be watched. Example: standing in front of your house, and yelling at your front door at 2 AM (he lives alone).

Old South End Broadway

What do you expect? They've got my TV set wired and I've found three hidden cameras so far; one in the silverware, one in the brandy bottle and a third one was in the toilet tank. I think that one belonged to the I.R.S.

What is more, I haven't complained once about your pot farm or you and your old lady making whoopee on the roof or your dog screwing up the football pool, or you barking at the moon. My cameras are my own business! And if you don't get rid of that Russian flag in your garage they are going to hear about it.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

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